Where do the Favre lovers stand on Favre being a Viking?

[GrnBay007]

Hey, it's been fun but it's a beautiful, sunny day and I'm going out to enjoy it.

Adios doom n gloomers! :P

[RashanGary]

In the beginning of Favre's career, yeah. When he carried Driver off the field or Jennings, It didn't feel that way to me. Everything about Favre feels selfish and wrong to me. I can't cheer for him. I don't respect him. I don't feel like his heart is in the right spot.

[RashanGary]

Hey, it's been fun but it's a beautiful, sunny day and I'm going out to enjoy it.

Adios doom n gloomers! :P

Me too. Going swimming with the lil ones. Just got some exercise in.

[hurleyfan]

[quote="GrnBay007"]

are just tired of this whole thing..

Why do people continue to follow that particular bit of NFL news if they are "tired" of it. I could see if he was part of the Packers team right now, but he's not. I can't really say it's off season talk either because as long as he's playing...or there's a chance of him playing there will be talk.

It's hard not to follow when there are so many threads on the front page of our PackerRats, plus the constant updates from ESPN and other media sources!

I loved Favre (and hated him as we all prolly did!) while he was playing. He did as much for the Packers as anyone in their history..

I guess I'm saying I am tired of all this rhetoric, really wish it never came to this position, and let him get on with whatever he decides to do.. If it's playing with the Vikes, so be it.. He'll be another QB on the opponent that the Packers have to beat. If he retires for good, so be that!

[hurleyfan]

Hey, it's been fun but it's a beautiful, sunny day and I'm going out to enjoy it.

Adios doom n gloomers! :P

Pouring rain here... again

[Gunakor]

I remember his last season in GB when he would hoist Driver over his shoulder after a TD and throwing snowballs at him during that Seattle game. For some reason you don't remember any of the Favre being a Packer teammate times, do you?

Yes, I remember. I'm sure it'll be part of the Favre highlight reel shown in the Packer HOF too. Indeed that is a special part of who he is.

I remember stories of Favre going hunting with his teammates, and going trick or treating at Holmgren's house with bag-o-doughnuts. But those stories have long since stopped being told.

In the end, Favre only had a real connection with a few of the older veterans on the team. I can understand that. But when I hear things about Aaron Rodgers such as taking some of his guys out to the Kentucky Derby, or having BBQ's at his house with his teammates, it's a welcome change. It gives me a feeling that Rodgers is working harder to make those connections to and to build that chemistry with his teammates that is so important to success than Favre was, at least towards the end. For Favre, a guy that for so long was all about team chemistry and team success, I find it strange that he didn't make a better effort to make that connection, as awkward as it may have been.

[MOBB DEEP]

AGAIN.....the order is father, son, holy spirit, Lord favre...........

[th87]

I'm all about giving the benefit of the doubt, as it is true that we do not know how everything went down. However, in Favre's case, evidence against him keeps piling up.

For example, we've heard Favre is obsessed with the Packers and can't let it go. Okay, that could probably be hearsay. But add up all the other "hearsays". That Favre was giving out secrets. That Favre demanded a trade after the failed Moss trade. That Favre dislikes Green Bay. Leroy Butler saying this is only the beginning. It's easy to dismiss one or two of these as media concoctions, but as they continue to pile up, you start to wonder whether there's some truth to all this.

Plus the fact he's contradicted himself numerous times.

Of course, I'm sure Brett Favre's a good, but flawed person. Like any of us. You can definitely see the genuine emotion. I don't think his tears are fake. Him crying when he saw the little girl through the Make-A-Wish foundation could not possibly be fake:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtJb0c8o4pE

So I do think he gets vilified more than he deserves. That said, there is certainly evidence that he's somewhat of a prima donna. I guess his ego began to swell somewhere along the line. This has resulted in the situation that we have today. It makes him seem petty and selfish, and has caused me to wake up to the fact that Favre is a flawed human being, rather than a do-no-wrong childhood hero. It's a little sad, sure, but that's life. It doesn't make him a bad person at all.

But he's no longer this wide-eyed humble kid, and that's okay:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcXWfqAh2MI

[woodbuck27]

I'm all about giving the benefit of the doubt, as it is true that we do not know how everything went down. However, in Favre's case, evidence against him keeps piling up.

For example, we've heard Favre is obsessed with the Packers and can't let it go. Okay, that could probably be hearsay. But add up all the other "hearsays". That Favre was giving out secrets. That Favre demanded a trade after the failed Moss trade. That Favre dislikes Green Bay. Leroy Butler saying this is only the beginning. It's easy to dismiss one or two of these as media concoctions, but as they continue to pile up, you start to wonder whether there's some truth to all this.

