Where do you stand on Favre being a Viking?

[pbmax]

If he does play for them I hope the Packers never add him to the Packers Hall of Fame.

I support this idea. He no longer measures up to the standards of our HOF. When he's feeling nostalgic in his old age, let him visit the good folks in Canton. He should stay out of Wisconsin.

I disagree simply becuase that would be stooping to Favre's level of childishness. The Packers should show the class that Favre currently and severely lacks right now.

Just as long as neither stoops to the posters' level of childishness.

[prsnfoto]

If he does play for them I hope the Packers never add him to the Packers Hall of Fame.

I support this idea. He no longer measures up to the standards of our HOF. When he's feeling nostalgic in his old age, let him visit the good folks in Canton. He should stay out of Wisconsin.

Ahh yes let us remove the likes of Taylor,Lombardi,Horning, Majik,Bennett,Reggie,and soon to be A. Green, Sharper and Longwell those son of a bitchs are all traitors who went to other teams either willingly or forced and all should be shot dead according to the braindead dumbfucks on this board. I was heartbroken at first to hear the possibbility of Favre playing for the Queer Queens but that is reality today most players will play for 3-5 teams in their career you can be pissed at him if you like but you(meaning anyone with the bright idea he doesn't belong) sound pretty silly even suggesting it.

[]{ilr]3]

If he does play for them I hope the Packers never add him to the Packers Hall of Fame.

I support this idea. He no longer measures up to the standards of our HOF. When he's feeling nostalgic in his old age, let him visit the good folks in Canton. He should stay out of Wisconsin.

Ahh yes let us remove the likes of Taylor,Lombardi,Horning, Majik,Bennett,Reggie,and soon to be A. Green, Sharper and Longwell those son of a bitchs are all traitors who went to other teams either willingly or forced and all should be shot dead according to the braindead dumbfucks on this board. I was heartbroken at first to hear the possibbility of Favre playing for the Queer Queens but that is reality today most players will play for 3-5 teams in their career you can be pissed at him if you like but you(meaning anyone with the bright idea he doesn't belong) sound pretty silly even suggesting it.

This is BS, as the ones who are already in there did not go to the Vikings. Sharper and Longwell showed there true colors when they chose to wear purple just as Favre is doing.

Only a brain dead dumb fuck cannot see there is a HUGE difference in going to anouther team or going to the Vikings

[SkinBasket]

I hope the Packers murder Brett Favre and send his head to the Vikings wrapped in leftover fish fry tinfoil.

Would that be legal?

It might be legally dubious, but I'm no Johnnie Cochran.

[The Shadow]

As I said elsewhere, I hope he does play for the Vikings because it's a Greek tragedy (okay, it's not quite tragedy but you get the idea) unfolding in front of us.

It's like watching a car stall on the train tracks. As the train barrels headlong down the tracks, you don't want anything bad to happen. Mostly.

Very nicely put!

[Pugger]

Weren't guys like Taylor and Hornung TRADED to other teams? I guess what really gets under my craw is BF WANTS to to go our most hated rival. If indeed his motivation for going to MN is revenge he will crash and burn by November, god willing...

[Scott Campbell]

{ilr]3]

If he does play for them I hope the Packers never add him to the Packers Hall of Fame.

I support this idea. He no longer measures up to the standards of our HOF. When he's feeling nostalgic in his old age, let him visit the good folks in Canton. He should stay out of Wisconsin.

Ahh yes let us remove the likes of Taylor,Lombardi,Horning, Majik,Bennett,Reggie,and soon to be A. Green, Sharper and Longwell those son of a bitchs are all traitors who went to other teams either willingly or forced and all should be shot dead according to the braindead dumbfucks on this board. I was heartbroken at first to hear the possibbility of Favre playing for the Queer Queens but that is reality today most players will play for 3-5 teams in their career you can be pissed at him if you like but you(meaning anyone with the bright idea he doesn't belong) sound pretty silly even suggesting it.

This is BS, as the ones who are already in there did not go to the Vikings. Sharper and Longwell showed there true colors when they chose to wear purple just as Favre is doing.

Only a brain dead dumb fuck cannot see there is a HUGE difference in going to anouther team or going to the Vikings

The vengeance angle ticks me off as much as anything else. That, and I think he manipulated his way out of both GB and NY.

However, my Packer HOF comments were a bit over the top. Though I cringe at the idea of him sharing space with Bart Starr as one of the all time Packer greats.

[The Shadow]

Weren't guys like Taylor and Hornung TRADED to other teams? I guess what really gets under my craw is BF WANTS to to go our most hated rival. If indeed his motivation for going to MN is revenge he will crash and burn by November, god willing...

