Starting RT

[Gunakor]

Personally, I'd like to see Daryn Colledge at RT. I'd like to see TJ Lang at LG. And I'd like it to stay that way for 16 games + playoffs.

What gives you any confidence in a rookie you've never seen? Physically and mentally he's going to have a huge learning curve. Barbre has been in this offense going on three years. Giacomini is entering his second.

For me, the last thing I want is a rookie starting. We've seen how that works out the last few years. Part of continually drafting depth is that hopefully you don't have to start rookies very often. Of course, the depth was incredibly weak three years ago and it's just getting built back up, but I think it's far enough along that rookies shouldn't have to start week one unless injuries force the issue.

I haven't seen Barbre play RT for any significant time in a game either. Gia hasn't stepped onto a field on game day once yet. What should give me any more confidence in those two at RT than I'd have in Lang at LG?

This is the way I'd like our line to look going forward. I don't expect it to be at all polished in week 1 (as if they've ever been polished in week 1 in any of the last 5 years), but I'd like MM to stick with it for the entire season and let them grow together. I'd like Lang to start week 1 for continuity.

[Gunakor]

Personally, I'd like to see Daryn Colledge at RT. I'd like to see TJ Lang at LG. And I'd like it to stay that way for 16 games + playoffs.

Daryn Colledge is a LT.

Not until Clifton is gone. Cliffy is our LT this year.

[Fritz]

Barbre. With Favre gone, we need someone whose name is pronounced phonetically incorrectly.

Oh, and I think he has the ability to be an upgrade in run blocking.

This is the best damn reason I've heard yet.

I like the way you think, Joe.

[Bossman641]

No Tony Moll option???

[vince]

I'd like to see 1. Barbre or 2. Giaco take over the RT spot for good. I think Lang's best spot would be LG with Colledge moving out to replace Clifton in 2010.

[bobblehead]

Personally, I'd like to see Daryn Colledge at RT. I'd like to see TJ Lang at LG. And I'd like it to stay that way for 16 games + playoffs.

Daryn Colledge is a LT.

I've been on that wagon for a long time, but if we need an RT, DC played it very well last year when called upon. I know its only one game, but he looked so natural at it. If we NEED him at RT I won't be worried about him there.

[SnakeLH2006]

I don't see the man-love for Breno. Can't even remember that guy doing anything EVER in preseaon or current. Langy baby! Love his tough guy shit. Barbre had that rep, but didn't do much to show it. Lang looks the guy for the nasty shit as a rook starter. Snake endorses Langy.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Personally, I'd like to see Daryn Colledge at RT. I'd like to see TJ Lang at LG. And I'd like it to stay that way for 16 games + playoffs.

Daryn Colledge is a LT.

Not until Clifton is gone. Cliffy is our LT this year.

Ahhh, Colledge is better now. All he needs is an affectionate nickname like "Cliffy" and you'll start to come around. How about "DeeCee"? Or "Hard Knocks"? (as in college of hard knocks).

[KYPack]

Personally, I'd like to see Daryn Colledge at RT. I'd like to see TJ Lang at LG. And I'd like it to stay that way for 16 games + playoffs.

Daryn Colledge is a LT.

Not until Clifton is gone. Cliffy is our LT this year.

Ahhh, Colledge is better now. All he needs is an affectionate nickname like "Cliffy" and you'll start to come around. How about "DeeCee"? Or "Hard Knocks"? (as in college of hard knocks).

Change his first name to "Joe".

[Gunakor]

Personally, I'd like to see Daryn Colledge at RT. I'd like to see TJ Lang at LG. And I'd like it to stay that way for 16 games + playoffs.

Daryn Colledge is a LT.

Not until Clifton is gone. Cliffy is our LT this year.

Ahhh, Colledge is better now. All he needs is an affectionate nickname like "Cliffy" and you'll start to come around. How about "DeeCee"? Or "Hard Knocks"? (as in college of hard knocks).

Maybe Colledge is better. Maybe not. They'll have that battle in camp. Or, maybe they won't. Maybe MM is going to play Colledge at LG and that's that. Or, hopefully, MM gives him a shot at the starting RT spot, seeing as how we don't really have anyone over there at all we can feel confident about. I don't know, but I certainly can't see Clifton being removed from the starting LT spot as long as he's on our roster, especially considering Colledge's versatility whereas Clifton can only play LT. I'd think the only way they could stick Colledge in as a starting LT is to give Clifton his outright release, using his roster spot on a guy who is capable of playing multiple positions on the line. Cliffy's contract expires after this season anyway, so I'm pretty sure he'll be our starting LT until then.

[ND72]

Personally, I'd like to see Daryn Colledge at RT. I'd like to see TJ Lang at LG. And I'd like it to stay that way for 16 games + playoffs.

Daryn Colledge is a LT.

Not until Clifton is gone. Cliffy is our LT this year.

I have been one of the biggest chad clifton fans there is...but he's done. I watched him a ton last year, and he didn't have that good first pitch backwards in pass pro you want from a LT. And has lost his forward punch on swim moves that you need, especially since most DE's from that side are fast.

[ND72]

I really like our 2 picks this year in Lang and Meredith. I think Lang projects more of a Guard than a Tackle, and Meredith has the potential to be one of the best...but that's just potential.

This Year -
LT - Cliffy
LG - Colledge
C - Wells
RG - Spitz
RT - Barbre

I could See in the Future -
LT - Colledge
LG - Lang
C - Spitz
RG - Sitton
RT - Meredith

I don't see the love for Gia either, he just hasn't impressed me in the limited play time he's had. He is the guy every coach loves to hopefully develop, 6'7" (if not taller), a lean 300+....but I donno. I tend to not trust those "hopefuls".

[pbmax]

I can't disagree about Cliffy, he really seemed to struggle at times last year (esp. early) with his pass protection.

I am not sure about Colledge at Left Tackle, but I do know that he seems to have gone from a question mark to a solid contributor at Guard, which at times looked unlikely in the beginning. Someone mentioned arm length in relation to his struggles in pass protection which made sense to me, he always seemed to be leaning out to reach the defender early and could get caught off balance if the guy changed direction. If so, that might get worse at Tackle.

Breno supposedly wowed everyone with his improvement on the Scout team blocking AK. But unless I am mistaken, those practices might be in pads but its not live hitting. So he may very well be better but not ready for primetime yet.

I could easily live with NDs lineups. I suspect though, that the coaches are looking for Clifton - Colledge Spitz - Sitton - Barbre

[RashanGary]

This year

Clifton
Colledge
Spitz
Sitton
Barbre


Next year

Colledge or draft or FA
Lang or Colledge
Spitz
Sitton
Barbre

[Gunakor]

This year

Clifton
Colledge
Spitz
Sitton
Barbre


Next year

Colledge or draft or FA
Lang or Colledge
Spitz
Sitton
Barbre

Just wondering, what does everybody see in a guy like Barbre - who hasn't really gotten any PT in a couple years of being here - that makes everyone comfortable with him becoming a starting tackle? I guess I'm indifferent about Barbre, because I've really not seen him play. But if Tony Moll was listed higher on the depth chart than Barbre and made several starts at RT where Barbre hadn't even earned that chance, I'm not real comfortable with the idea of Barbre being a regular starter there. Am I missing something?