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Pretty good article on Crosby. I think he could be a top 2 or 3 kicker in the league...but he had some crucial misses last year. Look for 2009-10 to be a Pro Bowl year for Mason.
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Pretty good article on Crosby. I think he could be a top 2 or 3 kicker in the league...but he had some crucial misses last year. Look for 2009-10 to be a Pro Bowl year for Mason. -
For now, I am just happy he isn't the spokesman for the team like Longwell became. Also, that he isn't in the paper everytime there is a shift in the predominant winds that might affect his kicking.
But he won't get a grace period this year on late game kicks for the lead. I also hope the Packer's learn something from the Jon Ryan episode and embrace the concept of a kicking coach. Either outside or inside the org. One of the dumbest stories last year was the displeasure felt by Stock that Ryan might be considering hiring outside help.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow. -
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I'd rather have a guy who makes kicks, Don't really give a damn about the other stuff. Facts are facts and Longwell made em when they counted, something our young kicker had better learn.......Originally posted by pbmaxComment
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First step to fixing a problem is admitting that there is one. Longwell never got that far. Crosby is growing. That'll be a good thing, I think. I know I want him as my fantasy kicker!Comment
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I don't think Crosby needs a kicking coach. Remember also that the two times he had a chance to win the game, on e was a 50+ yard FG and the other was blocked. The former could be blamed on McCarthy sitting on the ball in that range and the latter could be credited to good play by the Bears special teams. I will give him a littel slack for those. MOre than I would for hooking 20 yarders anyway.Originally posted by pbmaxComment
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I have had him on my fantasy team every year he has been in the league. He has been very good to me.Originally posted by AdministratorComment
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shouldn't miss in the dome. Crosby really destroyed an outstanding effort by the D. Damn I hate when the Pack loses to the Vikings...Originally posted by cpk1994"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - WoodbuckComment
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Originally posted by mraynrand
The only reason that even was an option for the Packers was due to a special teams fuckup to allow Blackman to score. The Vikings dominated that game.Comment
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Longwell had two years below the FG average Crosby has had in his first two seasons. No one makes them all, not even Applebee's most reluctant customer. Longwell went several seasons without a game winning kick, it was the one flaw in his resume that Wolf repeatedly called out. As cpk notes, much depends on his teammates and the coaches decision about where and when to kick.Originally posted by Packnut
But as I said, year three is here and if his numbers don't tick upward, then his spot will be available. I don't expect Crosby to hit all the 50 yarders, but one of two would have been appreciated.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.Comment
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Except on Special Teams apparently!Originally posted by Rastak
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.Comment
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Yes they did - specifically their D against the Packer O. That doesn't negate the great effort by the Packer D - and a special teams play. I don't understand what your point has to do with Crosby missing a game-winning field goal.Originally posted by Rastak"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - WoodbuckComment
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Mason Crosby's first NFL attempt was good from 53 yards. He kicked a game winning FG with 0:06 remaining in his first game. It was a 42 yard FG for the win. He also had a 37 yarder to tie the game. As PBMax mentioned, Longwell went several seasons before he hit a game winning kick. He also missed some game winners.
Early in his career, the Packers rarely tried field goals of 50+ yards with Longwell. A lot of teams don't try a lot of them even now. The Packers run Crosby out there at every opportunity. In two years he has 11 attempts of 50+. It took Longwell 5 years as a Packer to attempt that many from 50+. Longwell seemingly has gotten better with age, and stronger. Last year he was 6 for 6. Of course, the dome helps.
Besides, if they had not attempted the 64 or 65 yard free kick FG, Crosby would have been 31/38 for 81.6%. He would have been above the magic "80%" level, and no one would be concerned. Crosby is one of only a few who would have enough leg to even attempt that kick.
Remember too that Crosby went into the 2008 season with a new holder and a new snapper than those he had in 2007. He had no opportunity to work with his holder in preseason, since Frost was brought in so late. He had a FG blocked in the first game of the year, with a new holder he knew for a week, and a snapper playing his first NFL game. Then, a little over half way through the season, his holder changed again. Yet, Crosby never even mentions these things (unlike a former GB kicker!)Comment
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TT should have brought in a high profile FA long snapper and holder."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - WoodbuckComment
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Scroll down further to the percentages by the kickers during the Vince Lombardi era.
It was interesting to see the percentages of Paul Hornung and Jerry Kramer were far lower than Crosby's. For football teams of that era most of the kickers were players who played other positions.
Coaches seemed to place marginal importance on the value of kickers in those days.Comment
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Oregon, I was thinking the exact same thing. In fact, if you look at the percentages over the years, they have gone up, gradually, over the years. The field goal has become a higher-percentage weapon over the years.
If you were a coach thirty-five years ago and had a fourth-and-two from the opponent's 30 yard line, my guess is that you'd be as likely to go for it as you would try a field goal, depending on the game situation."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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