Breaking News: Steve McNair DEAD!

[GrnBay007]

Salmani, who was raised as Kazemi's sister, also said that McNair had told Kazemi that he soon would be divorcing his wife.

"That's why she was like, 'OK, now you're divorcing. We can date,'" Salmani said. "He told her, it was going to be finished, the whole divorce was going to be done, two weeks from yesterday. . . .

That's interesting.

Multiple shots to McNair and only one shot to the gal shows whoever did it was angry at him....whether it be the girl he was with or someone else. I don't think they have to wait for autopsy reports to find out if she has gun powder residue so they should know that soon.

[woodbuck27]

Why is everyone ganging up on me anyway? Can't I just not care about these people in peace?

Hey SkinBasket we don't know the truth in terms of all circumstances.

We're all responsible for what we post here in this community we call Packerrats. Every post is open to scrutiny and subject to the most severe denunciation or criticism.

The big picture is that we can actually or hopefully learn and grow as members of this community and never lose ourselves in obsessive and indignant judgement. I believe that we all have room to grow.

The death of Steve McNair is too big a tragedy not to be cautious of how we treat the living in our thoughts over the deceased. The dead deserve a whole different and solemn respect.

I wonder if the dead don't forgive us of our sins far better than the living even as some slur them?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Why is everyone ganging up on me anyway? Can't I just not care about these people in peace?

Well played.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Sahel Kazemi and Sepidah Salmani.

Sounds Mooslim.

Homeland Security better change to Orange.

[Fritz]

My first thought is of how quickly pictures can fly around the internet.

My second thought, Tyrone, went in a slightly different direction than yours...I thought the posting of the pics would spark a discussion that would soon devolve into an argument over how hot the chick was.

[mraynrand]

Sahel Kazemi and Sepidah Salmani.

Sounds Mooslim.

Homeland Security better change to Orange.

You will not be in Aqaba, English.

[SkinBasket]

Why is everyone ganging up on me anyway? Can't I just not care about these people in peace?

Yep.

Just don't think innocent kids should be brought in to it.

You're mistaking me stating my feelings concerning my lack of sympathy for the kids with something else altogether. I don't feel anything for them. I don't know them, and I'm not going to pretend to. I wonder how many people, if they were honest with themselves, would admit that they felt any of the emotions they've expressed here of sadness, sympathy, and grief. I know I haven't, so I'm not going to claim I did just to say so.

[SkinBasket]

The dead deserve a whole different and solemn respect.

Why? I refuse to romanticize the notion of death. Dying in and of itself does not change who you were and what you did while living.

[Rastak]

Why is everyone ganging up on me anyway? Can't I just not care about these people in peace?

Yep.

Just don't think innocent kids should be brought in to it.

You're mistaking me stating my feelings concerning my lack of sympathy for the kids with something else altogether. I don't feel anything for them. I don't know them, and I'm not going to pretend to. I wonder how many people, if they were honest with themselves, would admit that they felt any of the emotions they've expressed here of sadness, sympathy, and grief. I know I haven't, so I'm not going to claim I did just to say so.

Some people have empathy as a trait and some people don't. It's as simple as that.

I would imagine there are people who do care, right here on this very forum but many couldn't give two shits about other people when they haven't met them.

[SkinBasket]

Why is everyone ganging up on me anyway? Can't I just not care about these people in peace?

Not so fun to be on the other side of a "friendly debate", huh?

Oh, it was a joke. I'm secure enough in my beliefs that I don't need to get all complainy when my views don't match your sick lots'.

[Guiness]

Sorry, you don't KNOW he didn't care about them.

Wife/Husband and children are completely separate relationships. I agree if he was cheating he disrespected his children by doing so...but to say he didn't love them is out of line......IMO.

Doesn't matter anyway IMO.....back to the original question.....we should only feel bad for the kids of the "good" men?

ding ding ding - we have a winner on that one. The marriage can be over. That doesn't change one iota how a parent feels about his children.

Now to try and figure out how to comment on Rastak's empathy comment...

[cpk1994]

Salmani, who was raised as Kazemi's sister, also said that McNair had told Kazemi that he soon would be divorcing his wife.

"That's why she was like, 'OK, now you're divorcing. We can date,'" Salmani said. "He told her, it was going to be finished, the whole divorce was going to be done, two weeks from yesterday. . . .

That's interesting.

Multiple shots to McNair and only one shot to the gal shows whoever did it was angry at him....whether it be the girl he was with or someone else. I don't think they have to wait for autopsy reports to find out if she has gun powder residue so they should know that soon.

But they do have to do a ballistics test to see of the gun matches the bullets fired. and a matching of any fingerprints found on the gun.

[channtheman]

The dead deserve a whole different and solemn respect.

Why? I refuse to romanticize the notion of death. Dying in and of itself does not change who you were and what you did while living.

I agree with the bold but isn't it funny how it does change how people look at someone? Just look at Micheal Jackson.

[swede]

Some people have empathy as a trait and some people don't. It's as simple as that.

The empathy of which you speak is artificial and emotional.

Most people driving to work listening to radio news and hearing about a) a random murder-suicide and b) a random puppy hit by a truck are more emotionally moved by the latter, even though everyone would rationally agree that the former rather than the latter is the more significant event.

The only reason anyone cares is because certain neurons fired in recognition of the name McNair, an underdog hero, the tiny college long-shot American dream guy.

I still get more choked up about the puppy.

Real feelings of empathy are reserved for people who know his family. If you cried when you heard the news you are not automatically entitled to being called empathetic, but I can think of other adjectives.

[SkinBasket]

Sorry, you don't KNOW he didn't care about them.

Wife/Husband and children are completely separate relationships. I agree if he was cheating he disrespected his children by doing so...but to say he didn't love them is out of line......IMO.

Doesn't matter anyway IMO.....back to the original question.....we should only feel bad for the kids of the "good" men?

ding ding ding - we have a winner on that one. The marriage can be over. That doesn't change one iota how a parent feels about his children.

Now to try and figure out how to comment on Rastak's empathy comment...

Yeah, they're separate relationships which are both damaged by a guy more interested in banging some chick young enough to be his daughter instead of being a father to his children. And kids don't really view familial relationships in such a compartmental way anyway.

McNair died hunting teenage pussy. Not saving someone from drowning. If I was his kid, it would certainly change how I looked at him.