Breaking News: Steve McNair DEAD!

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Who knows why? It was her escalade...maybe she had stuff to do..or he had stuff to do. It was a long night.

Wise: Why? If she is sober..you think she suddenly can't drive? Maybe where she lived and he was going were completely opposite.

Bails: Again, you are framing it. You have no idea..so stop with pejorative words.

If she was mad enough to kill him..then it most likely was something far greater than this...this may have been the straw, but doubtfull. Perhaps he was breaking up, etc.

If this incident was the reason..then, she is a nutcase..and McNair was always in danger. What if he left the seat up? Forgot to buy her flowers? Forgot her birthday?

I just think it is too much of a ocincidence that she goes and buys a gun after the DUI incdent too pooh pooh it as a factor in deaths.

Factor is one thing, cause is another.

Like i said..if she bought the gun because of the dui incident and planned on killing him..then she was crazy and NOTHING McNair would have done woulda changed things....his actions woulda only delayed the inevitable.

[Brando19]

Here's some new developments from http://msn.foxsports.com/rumors/nfl

According to several NashvillePost.com sources, it is at Blue Moon Lagoon where Steve McNair's evening took an ominous turn. While sitting with friends at the restaurant (sources say that Kazemi was not in the party), a white woman in her early 20s, about 5-foot-4, approached McNair and accused him of slipping her a "roofie" a year ago. The woman then told McNair, according to sources, that her boyfriend was going to kill him. Roofie is a slang term for Rohypnol, a sedative dating back to the early 1970s that is used in hospitals for deep sedation, but is now a fairly infamous date-rape drug. After confronting McNair, sources say that the woman was asked to leave the restaurant. As of now, there is no known connection between the blonde woman's warning and the events that unfolded just a few hours later. It could well be an eerie coincidence. Still, Metro Police are interviewing patrons and staff members at Blue Moon Lagoon. -- Nashville Post

Brando,

Your post, and Rastak's subsequent post, have me confused. Was the "white girl" who approached him at the Blue Moon Kazemi, or a completely different woman?

I'm not sure about that. The way I took it...it was a completely different woman.

[Rastak]

Well, as to the DWI and it's effect on this case.....it sure seems to be a factor. Not so much him taking a cab home, as previously mentioned this would be normal if he were also drinking. He did later bail her out.


BUT

This happened on Thursday and from what I understand of the timeline....


1) She gets DWI Thursday
2) Buys gun after sometime after being released
3) Spends time away from McNair all day Thursday night and Friday (from what I've read)
4) The next time she sees McNair she's got a new gun and he gets his brains blown out.

The thing that we don't know is what words were exchanged between the two as the result of that DWI, during and maybe immediately after. Something triggered her to go buy a gun shortly after that incident.


People are saying she had no training with guns....look, she was already there when he arrived after pounding a few around 1:30 to 2:00am. Is it so far fetched she shot him in the side of the head, catching him by surprised then pumped in the rest of the shots?


From everything I've read it's almost certain she was the killer and committed suicide. It's possible the best hitman in the USA was hired to create the perfect scene including having an imposter buy the gun but I highly doubt it.

My guess?
1) She was either certain he was going to dump her shortly.
2) She was fucking nuts.
3) or both of the above.....

One thing is for sure, to shoot the dude in each temple meant she was REALLY PISSED.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Ty agrees.

Please keep this handy so you will be able to discern my mood after i shoot someone.

Ty shoots you in leg...mildly irritated
Ty shoots you in arm...peeved
Ty shoots you in pelvic region..annoyed
Ty shoots you in torso....angry
Ty shoots you in head...furious

[mraynrand]

Does McNairs' wife have an iron-clad alibi? I'm guessing the wife - or a hired gun - shot McNair and then 'committed suicide' for the 20 year old. I'm guessing the wife due to the number of times McNair was shot. Looks like a lot of hate there. I'm guessing hired gun, because the wife probably would have wanted to shoot the 20 year old multiple times - and then it no longer is a plausible suicide. The worst part about this whole mess is that for the next several weeks, Jen and Angelina won't be getting the coverage in the tabloids that I expect and demand.

