Given the fact of draft position and the number of draft picks sacrificed CM better win the starting job.
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Wouldn't it be better if he was everything TT hoped he was, played very, very well; AND was beaten out for the starting job by someone else?Originally posted by rbalohaGiven the fact of draft position and the number of draft picks sacrificed CM better win the starting job.
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Thats what she said.Originally posted by KYPackOriginally posted by Deputy Nutzseven inchesOriginally posted by MJZiggyWell you know what I want...
How many people knew that was coming?Originally posted by 3irty1This is museum quality stupidity.
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When I first saw the parenthetical command to show hands please about seven inches, I feared I was about to learn much more about some of you than I want to know.Originally posted by KYPack(Show of hands please)Originally posted by Deputy Nutzseven inchesOriginally posted by MJZiggyWell you know what I want...
How many people knew that shit was coming?
Thanks for a rhetorical question KY.
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Does not make sense. If CM is all that CM starts and makes plays. Not starting is not a good thing. CM was drafted to start. Lets see it.Originally posted by PatlerWouldn't it be better if he was everything TT hoped he was, played very, very well; AND was beaten out for the starting job by someone else?Originally posted by rbalohaGiven the fact of draft position and the number of draft picks sacrificed CM better win the starting job.

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So if Jeremy Thompson turns out to be the next Shawn Merriman, you start Matthews ahead of him because he's a 1st round draft pick? Put the best team on the field regardless where guys were drafted. Besides, the 3-4 gives you all kinds of options, which means a guy can have an impact without being a starter.I can't run no more
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While the killers in high places
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Originally posted by rbalohaDoes not make sense. If CM is all that CM starts and makes plays. Not starting is not a good thing. CM was drafted to start. Lets see it.Originally posted by PatlerWouldn't it be better if he was everything TT hoped he was, played very, very well; AND was beaten out for the starting job by someone else?Originally posted by rbalohaGiven the fact of draft position and the number of draft picks sacrificed CM better win the starting job.

He's a rookie on a team that's got three guys who've been starting together for a number of seasons and another ex-DE who isn't going anywhere. Of course I hope he's better than Poppinga. But I doubt that he is right now. This isn't madden football where you pick a guy out of college and just dump him onto your pro roster and his numbers increase. He's got a mountain of stuff to learn right now and chances are his body is going to need time to acclimate to NFL practices, much less games. I haven't heard if he's at the weight the team wants him at either and if he's going to be able to maintain that weight into the season or not is a question only time will answer.
If you want to shatter his confidence and put him in a position to get injured his first year because he's pushing a body that isn't ready for the difference between college ball and the NFL, then go ahead and keep on hoping he's playing every down because he was 1st round pick. Still not sure what difference that makes, but I guess it's an important label to some people.
I would rather the team does what's best for the team and the long term career of the player, not what is expected out of people who think a 1st round player is somehow more important or valuable than a 5th round player based solely on that designation."You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial
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Ay God, Skin. You do make some good football posts from time to time. I agree 100%. I know TT thinks this kid is the Lord's prayer, but I dunno. The pics I saw of him in OTA's, he looked a trifle scrawny. He really hasn't played a lot of football. I'd think his learning curve is pretty long. For a team that needs impact player on D, we seem to have any number of projects floating around.
I hope like hell they all work out, but not every transition/developmental player is gonna work out.
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I wouldn't call him transitional or developmental. Clay Matthews was one of the FEW 3-4 prospects on his level of talent that actually PLAYED the position that he'll be playing in the NFL.Originally posted by KYPacknot every transition/developmental player is gonna work out.
As far as NFL-readiness, I don't think he's any more or any less ready for the NFL than almost any other player in that draft. Look at his measureables. He was among the top at his position. Yes, he has lots of room to grow and lots of untapped potential, but I think he's just as NFL ready as any. I'll admit that that part is just my opinion, aside from the factual measureables thing.
You say that TT is hot for him as if it was yet another "Ted Thompson head scratcher" - but he was taken, give or take, where most thought he was going to be taken. It's not like he was Ted's little secret. If we didn't trade up for him, he'd likely would have been gone in the next 5 or so picks. Again, speculation, but it's supported by draft value analysis.
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Yeah, I should add that I have every confidence that this guy can be a great player from what others who know what they're talking about have said about him. I just don't understand the fan's perceived need to press any rookie into a starting role their first year.
Again, I want him to be ready physically and mentally to start when he does indeed start. I don't think that happens in one offseason for more than one player every few years."You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial
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Originally posted by SkinBasketI don't care what round a guy's drafted in. I hope our team is always good enough that we don't have to rely on any rookie to "contribute a shitload." ."
But we're notTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Originally posted by MJZiggyWell you know what I want...
a hot chickie mate ?TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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