Jennings and Packers reach deal on contract

[Fritz]

The "proof" someone tried to use about MM and TT "fearing" Favre - that they obviously fear him since they went out of their way to trade Favre to the other conference - is no proof at all. That's a pretty standard tactic - if you trade a guy, trade him to the other conference if you can, to a team outside your division if you can't, and rarely to a team in your division. A while back there was a thread on this - there have been intra-division trades but they're not common.

So I suppose you could argue that anyone who gets traded outside their former team's division "strikes fear." But I dunno. Maybe Kansas City feared R-Kal Truluck when they sent him to Mike Sherman and the NFC for a couple of picks!

As for the whole "fuck stick" debate, well, it actually could be used in a friendly way, but you'd have to be clear about the context. For example, suppose I stopped posting for awhile, and when I returned someone wrote "Hey, Fritz, you crazy fuck-stick, where ya been?"

But tone is hard to get across for some writers, so maybe it's a phrase best avoided, though I do kinda like it myself. It's up there with 'assclown" and "asshat" in my book, though "meanie" and "poopy-head" always work too.

[pbmax]

McCarthy and Capers fear no player. Asinine to think otherwise.

Its been a long time since I diagrammed a sentence, but your second sentence is a fragment and its missing it subject and verb.

A complete sentence would read: It is asinine to think otherwise.

You claim that your subject would have been the theory you are critiquing: "Your theory is asinine to think otherwise". Not going to work, unless you are also claiming theories think on their own.

My version of what you intended: "You are asinine to think otherwise".

Given your history of insults, I don't think this was a typo. First you claim asinine is not an insult. That excuse has fallen by the wayside, you are claiming that it was directed at the opinion. Just stop.

[pbmax]

Jennings contract numbers per PFT:

Even if he hits all the incentives and optional money, the deal is under $9 million per year. One oddity, he has a big signing bonus. Not sure why, after this contract feature had become less popular. Only $8 million of his contract money hits the cap this year. But the base salaries are relatively low in the next years, so its still not a cap albatross even after adding the signing bonus pro-ration each year.

Breaking Down Greg Jennings’ Payday
Posted by Aaron Wilson on June 26, 2009, 5:49 p.m.

Green Bay Packers wide receiver Greg Jennings’ three-year contract extension included $26.35 million in new money for an average annual worth of nearly $9 million, according to Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel.

Per the report, Jennings was given an $11.25 million signing bonus and his $5 million base salary for this season has been guaranteed.

Under his old contract, Jennings was due just $535,000 in 2009.

He received a total of $16.25 million in guaranted money with base salaries of $1.85 million in 2010, $2.7 million in 2011 and $3.885 million in 2012.

According to Silverstein, Jennings can earn as much as an additional $400,000 between 2010 and 2012 in per-game roster bonuses and $300,000 workout bonuses are included for each offseason in 2010, 2011 and 2012.

Jennings also can make a total of $2.95 million more through escalator clauses.

And Jennings’ new salary-cap figure is $8.154 million, which leaves the Packers $21.5 million under the NFL’s salary cap.

No matter how you slice it, it’s a nice chunk of change for a promising young receiver.

Plus, Jennings is scheduled to be a free agent in 2013 during what should be the prime of his career.

[falco]

Speaking of fucksticks is one thing (it is uncalled for and juvenile), but if Paco is gone, shouldn't his alter-ego/nemesis CPK be gone too? No? Both of differing opinions that piss off most veteran PackerRats, but alas, just the same, except CPK is even MORE negative about EVERYTHING then Paco. Gonna clean house with Paco?...then let's clean it up. Just saying...

It's funny, I thought the same exact thing...it's like a teeter totter and one person just jumped off. :P

[Scott Campbell]

A 4 year deal means that if he's playing well, they're back at the negotiating table in 3 summers when he's only 28.

[falco]

A 4 year deal means that if he's playing well, they're back at the negotiating table in 3 summers when he's only 28.

Not sure who won on this one, but my guess is GJ.

[bobblehead]

A 4 year deal means that if he's playing well, they're back at the negotiating table in 3 summers when he's only 28.

Not sure who won on this one, but my guess is GJ.

yes and no. TT could have signed him for more, but then with the way the game is today he would hold out in 4 years and want more, so this way we don't go thru the grief.

[falco]

A 4 year deal means that if he's playing well, they're back at the negotiating table in 3 summers when he's only 28.

Not sure who won on this one, but my guess is GJ.

yes and no. TT could have signed him for more, but then with the way the game is today he would hold out in 4 years and want more, so this way we don't go thru the grief.

Good point.

[SnakeLH2006]

A 4 year deal means that if he's playing well, they're back at the negotiating table in 3 summers when he's only 28.

Not sure who won on this one, but my guess is GJ.

yes and no. TT could have signed him for more, but then with the way the game is today he would hold out in 4 years and want more, so this way we don't go thru the grief.

That's very true. There's also the possibility that TT wanted to just get a deal done, to make time to work on other contracts too. GJ surely didn't break the bank, yet got a good chunk of cash for the short term.

[Scott Campbell]

A 4 year deal means that if he's playing well, they're back at the negotiating table in 3 summers when he's only 28.

Not sure who won on this one, but my guess is GJ.

I'm sure who won. Both sides.

[pbmax]

I just read the contract breakdown on packerupdate and compared it to Silverstein's article for JSO. I think, and I could be wrong, that Silverstein swallowed a line from the agent about the average of the "new" money and reported it, failing to note that the new money only averaged almost $9 million is you ignored this year.

Of course, Jennings is receiving a good chunk of change this year and it extends his current deal so he has four remaining years. Consider this a four year deal, and his average is between $7 and $7.5 million per year. It looks like an even better bargain if those numbers are more accurate.

[SMACKTALKIE]

A 4 year deal means that if he's playing well, they're back at the negotiating table in 3 summers when he's only 28.

Not sure who won on this one, but my guess is GJ.

I'm sure who won. Both sides.

This looks like a victory for GJ. If he continues to progress as he has so far, he will be at the top of his game when he's 28. That may be a monster contract. And it may be from another team. It seems as though GJ is going to be available to the likes of Dan Snyder in a possibly uncapped year.

[Lurker64]

It seems as though GJ is going to be available to the likes of Dan Snyder in a possibly uncapped year.

Not going to happen. If the NFL doesn't get a CBA in place before the 2010 season resulting in an uncapped year, and they don't get one in place before the 2011 season, there will be a lockout until a new CBA (with salary cap) can be approved.

[Rastak]

It seems as though GJ is going to be available to the likes of Dan Snyder in a possibly uncapped year.

Not going to happen. If the NFL doesn't get a CBA in place before the 2010 season resulting in an uncapped year, and they don't get one in place before the 2011 season, there will be a lockout until a new CBA (with salary cap) can be approved.

Completely agree.....

2010 could be an upcapped year but there is no way 2011 gets played without a CBA being agreed to.

[ThunderDan]

A 4 year deal means that if he's playing well, they're back at the negotiating table in 3 summers when he's only 28.

Not sure who won on this one, but my guess is GJ.

I'm sure who won. Both sides.

This looks like a victory for GJ. If he continues to progress as he has so far, he will be at the top of his game when he's 28. That may be a monster contract. And it may be from another team. It seems as though GJ is going to be available to the likes of Dan Snyder in a possibly uncapped year.

And Snyder could grab AP too since his contract is up the same year as Jennings.