Taylor chose to sign with the Saints because it was close to home.
Hornung was left by Lombardi on a list of players who could be taken by the new Saints franchise (gambling that his injuries would stop the Saints from choosing him).
Hornung WAS chosen - and retired.

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[pbmax]

Weren't guys like Taylor and Hornung TRADED to other teams? I guess what really gets under my craw is BF WANTS to to go our most hated rival. If indeed his motivation for going to MN is revenge he will crash and burn by November, god willing...

This is the part of the argument I cannot really comment on. I did not grow up here and cannot claim any share of Viking loathing (laughing maybe, but not loathing). But if the Packers release Favre, do you really expect that he should abide by your wishes and play out of the division?

No, its not the same as Lombardi, Taylor or Hornung, but shouldn't the rules that apply to the rest of the league apply to Favre?

[Gunakor]

No, its not the same as Lombardi, Taylor or Hornung, but shouldn't the rules that apply to the rest of the league apply to Favre?

Yes they should, and they do. There is nothing that can stop Favre from playing for the Vikings as long as the Vikings offer him a contract. Nobody is arguing the rules or saying they should be changed in this particular instance. If Brett wants to play for the Vikings and the Vikings want Brett, then it's going to happen and nothing any of us say about it can change that. Those are the rules.

I don't think that after the Packers released Favre that he should have stayed out of our division just to accomidate our wishes. But I don't think that spite should play a major role in his decision not to stay out of our divison either. There's no rule to regulate that, and I'm not suggesting there should be. But that doesn't change the way I feel about it.

[KYPack]

Weren't guys like Taylor and Hornung TRADED to other teams? I guess what really gets under my craw is BF WANTS to to go our most hated rival. If indeed his motivation for going to MN is revenge he will crash and burn by November, god willing...

Taylor chose to sign with the Saints because it was close to home.
Hornung was left by Lombardi on a list of players who could be taken by the new Saints franchise (gambling that his injuries would stop the Saints from choosing him).
Hornung WAS chosen - and retired.

Taylor was traded to the Saints. Taylor did want to go there, but Vince got Phil Vandersea and the Saints #1 pick in '68. The Pack then drafted LB Fred Carr with the pick. Taylor was all played out, it was a great trade for the Packers.

[run pMc]

Where do I stand?
I don't like it.

--I understand he still wants to play, that's fine, then play. I have no problem with that.

--The will-he-won't-he retirement crap wore pretty thin about 4 years ago.

--Drafting Rodgers was a prudent move with an aging QB.

--When Favre retired, MM installed new wrinkles in the offense that catered to Rodgers's skill set. Favre's return would have ruined all that work. I think TT wanted to see if he could play, and to justify the R1 pick. I believe that the team had moved on without him -- he retired in a teary press conf, after all -- and so TT had to trade Favre when he unretired.
No biggie, Reggie unretired and played for CAR.

--When Favre retired (again), he admitted he wanted to "stick it to Ted". If this is a primary motivator, it's a selfish one (personal vendetta vs. team accomplishments). That's what I really have a problem with. IMO it also tempts the Football Gods -- e.g., AP blows an ACL or something. Emotion can only carry a team/player so far.

--Can Favre hold up mentally and physically, especially when he's 2/3 thru the season, games vs. the Pack are done? Can he string 3 good playoff performances? Can Childress/Bevell rein this guy in and coach him?
Consider me skeptical.

--Favre is talking to ONLY the Vikings because he knows the WCO & MIN is a good team. Makes sense. However, it sure sounds like he mostly wants to play for MIN to beat GB twice in a year (& especially at Lambeau).

--I don't recall Sharper, Longwell, et al., admitting to negotiating ONLY with the Vikings with the intent to "stick it" to GB. Sharper seems like the kind of guy who would play for the AFL if they waved enough money at him.

--I think MIN has a good team, and I say all of this without a hint of jealousy.

--If someone told you MIN wants to strap it's hopes for good QB play on a 39 year old QB coming off arm surgery and out of retirement, most Packer fans would be doing cartwheels. Yeah, he's not Vinny Testaverde, I get that. Regardless of whether Favre signs with MIN and they win the SB...MIN will have f**d their QB situation. Sage/TJ can't be thrilled about this, and regardless of what anyone at Winter Park says, it IS a distraction for the players & coaches.

--I understand the betrayal people feel, especially after years of Favre's "I'll retire before I play for anyone but Green Bay" statements. I guess we didn't realize what he meant back then...

--I think Favre has seriously damaged his reputation with his behavior, both within and outside Packer Nation. I would prefer Favre stay retired. The drama from last year still has people worked up. Reading all the stuff fans, bloggers, and reporters have written has been polarizing, and not in a good way.

