Jennings and Packers reach deal on contract

[SMACKTALKIE]

A 4 year deal means that if he's playing well, they're back at the negotiating table in 3 summers when he's only 28.

Not sure who won on this one, but my guess is GJ.

I'm sure who won. Both sides.

This looks like a victory for GJ. If he continues to progress as he has so far, he will be at the top of his game when he's 28. That may be a monster contract. And it may be from another team. It seems as though GJ is going to be available to the likes of Dan Snyder in a possibly uncapped year.

And Snyder could grab AP too since his contract is up the same year as Jennings.

Way to keep the thread on track.

Of course the Vikings could extend AD's contract, long term, before it ends........ like they do with most of their stars.

I find it odd that the pack agreed on such a short contract.

[SMACKTALKIE]

It seems as though GJ is going to be available to the likes of Dan Snyder in a possibly uncapped year.

Not going to happen. If the NFL doesn't get a CBA in place before the 2010 season resulting in an uncapped year, and they don't get one in place before the 2011 season, there will be a lockout until a new CBA (with salary cap) can be approved.

I hope it does'nt come to that.

[ThunderDan]

A 4 year deal means that if he's playing well, they're back at the negotiating table in 3 summers when he's only 28.

Not sure who won on this one, but my guess is GJ.

I'm sure who won. Both sides.

This looks like a victory for GJ. If he continues to progress as he has so far, he will be at the top of his game when he's 28. That may be a monster contract. And it may be from another team. It seems as though GJ is going to be available to the likes of Dan Snyder in a possibly uncapped year.

And Snyder could grab AP too since his contract is up the same year as Jennings.

Way to keep the thread on track.

Of course the Vikings could extend AD's contract, long term, before it ends........ like they do with most of their stars.
I find it odd that the pack agreed on such a short contract.

Kind of like what TT has been doing in Green Bay? He rewards players that are producing. In 3 years the Packers will rework the contract, if GJ becomes a superstar the Packers sure as hell won't be paying him 7 million in 2012.

[ThunderDan]

A 4 year deal means that if he's playing well, they're back at the negotiating table in 3 summers when he's only 28.

Not sure who won on this one, but my guess is GJ.

I'm sure who won. Both sides.

This looks like a victory for GJ. If he continues to progress as he has so far, he will be at the top of his game when he's 28. That may be a monster contract. And it may be from another team. It seems as though GJ is going to be available to the likes of Dan Snyder in a possibly uncapped year.

And Snyder could grab AP too since his contract is up the same year as Jennings.

Way to keep the thread on track.
Of course the Vikings could extend AD's contract, long term, before it ends........ like they do with most of their stars.

I find it odd that the pack agreed on such a short contract.

Way to take the thread off track first. TT would never let a Packer superstar in his prime walk away. At worst he would tag GJ.

So you really brought up a highly unlikely event, so I brought up that AP's contact expires the same year.

[SMACKTALKIE]

A 4 year deal means that if he's playing well, they're back at the negotiating table in 3 summers when he's only 28.

Not sure who won on this one, but my guess is GJ.

I'm sure who won. Both sides.

This looks like a victory for GJ. If he continues to progress as he has so far, he will be at the top of his game when he's 28. That may be a monster contract. And it may be from another team. It seems as though GJ is going to be available to the likes of Dan Snyder in a possibly uncapped year.

And Snyder could grab AP too since his contract is up the same year as Jennings.

Way to keep the thread on track.

Of course the Vikings could extend AD's contract, long term, before it ends........ like they do with most of their stars.
I find it odd that the pack agreed on such a short contract.

Kind of like what TT has been doing in Green Bay? He rewards players that are producing. In 3 years the Packers will rework the contract, if GJ becomes a superstar the Packers sure as hell won't be paying him 7 million in 2012.

So... again.... This looks like a victory for GJ.

[ThunderDan]

A 4 year deal means that if he's playing well, they're back at the negotiating table in 3 summers when he's only 28.

Not sure who won on this one, but my guess is GJ.

I'm sure who won. Both sides.

This looks like a victory for GJ. If he continues to progress as he has so far, he will be at the top of his game when he's 28. That may be a monster contract. And it may be from another team. It seems as though GJ is going to be available to the likes of Dan Snyder in a possibly uncapped year.

And Snyder could grab AP too since his contract is up the same year as Jennings.

Way to keep the thread on track.

Of course the Vikings could extend AD's contract, long term, before it ends........ like they do with most of their stars.
I find it odd that the pack agreed on such a short contract.

Kind of like what TT has been doing in Green Bay? He rewards players that are producing. In 3 years the Packers will rework the contract, if GJ becomes a superstar the Packers sure as hell won't be paying him 7 million in 2012.

So... again.... This looks like a victory for GJ.

I think both sides made out just fine. The Packers get an up and coming "superstar" (well damn good so far but who knows in the NFL for sure) for 3 years and GJ makes a boatload of money and will get paid again later in his career. Why wouldn't a team pay for a top 3 guy at thier postion?

If AP lives up to his hype, I can only imagine what kind of numbers he will get and after how many years of his original contract.

[sharpe1027]

Wasn't it a four year deal, the original deal plus three new years?

