FAVRE: Good Vibes Thread

[Zool]

I can understand those backing Favre and wanting him to play purely for the entertainment value it provides. This is the viewpoint Mobb has. This is also the view the article provides, "Favre is still in the top half of QB's, it'll be fun to watch, let him come back." It's hard to argue with that logic and I can't disagree with it.

As a PACKER fan though, I can't understand anyone backing Favre because they want to see him stick it to TT or because they want to see him do well and win a SB. That is in direct conflict of what a Packer fan should want.

Because Thompson ain't the fucking Packers.

As long as he's the GM in GB, he's a Packer. If the Vikings beat the Packers this year with Favre at the helm, will you be happy? This is seriously fucking retarded. Just retire and mean it already.

[Bossman641]

I can understand those backing Favre and wanting him to play purely for the entertainment value it provides. This is the viewpoint Mobb has. This is also the view the article provides, "Favre is still in the top half of QB's, it'll be fun to watch, let him come back." It's hard to argue with that logic and I can't disagree with it.

As a PACKER fan though, I can't understand anyone backing Favre because they want to see him stick it to TT or because they want to see him do well and win a SB. That is in direct conflict of what a Packer fan should want.

Because Thompson ain't the fucking Packers.

As Thompson goes, so go the Packers. There's no way for Favre to get even with Thompson, without it also effecting the team.

[Bossman641]

I can understand those backing Favre and wanting him to play purely for the entertainment value it provides. This is the viewpoint Mobb has. This is also the view the article provides, "Favre is still in the top half of QB's, it'll be fun to watch, let him come back." It's hard to argue with that logic and I can't disagree with it.

As a PACKER fan though, I can't understand anyone backing Favre because they want to see him stick it to TT or because they want to see him do well and win a SB. That is in direct conflict of what a Packer fan should want.

Because Thompson ain't the fucking Packers.

As long as he's the GM in GB, he's a Packer. If the Vikings beat the Packers this year with Favre at the helm, will you be happy? This is seriously fucking retarded. Just retire and mean it already.

Yes, he will. He's already stated he wants the Packers to go 14-2 and lose in the NFC championship game to the Vikings. Or something similar to that.

[Fritz]

I was trying to start a perfectly good feud with PB about Favre's hair, and you guys mess it all up.

But I'm not backing down. I don't care what the spigots say. Favre looks like a moran (thanks, Nutz) with that close-shaven look. He'd look oodles better with a long grey pony tail.

Or maybe a mullet. I'd be willing to compromise that much. I'm a rational person.

[Gunakor]

I can understand those backing Favre and wanting him to play purely for the entertainment value it provides. This is the viewpoint Mobb has. This is also the view the article provides, "Favre is still in the top half of QB's, it'll be fun to watch, let him come back." It's hard to argue with that logic and I can't disagree with it.

As a PACKER fan though, I can't understand anyone backing Favre because they want to see him stick it to TT or because they want to see him do well and win a SB. That is in direct conflict of what a Packer fan should want.

Because Thompson ain't the fucking Packers.

No, but he represents the Packers. There isn't a goddamn thing Brett can do to Thompson that won't affect the rest of the team or it's fans. For all intents and purposes, Thompson sure as hell IS the fucking Packers. At least as far as the Favre saga is concerned.

[Packnut]

Favre

I can understand those backing Favre and wanting him to play purely for the entertainment value it provides. This is the viewpoint Mobb has. This is also the view the article provides, "Favre is still in the top half of QB's, it'll be fun to watch, let him come back." It's hard to argue with that logic and I can't disagree with it.

As a PACKER fan though, I can't understand anyone backing Favre because they want to see him stick it to TT or because they want to see him do well and win a SB. That is in direct conflict of what a Packer fan should want.

This BS of Favre is'nt a Packer anymore so as a Packer fan you have to hate him is INSANE! It's a very childish and in-mature attitude. How do you throw out all the fantastic things Favre did as a Packer and what he meant to this organization just because he wants to continue to play?