The probelm with your scenario is that the door to the apt where they were was locked and there was no forced entry. A hired gun most likely wouldn't lock the door before leaving. .

This is sounding more and more like Roger Pedactor's homicide that was originally ruled a suicide. Just need the right detective to solve the crime...

[Cheesehead Craig]

Ty agrees.

Please keep this handy so you will be able to discern my mood after i shoot someone.

Ty shoots you in leg...mildly irritated
Ty shoots you in arm...peeved
Ty shoots you in pelvic region..annoyed
Ty shoots you in torso....angry
Ty shoots you in head...furious

Ty shoots down Soup as a viable pitching option... given up hope in life

[Rastak]

Does McNairs' wife have an iron-clad alibi? I'm guessing the wife - or a hired gun - shot McNair and then 'committed suicide' for the 20 year old. I'm guessing the wife due to the number of times McNair was shot. Looks like a lot of hate there. I'm guessing hired gun, because the wife probably would have wanted to shoot the 20 year old multiple times - and then it no longer is a plausible suicide. The worst part about this whole mess is that for the next several weeks, Jen and Angelina won't be getting the coverage in the tabloids that I expect and demand.

The probelm with your scenario is that the door to the apt where they were was locked and there was no forced entry. A hired gun most likely wouldn't lock the door before leaving. .

This is sounding more and more like Roger Pedactor's homicide that was originally ruled a suicide. Just need the right detective to solve the crime...

Sherlock Holmes would likely be required if someone were good enough to set this thing up so well.

[mraynrand]

Does McNairs' wife have an iron-clad alibi? I'm guessing the wife - or a hired gun - shot McNair and then 'committed suicide' for the 20 year old. I'm guessing the wife due to the number of times McNair was shot. Looks like a lot of hate there. I'm guessing hired gun, because the wife probably would have wanted to shoot the 20 year old multiple times - and then it no longer is a plausible suicide. The worst part about this whole mess is that for the next several weeks, Jen and Angelina won't be getting the coverage in the tabloids that I expect and demand.

The probelm with your scenario is that the door to the apt where they were was locked and there was no forced entry. A hired gun most likely wouldn't lock the door before leaving. .

This is sounding more and more like Roger Pedactor's homicide that was originally ruled a suicide. Just need the right detective to solve the crime...

Sherlock Holmes would likely be required if someone were good enough to set this thing up so well.

No, just Ace Ventura

[woodbuck27]

Does McNairs' wife have an iron-clad alibi? I'm guessing the wife - or a hired gun - shot McNair and then 'committed suicide' for the 20 year old. I'm guessing the wife due to the number of times McNair was shot. Looks like a lot of hate there. I'm guessing hired gun, because the wife probably would have wanted to shoot the 20 year old multiple times - and then it no longer is a plausible suicide. The worst part about this whole mess is that for the next several weeks, Jen and Angelina won't be getting the coverage in the tabloids that I expect and demand.

The probelm with your scenario is that the door to the apt where they were was locked and there was no forced entry. A hired gun most likely wouldn't lock the door before leaving. Then you take into account that last Thursday, the woman got a DUI, McNair left her behind at the police station. And Now, ESPN is reporting that Police say accodring to a nephew of the woman, the woman recently purchased a handgun. The evidence almost clearly shows murder/suicide. Ballistics tests should confrim this.

My guess is that he went to the apt to break it off becuase of the DUI, which would probably have blown McNair's cover. She couldn't handle the dumping, snaapped and shot him. Then she shot herself becuase she "Couldn't live without him".

Your reading too many homicide detective books or your bang on?

Trouble with your story it seems is I thought that McNair was away from home for a couple of days. Should it take him that long to call her out and the affair/relationship off. Maybe he complained over her cooking and that set the whole thing off?

We likely will never know. Murder -suicide.

Yes, but we really don't know where he was. But it seems more than just coincidence that two days before their deaths, she gets a DUI and he leaves her high and dry at the police station.

That isn't remotely accurate. She was busted THURS MORNING. They take her in. He posts her bail.

How hi and dry are you if you are out the same day and buy a gun?

He left the police station WITHOUT her. Who knows how she responded to that.