Plus the fact he's contradicted himself numerous times.

Of course, I'm sure Brett Favre's a good, but flawed person. Like any of us. You can definitely see the genuine emotion. I don't think his tears are fake. Him crying when he saw the little girl through the Make-A-Wish foundation could not possibly be fake:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtJb0c8o4pE

So I do think he gets vilified more than he deserves. That said, there is certainly evidence that he's somewhat of a prima donna. I guess his ego began to swell somewhere along the line. This has resulted in the situation that we have today. It makes him seem petty and selfish, and has caused me to wake up to the fact that Favre is a flawed human being, rather than a do-no-wrong childhood hero. It's a little sad, sure, but that's life. It doesn't make him a bad person at all.

But he's no longer this wide-eyed humble kid, and that's okay:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcXWfqAh2MI

Favre has always made himself available to the media. With that he opens himself up to both good and bad interpretation. Overall I see Favre as a decent human being but as an icon in the NFL he draws on a lot of emotions.

I will never understand the hatred he inspires in people, and that is clear in some that post here. I will not stand in front of their hatred but in no way will I buckle in or under to their weak manners and personalitys. I wish I could see them as the misfits out there but more and more it's these people that we need to force back under their rock.

[Scott Campbell]

If you're going to start holding yourself up as being morally superior because of your views over stupid football stuff, you better brace yourself for getting run off again.

Some people never learn.

[woodbuck27]

If you're going to start holding yourself up as being morally superior because of your views over stupid football stuff, you better brace yourself for getting run off again.

Some people never learn.

Run off Scott?

Can you elaborate on that foolish comment?

[RashanGary]

Well said, th87.

I get the impression that he feels Ted Thompson moving on was a great wrong to him after all he's done for the Packers. Ted was hired to win football games and he knows tough decisions have to be made. It's the lack of maturity on Brett's part that bothers me. Instead of understanding where others are coming from, he jumps the gun and wants to fight back. He has so much power built up through his fame that he can do a lot of damage to other people. That's what bothers me, how much he's hurt other people (Thompson, McCarthy and Rodgers just to name a few, then the Jets people who traded for him and right down the line).

I think deep down he thinks he's owed special treatment and Ted greatly wronged him by moving on. I know he's not out there trying to be evil. I just see a spoiled person. I see a guy in a bad spot, a spot where he will hurt others with no regard for how his actions affect them. When you're fed the garbage that you're special, you're great all day, I'm sure you start believing it. I feel like I understand where he's coming from. I definitely love him as another person and don't think I'm any better. If I hate anything, I hate what he does to other good people. If there is something I don't like, I don't like that he thinks it's OK to work half the time of his teammates but get all of the glory on Sunday. I don't think that's the way it should work.

[The Shadow]

Quite frankly, when the Packers came up with Packer people, I thought they were full of shit.

Brandon Jackson (IMO a little slow), but a great kid. I like listening to him talk. I like seeing his lockerroom interviews where he's smiling with his teammates. I like hearing the genuine humility in his voice and when he breaks a tackle on the football field, I smile because I know how much hard work he's put in and how much it means to him.

That's how I feel about the Packers. You might roll your eyes and think it's stupid, but I feel good about it and I know a lot of other people do too.

Yeah, I see where you are coming from. I remember when Favre was a Packer and seeing his enthusiasm too. I remember his last season in GB when he would hoist Driver over his shoulder after a TD and throwing snowballs at him during that Seattle game. For some reason you don't remember any of the Favre being a Packer teammate times, do you? Strange, huh?

Much more telling than the stagey bits for the cameras was his teammates' thundering silence when he was shipped off.

[MOBB DEEP]

Lather, Rinse, Repeat....... several times a day if needed

lol

[Packers4Ever]

Why are you obsessed with this man?

The FAvre story has been going on for many years. Now is the time we all get to see his true colors. Favre the player should be remembered for what he did on the field. Favre the person should be remembered for drug addiction, adultery, selfishness and dishonesty.

Considering he was such a huge part of this team for so long (credited for every team success and excused for every failure). It always has and always will be a hot topic among Packer fans. I don't ever see myself thinking back on him as a good guy.

Geez, I hope someday you grow up! This little kid act of yours is wearing very thin..........

Everyone here will have his/her own way of remembering Brett Favre - -some choose the worst memories from long ago. He will be favored all the more not only for his talent on the field but his generosity towards people including his team, charities and so forth. Those people will far outweigh the others who remember only the more undesirable memories from his young days.