Don't get me wrong. The LAST thing I ever thought I'd see in my life is Favre as a Viking. It's almost as bad as Favre playing for the Bears. However, the real truth is the only loyalty that exists in sports is a fan's loyalty to his team. To the players, it's nothing more than a business. It's a job plain and simple. Not one of them gives a flying fuck about what uniform they are wearing.

It should not matter to one Packer fan what Brett Favre does or who he plays for anymore than who ANY other player plays for. As Packer fans, we need to worry about one thing and only one thing- The Green Bay Packers.

[Bossman641]

Re: Favre

I can understand those backing Favre and wanting him to play purely for the entertainment value it provides. This is the viewpoint Mobb has. This is also the view the article provides, "Favre is still in the top half of QB's, it'll be fun to watch, let him come back." It's hard to argue with that logic and I can't disagree with it.

As a PACKER fan though, I can't understand anyone backing Favre because they want to see him stick it to TT or because they want to see him do well and win a SB. That is in direct conflict of what a Packer fan should want.

This BS of Favre is'nt a Packer anymore so as a Packer fan you have to hate him is INSANE! It's a very childish and in-mature attitude. How do you throw out all the fantastic things Favre did as a Packer and what he meant to this organization just because he wants to continue to play?

Don't get me wrong. The LAST thing I ever thought I'd see in my life is Favre as a Viking. It's almost as bad as Favre playing for the Bears. However, the real truth is the only loyalty that exists in sports is a fan's loyalty to his team. To the players, it's nothing more than a business. It's a job plain and simple. Not one of them gives a flying fuck about what uniform they are wearing.

It should not matter to one Packer fan what Brett Favre does or who he plays for anymore than who ANY other player plays for. As Packer fans, we need to worry about one thing and only one thing- The Green Bay Packers.

Look, I agree. You don't have to hate Favre. I guess you can even hope for him to do well although I find that strange, especially those who say they would cheer for Favre against the Packers. I have a hard time considering them Packer fans.

I'm sick of people telling those of us who are tired of Favre and want him to struggle that we are wrong and that he is owed support. If Favre owes the organization and his fans nothing, then we owe him nothing in return.

[Gunakor]

Re: Favre

How do you throw out all the fantastic things Favre did as a Packer and what he meant to this organization just because he wants to continue to play?

If he decided that all he wanted to do was play then I don't think people would be so upset about it. He wants to play, that much is true. But it's not all he wants. It's only part of his desire, his agenda. He'll only play for one team. If any other team called Bus Cook inquiring about his services, they'd be turned down. That doesn't sound to me like someone who just wants to continue to play. So stop with the "But he just wants to play another year" angle, because that's not JUST what he wants. It's not.

Other than that, nobody is throwing out all the fantastic things Favre did as a Packer. We are just putting those memories on the back burner where they belong while Favre is contemplating a return wearing the uniform of the enemy. When he hangs 'em up for good, we'll be able to remember him as a Packer. Can't do that if he looks like a Viking.

I'll be one of his biggest fans on his induction day. Whenever that is.

[Packnut]

Re: Favre

I can understand those backing Favre and wanting him to play purely for the entertainment value it provides. This is the viewpoint Mobb has. This is also the view the article provides, "Favre is still in the top half of QB's, it'll be fun to watch, let him come back." It's hard to argue with that logic and I can't disagree with it.

As a PACKER fan though, I can't understand anyone backing Favre because they want to see him stick it to TT or because they want to see him do well and win a SB. That is in direct conflict of what a Packer fan should want.

This BS of Favre is'nt a Packer anymore so as a Packer fan you have to hate him is INSANE! It's a very childish and in-mature attitude. How do you throw out all the fantastic things Favre did as a Packer and what he meant to this organization just because he wants to continue to play?

