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  • #76
    Originally posted by Pacopete4
    Originally posted by MJZiggy
    Originally posted by woodbuck27

    Don't underestimate Favre as a QB. Rather respect him. I'll bet TT and MM will.

    GO PACK GO!
    Respect, yes, of course. Fear not as much.


    ooooh I don't know about that one. They may fear him a ton since they'll be trying to stop the run so much, they know he could go off at any moment. Giving him a top RB, maybe of all time, and who knows what this cat can do.. even at 40.
    Yeaeh, McCarthy and Capers fear Favre.

    McCarthy and Capers fear no player. Asinine to think otherwise.

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    • #77
      If Jennings' contract figures on PFT are accurate, they got a good deal. He is a step below the elite contracts and players right now, and based solely on production, that is about right. At $8 million per, like the Kampman deal before him, he will look like a steal next August. If PFT's numbers are right.

      edited to correct link (previously went to wrong Jennings story)
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      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by cpk1994
        Asinine to think otherwise.
        CPK, for the love of Dick "Bam Bam" Ambrose, stop ending every post with an expletive or insult. Please? They are unnecessary.

        P.S. Forgive the Cleveland Browns reference with Mr. Ambrose there, but having Clay Matthews III and Clay Matthews Jr. in the paper for the last three days has made me nostalgic.
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Pacopete4

          ooooh I don't know about that one. They may fear him a ton since they'll be trying to stop the run so much, they know he could go off at any moment. Giving him a top RB, maybe of all time, and who knows what this cat can do.. even at 40.
          After two years in the league that is silly. He has 3,100 yards. If he can stand up to the pounding for 2-4 more years you might actual be able to make that arguement.
          But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

          -Tim Harmston

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          • #80
            Originally posted by ThunderDan
            Originally posted by Pacopete4

            ooooh I don't know about that one. They may fear him a ton since they'll be trying to stop the run so much, they know he could go off at any moment. Giving him a top RB, maybe of all time, and who knows what this cat can do.. even at 40.
            After two years in the league that is silly. He has 3,100 yards. If he can stand up to the pounding for 2-4 more years you might actual be able to make that arguement.
            probably why it says the word maybe, eh fuck stick? AP is a better offensive weapon than anyone he's ever played with, plain and simple.

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            • #81
              If AP is better than Sterling Sharp, it ain't by much.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Pacopete4
                Originally posted by MJZiggy
                Originally posted by woodbuck27

                Don't underestimate Favre as a QB. Rather respect him. I'll bet TT and MM will.

                GO PACK GO!
                Respect, yes, of course. Fear not as much.


                ooooh I don't know about that one. They may fear him a ton since they'll be trying to stop the run so much, they know he could go off at any moment. Giving him a top RB, maybe of all time, and who knows what this cat can do.. even at 40.
                My sense though is that Favre plays the wrong kind of game to be able to take the Vikes where they want to go. He'll still "go off at any moment" from time to time - the crazy shovel pass that ends up in a big first down, the touchdown strike between three defenders. On the flip side, he'll also audible into a pass on third and one if he thinks he sees something - and then throw an interception.

                He's a high risk/reward guy. And given the strength of Minny's run game, I'm not sure that's what they need. In addition, he's not the Favre of five or ten years ago. On top of that, he's once more basically taken a whole offseason off. No minicamps, no personal trainer, no nothing. He's relying on his memory of the offense, and though it may be very similar to what GB ran, I can't imagine it's exactly the same - the terminology must be a little different, I would think. Can he really waltz into training camp and be lights out for a whole season? Or even that steady hand all season?

