Crosby displeased with 2008 performance

[rbaloha1]

Crosby has a nice stroke and powerful leg. Surprised by Crosby's misses in crunch time. Expect Crosby to have a monster year and a Jason Elam type career.

[bobblehead]

Remember also that the two times he had a chance to win the game, on e was a 50+ yard FG and the other was blocked. The former could be blamed on McCarthy sitting on the ball in that range

shouldn't miss in the dome. Crosby really destroyed an outstanding effort by the D. Damn I hate when the Pack loses to the Vikings...

The only reason that even was an option for the Packers was due to a special teams fuckup to allow Blackman to score. The Vikings dominated that game.

I seem to recall it differently. The way I remember it a ref read Arods mind and gave the vikes 2 pts. Another ref made a phantom holding call on college that even aikeman said never should have been called. And finally our kicker missed a 51 yarder off turf indoors on a perfect hold. Yea, you dominated.

[bobblehead]

Re: KIcker

For now, I am just happy he isn't the spokesman for the team like Longwell became. Also, that he isn't in the paper everytime there is a shift in the predominant winds that might affect his kicking.

But he won't get a grace period this year on late game kicks for the lead. I also hope the Packer's learn something from the Jon Ryan episode and embrace the concept of a kicking coach. Either outside or inside the org. One of the dumbest stories last year was the displeasure felt by Stock that Ryan might be considering hiring outside help.

I'd rather have a guy who makes kicks, Don't really give a damn about the other stuff. Facts are facts and Longwell made em when they counted, something our young kicker had better learn.......

Packnut...as usual your hatred for TT clouds your vision. Go back and check the first game winning attempt that longwell had. Something like 30 yards against the eagles in a 10-9 game if I recall and like a second on the clock. SHANK!!!! Yea, I know, a fan yelled noonan, the sun was in his eyes, and a reciever ran a wrong route....couldn't be longwells fault.

I wonder if you hated Ron Wolf when he cut a very reliable veteran kicker, drafted his replacement in the third round and then cut him for a street free agent named Longwell. I'm sure you were as consistent as the night is long.

2 seasons ago Crosby made them in the clutch (I know, he was inspired by Favre). Last year he didn't (Lack of leadership by Rodgers). One thing I do agree on, if he misses game winners this year he will be out of a job soon.

[mraynrand]

Re: KIcker

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I wonder if you hated Ron Wolf when he cut a very reliable veteran kicker, drafted his replacement in the third round and then cut him for a street free agent named Longwell. .

That's crazy. Ron Wolf was a great GM - he'd never blow a third-rounder on a kicker. That's bush league stuff.

[pbmax]

Re: KIcker

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I wonder if you hated Ron Wolf when he cut a very reliable veteran kicker, drafted his replacement in the third round and then cut him for a street free agent named Longwell. .

That's crazy. Ron Wolf was a great GM - he'd never blow a third-rounder on a kicker. That's bush league stuff.

Brett Conway can still kick in this league. But you need a note from his Doctor for a weekend pass to leave the facility.

[hoosier]

Re: KIcker

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I wonder if you hated Ron Wolf when he cut a very reliable veteran kicker, drafted his replacement in the third round and then cut him for a street free agent named Longwell. .

That's crazy. Ron Wolf was a great GM - he'd never blow a third-rounder on a kicker. That's bush league stuff.

Jacke wasn't cut. His contract expired and he signed with Pittsburgh as a FA.

[ThunderDan]

Oregon, I was thinking the exact same thing. In fact, if you look at the percentages over the years, they have gone up, gradually, over the years. The field goal has become a higher-percentage weapon over the years.

If you were a coach thirty-five years ago and had a fourth-and-two from the opponent's 30 yard line, my guess is that you'd be as likely to go for it as you would try a field goal, depending on the game situation.

I think it has to do with the change in kicking style. Back in the day a majority of kickers ran straight on to the ball and used the front of thier foot to kick. Now every kicker uses the soccer style.

Kind of like the Fosberry(?) flop in high jumping quickly raised the high jump heights.

[woodbuck27]

Re: KIcker

For now, I am just happy he isn't the spokesman for the team like Longwell became. Also, that he isn't in the paper everytime there is a shift in the predominant winds that might affect his kicking.

But he won't get a grace period this year on late game kicks for the lead. I also hope the Packer's learn something from the Jon Ryan episode and embrace the concept of a kicking coach. Either outside or inside the org. One of the dumbest stories last year was the displeasure felt by Stock that Ryan might be considering hiring outside help.