Don't get me wrong. The LAST thing I ever thought I'd see in my life is Favre as a Viking. It's almost as bad as Favre playing for the Bears. However, the real truth is the only loyalty that exists in sports is a fan's loyalty to his team. To the players, it's nothing more than a business. It's a job plain and simple. Not one of them gives a flying fuck about what uniform they are wearing.

It should not matter to one Packer fan what Brett Favre does or who he plays for anymore than who ANY other player plays for. As Packer fans, we need to worry about one thing and only one thing- The Green Bay Packers.

Look, I agree. You don't have to hate Favre. I guess you can even hope for him to do well although I find that strange, especially those who say they would cheer for Favre against the Packers. I have a hard time considering them Packer fans.

I'm sick of people telling those of us who are tired of Favre and want him to struggle that we are wrong and that he is owed support. If Favre owes the organization and his fans nothing, then we owe him nothing in return.

I agree we owe him nothing. I also agree no REAL Packer fan would cheer for him if and when he plays against the Packers. Hell, I hope the Vikes go 0-16 no matter who their freakin QB is. The Vikings are pond scum, just like the Bears.

[Packnut]

Re: Favre

How do you throw out all the fantastic things Favre did as a Packer and what he meant to this organization just because he wants to continue to play?

If he decided that all he wanted to do was play then I don't think people would be so upset about it. He wants to play, that much is true. But it's not all he wants. It's only part of his desire, his agenda. He'll only play for one team. If any other team called Bus Cook inquiring about his services, they'd be turned down. That doesn't sound to me like someone who just wants to continue to play. So stop with the "But he just wants to play another year" angle, because that's not JUST what he wants. It's not.

Other than that, nobody is throwing out all the fantastic things Favre did as a Packer. We are just putting those memories on the back burner where they belong while Favre is contemplating a return wearing the uniform of the enemy. When he hangs 'em up for good, we'll be able to remember him as a Packer. Can't do that if he looks like a Viking.

I'll be one of his biggest fans on his induction day. Whenever that is.

No it's not "he wants to play for one more year angle". He wants revenge on Ted Thompson plain and simple. From a competetive standpoint, I respect the hell out of that.

Brett Favre has always been ruled by his emotions. It's part of what made him one of the greatest QB's of all time. He played with his heart and as Packer fans, it's one of the things we loved about him. So now is'nt it hypocritical as Packer fans if we rip him because that same heart and desire that we loved when he wore Green and Gold are behind his motivation to stick it to Teddy?

Yes, as Packer fans hope that he fails if he is the Minny QB. My problem is with the ignorant SOB's in this forum who continue to take their childish shots at him as a person. The one's who really believe he sits at the computer all day and reads everything that's written about him. Or watches ESPN and NFL network craving to hear anything said about him. My problem is with these morons who rip Favre for his play after being injured and diminish what the injury did to his ability to play QB. To them it's a non-factor and meant nothing. That is total BS.

Brett Favre was a great QB for the Green Bay Packers and what he does or does'nt do in no way can change that fact. However, I want to see Clay Mathews on a blind side blitz, freakin DESTROY whomever is the QB for the Vikes. One has nothing to do with the other............

[MOBB DEEP]

[quote="Bossman641"]I can understand those backing Favre and wanting him to play purely for the entertainment value it provides. This is the viewpoint Mobb has. This is also the view the article provides, "Favre is still in the top half of QB's, it'll be fun to watch, let him come back." It's hard to argue with that logic and I can't disagree with it.

As a PACKER fan though, I can't understand anyone backing Favre because they want to see him stick it to TT or because they want to see him do well and win a SB. That is in direct conflict of what a Packer fan should want.[/quote

very accurate assessment of my stance boss

SPOT ON article imo

and PLEASE BELIEVE ME, i understand the contradiction/quandry in the packer/tt vs favre issue. i think wat gets lost, tho, is that brett doesnt hate us packer/nfl fans; he just hates TT. i used the benedict arnold analogy last nite b/c it was more about PRIDE than money for him. and its OBVIOUS its the same motivation for favre. b/c i read the bible i know thats not the most optimal way to live one's life but in the entity of pro sports its acceptable, almost expected. thus, i can undersatnd how he felt slighted by TT nem. the sports world created/creates that monster with the fanatacism over these mere humans, making them demigods. then we're shocked that they become entitiled?? go figure

but as i also keep sayn, we as fans have NO control over this; we dont choose draft picks, signings, players quiting on our teams, etc. thats why i decided about 3 years ago to view all this as MERE ENTERTAINMENT, even to the point where i can now enjoy moss catching a TD pass to send jets/pats game into overtime even tho im a brett fan.