                My guess is no. Again, I do think he'll make some spectacular plays, but I also think he'll make more than his share of spectacular mistakes.
                "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                KYPack

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Pacopete4
                  Originally posted by ThunderDan
                  Originally posted by Pacopete4

                  ooooh I don't know about that one. They may fear him a ton since they'll be trying to stop the run so much, they know he could go off at any moment. Giving him a top RB, maybe of all time, and who knows what this cat can do.. even at 40.
                  After two years in the league that is silly. He has 3,100 yards. If he can stand up to the pounding for 2-4 more years you might actual be able to make that arguement.
                  probably why it says the word maybe, eh fuck stick? AP is a better offensive weapon than anyone he's ever played with, plain and simple.
                  Ahman Green had a nearly 1900 yard season behind Brett, complimented by another 300 recieving. That doesn't mean Green is as talented as Peterson, but if you judge a football player on production, Peterson wouldn't even be the most productive RB to have ever played with Favre based on his 2 years in the NFL. That could change, of course. But 2200 yards from scrimmage in a single season is a tough one to top. I believe AP is every bit capable enough, but until he does it...
                  Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by pbmax
                    Originally posted by cpk1994
                    Asinine to think otherwise.
                    CPK, for the love of Dick "Bam Bam" Ambrose, stop ending every post with an expletive or insult. Please? They are unnecessary.

                    P.S. Forgive the Cleveland Browns reference with Mr. Ambrose there, but having Clay Matthews III and Clay Matthews Jr. in the paper for the last three days has made me nostalgic.
                    1)Asinine is niether an insult or an expletive.

                    2)I said that it is assinine to think that McCarthy and Capers fear Favre. Do you think Capers and McCarthy fear Favre?

                    You need to quit being so sensitive.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by cpk1994
                      2)I said that it is asinine to think that McCarthy and Capers fear Favre. Do you think Capers and McCarthy fear Favre?

                      the only real thing we have to go off on is the fact that they wouldn't let him go wherever he wanted to play football. That tells me they must fear him to a point, doesn't it?

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Gunakor
                        Originally posted by Pacopete4
                        Originally posted by ThunderDan
                        Originally posted by Pacopete4

                        ooooh I don't know about that one. They may fear him a ton since they'll be trying to stop the run so much, they know he could go off at any moment. Giving him a top RB, maybe of all time, and who knows what this cat can do.. even at 40.
                        After two years in the league that is silly. He has 3,100 yards. If he can stand up to the pounding for 2-4 more years you might actual be able to make that arguement.
                        probably why it says the word maybe, eh fuck stick? AP is a better offensive weapon than anyone he's ever played with, plain and simple.
                        Ahman Green had a nearly 1900 yard season behind Brett, complimented by another 300 recieving. That doesn't mean Green is as talented as Peterson, but if you judge a football player on production, Peterson wouldn't even be the most productive RB to have ever played with Favre based on his 2 years in the NFL. That could change, of course. But 2200 yards from scrimmage in a single season is a tough one to top. I believe AP is every bit capable enough, but until he does it...

                        Good point Gunakor. Brett did play with Green and Grant while they put up lots of yards. However I think the sucess of those RBs came in part from the threat of Favre. Any D facing Favre has to respect the pass, and the play action and this keeps them on their heels. RB's playing with Favre have a huge advantage because opposing D's are starting on their heels and never committing an 8th to the box.

                        Favre has never played with a back the likes of Peterson. Peterson has never played with a QB the likes of Favre. I think Peterson is giong to put up huge numbers this year.
                        Minnesota Vikings
                        NFC North Champions 2008 and 2009.

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                        • #87
                          If he doesn't get injured again.
                          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                            If he doesn't get injured again.
                            The caveat for any running back, player, or team. But excellent (and helpful) observation.
                            Minnesota Vikings
                            NFC North Champions 2008 and 2009.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by SMACKTALKIE
                              Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                              If he doesn't get injured again.
                              The caveat for any running back, player, or team. But excellent (and helpful) observation.

                              Don't worry Smack... people around here will take any cheap shot at the Vikes or Brett... mostly outta jealousy of what they are about to have this season.

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                              • #90
                                Vikingrats.com

                                Go start it
                                Originally posted by 3irty1
                                This is museum quality stupidity.

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