SMACKTALKIE,

Long-term contracts generally don't make sense, IMHO. They are just too risky. If the player doesn't play up to the contract, gets injured or demands a trade, the team is in trouble. If the signed player exceeds his contract and/or other players start getting bigger contracts, the signed player often demands more money before the contract expires anyway. It seems to make more sense for both sides to sign for medium length of time and then re-evaluate the situation before the contract expires.

Good deal for both sides.

[SMACKTALKIE]

Wasn't it a four year deal, the original deal plus three new years?

SMACKTALKIE,

Long-term contracts generally don't make sense, IMHO. They are just too risky. If the player doesn't play up to the contract, gets injured or demands a trade, the team is in trouble. If the signed player exceeds his contract and/or other players start getting bigger contracts, the signed player often demands more money before the contract expires anyway. It seems to make more sense for both sides to sign for medium length of time and then re-evaluate the situation before the contract expires.

Good deal for both sides.

Thats a good point. I guess one look at the fact that Winfield is not attending OTA's ia a good example of this.

However, an NFL contract is only a "contract" in a loose sense. If GJ suddenly decides to go on the Gilbert Brown diet, or attends the Troy Williamson school of pass recieving, he can always be cut. I guess in that case a shorter term contract makes sense to avoid dead money via a signing bonus.

This does seems to fall in line with TT's conservative approach.

GJ get rich(er) and Green Bay covers their ass. I guess it is a win-win.

[Lurker64]

It seems as though GJ is going to be available to the likes of Dan Snyder in a possibly uncapped year.

Not going to happen. If the NFL doesn't get a CBA in place before the 2010 season resulting in an uncapped year, and they don't get one in place before the 2011 season, there will be a lockout until a new CBA (with salary cap) can be approved.

I hope it does'nt come to that.

Me too, but it's fairly clear that 2010 is going to be the only uncapped year. The best case scenario, IMO, is that they just get a CBA this done this summer and avoid the 2010 debacle.

But there's no way the owners are going to agree to any CBA that doesn't include revenue sharing and a salary cap. They're not stupid enough to kill the goose that lays golden eggs, and they hold all the cards if everybody decides to play hardball.

[cpk1994]

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But there's no way the owners are going to agree to any CBA that doesn't include revenue sharing and a salary cap. They're not stupid enough to kill the goose that lays golden eggs, and they hold all the cards if everybody decides to play hardball.

They aren't except for Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder.

[pbmax]

Actually, it would be interesting if they went completely CBA free in 2011. That might be the only thing that would introduce the guaranteed contract to the NFL. It would only take one owner lusting after one player, and the dam would be broken.

But I agree, 2011 will not happen without new terms. The owners have some built-in advantages in 2010 (6 years for FA qualifying, low minimum salary, no salary floor) but those restrictions will look less intimidating when everyone is a free agent. From an egghead perspective, it would be a fascinating prospect. Charley Finley would have finally have his chance to be proven right.

Start of Baseball Free Agency

[Rastak]

Actually, it would be interesting if they went completely CBA free in 2011. That might be the only thing that would introduce the guaranteed contract to the NFL. It would only take one owner lusting after one player, and the dam would be broken.

But I agree, 2011 will not happen without new terms. The owners have some built-in advantages in 2010 (6 years for FA qualifying, low minimum salary, no salary floor) but those restrictions will look less intimidating when everyone is a free agent. From an egghead perspective, it would be a fascinating prospect. Charley Finley would have finally have his chance to be proven right.

Start of Baseball Free Agency

PB, no CBA == no college draft.....not a good thing IMHO.

[Lurker64]

Actually, it would be interesting if they went completely CBA free in 2011. That might be the only thing that would introduce the guaranteed contract to the NFL. It would only take one owner lusting after one player, and the dam would be broken.

But I agree, 2011 will not happen without new terms. The owners have some built-in advantages in 2010 (6 years for FA qualifying, low minimum salary, no salary floor) but those restrictions will look less intimidating when everyone is a free agent. From an egghead perspective, it would be a fascinating prospect. Charley Finley would have finally have his chance to be proven right.

Start of Baseball Free Agency

PB, no CBA == no college draft.....not a good thing IMHO.

That's potentially the most serious problem. An owner willing to outbid everybody else could sign every single notable college prospect. There's no way that the NFL is going to let the 2011 season happen without a CBA.

[SnakeLH2006]

Actually, it would be interesting if they went completely CBA free in 2011. That might be the only thing that would introduce the guaranteed contract to the NFL. It would only take one owner lusting after one player, and the dam would be broken.

But I agree, 2011 will not happen without new terms. The owners have some built-in advantages in 2010 (6 years for FA qualifying, low minimum salary, no salary floor) but those restrictions will look less intimidating when everyone is a free agent. From an egghead perspective, it would be a fascinating prospect. Charley Finley would have finally have his chance to be proven right.

Start of Baseball Free Agency

PB, no CBA == no college draft.....not a good thing IMHO.

That's potentially the most serious problem. An owner willing to outbid everybody else could sign every single notable college prospect. There's no way that the NFL is going to let the 2011 season happen without a CBA.

No way the NFL goes the way of baseball..If it happens, this is the end of American sports. NBA is fucked up salary wise, but still has a deece cap. The NFL rules by the cap (else the Pack would be a shittier version of the Brewers cap wise)...and baseball is joke too. No way this gets so bad the cap goes away. If so, fuck the NFL. WE WON'T BE RELEVANT.