even moss in that memorable game was like "i gota see this, this is bret favre here" when he played for vikes

may be hard pill to swallow but ALL these pro atheletes are are simply entertainers. in the past i i would be mad/siock for like 3-4 days after a packer loss. all grumpy and stuff...then one day i had revelation (prayed for deliverance) and realized its NOT THAT SERIOUS....life's tragedies and the clients i deal with in poverty-stricken areas helped me as well. not that im sayn im better than the die hard packer backers (or any other team) but i thank God for my evolving to the point where its EASIER to keep in perspective

STILL cant watch lakers tho, lol

[MOBB DEEP]

LOL at chilly sayn it musta been deanna that gave brett the deadline tho

how rich...

[Gunakor]

Re: Favre

So now is'nt it hypocritical as Packer fans if we rip him because that same heart and desire that we loved when he wore Green and Gold are behind his motivation to stick it to Teddy?

Substitute "the Green Bay Packers" for the name "Teddy" at the end of that sentence. And there you have it. The reason why many Packer fans are upset over the whole deal. Many of us view Thompson as the top representitive of the Packers, and realize that there isn't any way for Favre to stick it to Teddy without impacting the rest of the team and it's fans.

Is there any way you can think of for Favre to get back at Thompson in such a manner that it would have no impact on the Packers chances of winning the NFC North and contending for a Super Bowl? If there is, does Favre have to join the Vikings to make it work?

I can appreciate his competitiveness and heart. However, I don't agree that he was wronged any more than anyone else in this league who has been released or traded. So no, I don't agree with his motivation to stick it to the Packers. I would hope that he could appreciate the NFL for the business it is, appreciate the fact that he's only an employee of that business and that nothing is guaranteed, appreciate the motivation for Thompson to move ahead with Rodgers, and accept the consequences of his retirement and subsequent unretirement.

He doesn't "deserve" to play for whoever he wants to play for (well, until this year when he is no longer contractually obligated to play for anyone in particular). He deserves to play, I'd agree with that. And if he wasn't so dead set on a particular team - meaning he left open the possibility he'd play for someone else as long as he could play - I wouldn't be so upset by it. But, as you said, he's dead set on sticking it to ole Teddy - and by extension, sticking it to ole Teddy will mean sticking it to the Packers as a whole. I can't support that.

[Gunakor]

i think wat gets lost, tho, is that brett doesnt hate us packer/nfl fans; he just hates TT.

No, that much isn't lost. We all understand that.

What gets lost is that Favre can't stick it to TT without hurting the Packers. It's not possible. How are Packer fans supposed to view this? How are we supposed to react?

[MOBB DEEP]

I can understand those backing Favre and wanting him to play purely for the entertainment value it provides. This is the viewpoint Mobb has. This is also the view the article provides, "Favre is still in the top half of QB's, it'll be fun to watch, let him come back." It's hard to argue with that logic and I can't disagree with it.

As a PACKER fan though, I can't understand anyone backing Favre because they want to see him stick it to TT or because they want to see him do well and win a SB. That is in direct conflict of what a Packer fan should want.

Because Thompson ain't the fucking Packers.

As Thompson goes, so go the Packers. There's no way for Favre to get even with Thompson, without it also effecting the team.

what if favre has the BEST game of his career and aaron stinks yet packers win?! i could live with that as a favre/packer lover

would be win-win since TT would have to admit favre woulda been good addtion last year