I will not cheer Favre on this year except for when he plays the Bears.

[The Shadow]

Weren't guys like Taylor and Hornung TRADED to other teams? I guess what really gets under my craw is BF WANTS to to go our most hated rival. If indeed his motivation for going to MN is revenge he will crash and burn by November, god willing...

Taylor chose to sign with the Saints because it was close to home.
Hornung was left by Lombardi on a list of players who could be taken by the new Saints franchise (gambling that his injuries would stop the Saints from choosing him).
Hornung WAS chosen - and retired.

Taylor was traded to the Saints. Taylor did want to go there, but Vince got Phil Vandersea and the Saints #1 pick in '68. The Pack then drafted LB Fred Carr with the pick. Taylor was all played out, it was a great trade for the Packers.

I believe you are wrong here.
Taylor was not traded, he signed willingly.

[Packnut]

Favre

Where do I stand?
I don't like it.

--I understand he still wants to play, that's fine, then play. I have no problem with that.

--The will-he-won't-he retirement crap wore pretty thin about 4 years ago.

--Drafting Rodgers was a prudent move with an aging QB.

--When Favre retired, MM installed new wrinkles in the offense that catered to Rodgers's skill set. Favre's return would have ruined all that work. I think TT wanted to see if he could play, and to justify the R1 pick. I believe that the team had moved on without him -- he retired in a teary press conf, after all -- and so TT had to trade Favre when he unretired.
No biggie, Reggie unretired and played for CAR.

--When Favre retired (again), he admitted he wanted to "stick it to Ted". If this is a primary motivator, it's a selfish one (personal vendetta vs. team accomplishments). That's what I really have a problem with. IMO it also tempts the Football Gods -- e.g., AP blows an ACL or something. Emotion can only carry a team/player so far.

--Can Favre hold up mentally and physically, especially when he's 2/3 thru the season, games vs. the Pack are done? Can he string 3 good playoff performances? Can Childress/Bevell rein this guy in and coach him?
Consider me skeptical.

--Favre is talking to ONLY the Vikings because he knows the WCO & MIN is a good team. Makes sense. However, it sure sounds like he mostly wants to play for MIN to beat GB twice in a year (& especially at Lambeau).

--I don't recall Sharper, Longwell, et al., admitting to negotiating ONLY with the Vikings with the intent to "stick it" to GB. Sharper seems like the kind of guy who would play for the AFL if they waved enough money at him.

--I think MIN has a good team, and I say all of this without a hint of jealousy.

--If someone told you MIN wants to strap it's hopes for good QB play on a 39 year old QB coming off arm surgery and out of retirement, most Packer fans would be doing cartwheels. Yeah, he's not Vinny Testaverde, I get that. Regardless of whether Favre signs with MIN and they win the SB...MIN will have f**d their QB situation. Sage/TJ can't be thrilled about this, and regardless of what anyone at Winter Park says, it IS a distraction for the players & coaches.

--I understand the betrayal people feel, especially after years of Favre's "I'll retire before I play for anyone but Green Bay" statements. I guess we didn't realize what he meant back then...

--I think Favre has seriously damaged his reputation with his behavior, both within and outside Packer Nation. I would prefer Favre stay retired. The drama from last year still has people worked up. Reading all the stuff fans, bloggers, and reporters have written has been polarizing, and not in a good way.

I will not cheer Favre on this year except for when he plays the Bears.

I've found a huge positive out of this debacle. My obsession with the Packers had a great part of control over my life. I remember always feeling like I had been kicked in the gut everytime they lost. I would plan my life around Packer football. I worshiped Bart Starr as if he were some kind of God-like creature. I remember watching a piece on tv when Bart was coaching. It was a video collection with the song "the way we were". Man, I balled my eyes out.

Living in Chicago, I have a different perspective on Favre. He made football fun again for me. I will forever be thankfull to him for that. He gave me some real great times. I will never forget walking in stores on Mondays with my Packer gear on and Bear fans looking at me and then their eyes would shift to the ground and a look of shame would envelope them. It was pure unadulterated joy! I will not throw all those memories out because of this crap.

What this has all taught me is that their is no loyalty what-so-ever in the NFL. Players play for money plain and simple. It's a job, nothing more, nothing less. It goes the same for teams. They have no loyalty to the players. I could care less what Favre's motives are just like I no longer care what Thompson's motives were.

I agree with Fritz, it will be good drama if it happens. I don't buy the Greek tragedy angle, but good drama non-the-less. I'll be happy if the Pack beats a Favre led Vikes team, but at the same time, I won't feel anything if Favre thows 3 td's and the Vikes win.