I'd rather have a guy who makes kicks, Don't really give a damn about the other stuff. Facts are facts and Longwell made em when they counted, something our young kicker had better learn.......

Ryan Longwell is still making a good show of his kicking in Minnesota in case anyone hasn't checked out his performance lately. He's back to form.

[Patler]

Re: KIcker

Ryan Longwell is still making a good show of his kicking in Minnesota in case anyone hasn't checked out his performance lately. He's back to form.

Longwell is ideal for an indoor field. He gets good distance on FGs, but lacks "power". He kicks long floaters. That means his distance drops dramatically in cold weather and harsh elements. It's why he routinely declined 40-45 yarders in bad weather.

He could enjoy a long career in Minnesota, and will do well.

[bobblehead]

Re: KIcker

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I wonder if you hated Ron Wolf when he cut a very reliable veteran kicker, drafted his replacement in the third round and then cut him for a street free agent named Longwell. .

That's crazy. Ron Wolf was a great GM - he'd never blow a third-rounder on a kicker. That's bush league stuff.

Jacke wasn't cut. His contract expired and he signed with Pittsburgh as a FA.

My bad...thought there was something about messing with Holmgrens daughter and he was cut. Either way it applies very similarly to TT letting Longwell walk and using a rookie.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Re: KIcker

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I wonder if you hated Ron Wolf when he cut a very reliable veteran kicker, drafted his replacement in the third round and then cut him for a street free agent named Longwell. .

That's crazy. Ron Wolf was a great GM - he'd never blow a third-rounder on a kicker. That's bush league stuff.

Brett Conway can still kick in this league. But you need a note from his Doctor for a weekend pass to leave the facility.

What are you talking about?

BTW, anyone comparing Conway career to Sherman's miss is ridiculous.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Re: KIcker

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I wonder if you hated Ron Wolf when he cut a very reliable veteran kicker, drafted his replacement in the third round and then cut him for a street free agent named Longwell. .

That's crazy. Ron Wolf was a great GM - he'd never blow a third-rounder on a kicker. That's bush league stuff.

Jacke wasn't cut. His contract expired and he signed with Pittsburgh as a FA.

My bad...thought there was something about messing with Holmgrens daughter and he was cut. Either way it applies very similarly to TT letting Longwell walk and using a rookie.

Yeah, you are right about certain details but wrong on the execution.

Jacke was most definitely not resigned. My god, why would you want to keep him.

[pbmax]

Re: KIcker

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I wonder if you hated Ron Wolf when he cut a very reliable veteran kicker, drafted his replacement in the third round and then cut him for a street free agent named Longwell. .

That's crazy. Ron Wolf was a great GM - he'd never blow a third-rounder on a kicker. That's bush league stuff.

Brett Conway can still kick in this league. But you need a note from his Doctor for a weekend pass to leave the facility.

What are you talking about?

BTW, anyone comparing Conway career to Sherman's miss is ridiculous.

The joke was that he's in the loony bin (that is the current acceptable term for mental health facilities, correct?) after multiple opportunities and failures despite a serious amount of talent. But if I have to explain it, its just not that funny I suppose.

Please someone supply the sad trombone link.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Re: KIcker

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I wonder if you hated Ron Wolf when he cut a very reliable veteran kicker, drafted his replacement in the third round and then cut him for a street free agent named Longwell. .

That's crazy. Ron Wolf was a great GM - he'd never blow a third-rounder on a kicker. That's bush league stuff.

Brett Conway can still kick in this league. But you need a note from his Doctor for a weekend pass to leave the facility.

What are you talking about?

BTW, anyone comparing Conway career to Sherman's miss is ridiculous.

The joke was that he's in the loony bin (that is the current acceptable term for mental health facilities, correct?) after multiple opportunities and failures despite a serious amount of talent. But if I have to explain it, its just not that funny I suppose.

Please someone supply the sad trombone link.

PB,

I got the reference, but thought you might have some details or a link. Ty had never heard this before. Or, are you just making a complete joke..he wasn't in the a facility?

Last Ty had heard...he was in the CFL.

[pbmax]

Re: KIcker

PB,

I got the reference, but thought you might have some details or a link. Ty had never heard this before. Or, are you just making a complete joke..he wasn't in the a facility?

Last Ty had heard...he was in the CFL.

Complete joke. And I suppose if it takes two explanations to be clear, that qualifies for an Epic Fail.