First, that isn't hi and dry. You don't want to start arguing like partial.

Left? What do you mean. At the arrest, she was taken in..he took a cab. He then posted her bail.

Are you suggesting that because he didn't go to breakfast the next morning she would be pissed?

I will concede to you on high and dry. That said, he wa at the police station with her. He then left the police station in a cab WITHOUT her. I would think that it would be wise for him to make sure she got home. ANd who knows what state of mind she was in or how she reacted to him leaving the police station without her. She was in love with the guy and he BAILS? I could easily see her being angry.

It makes sense to me that Steve McNair might want to keep her DUI and his married life as seperate as possible and if there was going to be a divorce not ram any affair down his wife's throat. So he posts bail money and leaves the station discreetly without the young lady.

The young lady would have been plenty satisfied with McNair paying to get her free. They meet up at her place or their place later and something flys really bad.

The fact her gun (the gun she purchased) was the weapon involved in both deaths isn't incrimminating of her necessarily.

[cpk1994]

No, just Ace Ventura

CAN YA FELL THAT BUDDY? HUH? HUH? HUH? IHAVE EXORCIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISED the DEEEEEEEEEEEMONNNNNNS. This house is clear!

[Deputy Nutz]

I talked to my good friend Cornolio who is still deactivated for some reason, but anyways. We confered that this might be the work of a professional.

Two shots to the chest then one in the head. Nobody shoots someone in the head and then pops them twice more in the chest.

Take the girl for instance, she just bought the gun, maybe she is fimilar with guns, but probably not. She would have fired those rounds in a rage. I could point to her as the killer if she jacked 6 rounds or 8 rounds with two or three of them hitting McNair and then spraying the rest of the rounds into the wall and ceiling.

Two shots to the chest, and one in the head, signature move of professional killers.

I am not saying she didn't do it, but I don't believe she did it until more facts are released, powder burns, prints, and more info about the crime scene.

[Rastak]

I talked to my good friend Cornolio who is still deactivated for some reason, but anyways. We confered that this might be the work of a professional.

Two shots to the chest then one in the head. Nobody shoots someone in the head and then pops them twice more in the chest.

Take the girl for instance, she just bought the gun, maybe she is fimilar with guns, but probably not. She would have fired those rounds in a rage. I could point to her as the killer if she jacked 6 rounds or 8 rounds with two or three of them hitting McNair and then spraying the rest of the rounds into the wall and ceiling.

Two shots to the chest, and one in the head, signature move of professional killers.

I am not saying she didn't do it, but I don't believe she did it until more facts are released, powder burns, prints, and more info about the crime scene.

Two shots to the head, one from point blank in one temple, one from 3 feet to the other....both chest shots were from 3 feet.


One scenario is a shot to the head that surprised him from 3 feet as he sat on the sofa. Walk around front then 2 more from that distance to the chest, then point blank to the other temple.


It a pretty damn complete job I'll admit.

[Zool]

I've also thought of the conspiracy.

Take her gun, shoot him in the head. Then put the gun in her hand and pull the trigger 3 more times.

[Rastak]

I've also thought of the conspiracy.

Take her gun, shoot him in the head. Then put the gun in her hand and pull the trigger 3 more times.

Yea, that might work but my biggest question is the complete lack of struggle signs in the autopsy, from what I've read.

Look, McNair has a few beers and doesn't suspect a thing so he gets shot in the side of the head without warning. I get that. But how does this killer do away with her at the same time with zero struggle?

Ether perhaps to knock her out, then stage the killing before she ever wakes up?

It would have to be executed perfectly to go off with no evidence and no struggle.


edit: One other thing, she bought a gun a day earlier and it was the one used. How do you explain that? An imposter posing as her buys the gun as part of the conspiracy? That would be a helluva plan.


final edit: I saw the layout of the house and he was killed on the sofa, near the stairs coming down. If she descended the stairs he could have seen her and said hello then turned back toward the TV allowing her to pull out a gun and shoot, but a killer would have had to somehow sneak up on him after disabling her. I would assume the autopsy determined he died in a seated position and was not moved.

[Fritz]

Could she simply have been that pissed and that cold-blooded?

Crazy. Scary.