Aaron Rodgers - Best 4th Quarter QB In GB In Last Decade ?

[Chevelle2]

NFL.com carries stats on 4th quarter within 7. Let's take a look at that, shall we?

Aaron Rodgers, 2008, 4th quarter behind by 7 or less: 89.4

Brett Favre, 2008: 65.8
Brett Favre, 2007: 74.7
Brett Favre, 2006: 63.9
Brett Favre, 2005: 52.3
Brett Favre, 2004: 80.5
Brett Favre, 2003: 77.5
Brett Favre, 2002: 76.7
Brett Favre, 2001: 79.4
Brett Favre, 2000: 57.1
Brett Favre, 1999: 72.3
Brett Favre, 1998: 94.9
Brett Favre, 1997: 100.8

[Rastak]

Re: Aaron Rodgers - Best 4th Quarter QB In GB In Last Decade

NFL.com carries stats on 4th quarter within 7. Let's take a look at that, shall we?

Aaron Rodgers, 2008, 4th quarter behind by 7 or less: 89.4

Brett Favre, 2008: 65.8
Brett Favre, 2007: 74.7
Brett Favre, 2006: 63.9
Brett Favre, 2005: 52.3
Brett Favre, 2004: 80.5
Brett Favre, 2003: 77.5
Brett Favre, 2002: 76.7
Brett Favre, 2001: 79.4
Brett Favre, 2000: 57.1
Brett Favre, 1999: 72.3
Brett Favre, 1998: 94.9
Brett Favre, 1997: 100.8

Id like to see the Favre nut huggers defend this one.

Your fixation on the male anatomy is kind of disturbing....but hey, we all focus on different stuff!

[Administrator]

Chevelle, I understand the point you're trying to make, but please refrain from calling folks names.

This type of post inevitably leads to fights. I won't hesitate to shut it down if it goes there.

FWIW - I think your "statistical analysis" leaves out a few facts.

[Rastak]

In addition Chevelle, those are some interesting numbers. Can you shoot us a link off NFL.com? I couldn't find it but I didn't spend an hour trying to do so either.

[cheesner]

What is the statistical significance level for this analysis?
That is, how many games did this cover for each.

That is, you can probably prove Tavarious Jackson is better than Dan Marino, if you look at games in a dome, in October, when down 14 or more points, in the third quarter, outside temperature is below 40 degrees, on games played before 2 pm.

[pbmax]

I knew I was always right to blame Sherman Lewis.

This is little statistical evidence that among QBs there are some who consistently outperform their normal expectations late in games. Marino, Elway and Montana were exceptional in any quarter. And since Marino and Elway played a tremendous number of games, there comeback totals look amazing. But this the very issue that has everyone's panties bunched about Rodgers.

So its rebuttal evidence. The real question is how did they perform in the other 3 quarters as well. But no one at JSO wishes to discuss that topic.

[Bretsky]

Re: Aaron Rodgers - Best 4th Quarter QB In GB In Last Decade

NFL.com carries stats on 4th quarter within 7. Let's take a look at that, shall we?

Aaron Rodgers, 2008, 4th quarter behind by 7 or less: 89.4

Brett Favre, 2008: 65.8
Brett Favre, 2007: 74.7
Brett Favre, 2006: 63.9
Brett Favre, 2005: 52.3
Brett Favre, 2004: 80.5
Brett Favre, 2003: 77.5
Brett Favre, 2002: 76.7
Brett Favre, 2001: 79.4
Brett Favre, 2000: 57.1
Brett Favre, 1999: 72.3
Brett Favre, 1998: 94.9
Brett Favre, 1997: 100.8

Id like to see the Favre nut huggers defend this one.

Long ago I noted I would not reply to your posts due to reasons I stated then; I broke that vow once and here I am doing it again.

This tone is Bush League

That's all I got; hopefully I don't break my pledge again soon

[Chevelle2]

I apologize for the name calling. I will edit the thread, but honestly, Ive seen far worse here.

[Packnut]

Re: Aaron Rodgers - Best 4th Quarter QB In GB In Last Decade

NFL.com carries stats on 4th quarter within 7. Let's take a look at that, shall we?

Aaron Rodgers, 2008, 4th quarter behind by 7 or less: 89.4

Brett Favre, 2008: 65.8
Brett Favre, 2007: 74.7
Brett Favre, 2006: 63.9
Brett Favre, 2005: 52.3
Brett Favre, 2004: 80.5
Brett Favre, 2003: 77.5
Brett Favre, 2002: 76.7
Brett Favre, 2001: 79.4
Brett Favre, 2000: 57.1
Brett Favre, 1999: 72.3
Brett Favre, 1998: 94.9
Brett Favre, 1997: 100.8

Id like to see the Favre nut huggers defend this one.

A simple case of confusion my friend. Wins are the ONLY thing that matters in the NFL. Stats are for Fantasy leagues...............

[Packnut]

Stats

And losers...........

[Administrator]

I apologize for the name calling. I will edit the thread, but honestly, Ive seen far worse here.

I have no doubt that you've seen far worse. That isn't the point.

I highly doubt you've seen "far worse" in the first post of the thread. Rarely does the OP start the name calling before anyone has even had a chance to respond. That kind of sets an undesirable tone right off the bat, no? Haven't we argued Favre/Rodgers enough?

Also, under your "theory" we can never change this place if the only criteria used to judge a post is that you've seen worse...why does that make your post OK? I'm not buying it.

Thanks for the edit. I do appreciate it.

[gex]

Chevelle, I understand the point you're trying to make, but please refrain from calling folks names.

This type of post inevitably leads to fights. I won't hesitate to shut it down if it goes there.

FWIW - I think your "statistical analysis" leaves out a few facts.

Could there be any other purpose for this thread than to start a flame war.
Pathetic

[cheesner]

I knew I was always right to blame Sherman Lewis.

This is little statistical evidence that among QBs there are some who consistently outperform their normal expectations late in games. Marino, Elway and Montana were exceptional in any quarter. And since Marino and Elway played a tremendous number of games, there comeback totals look amazing. But this the very issue that has everyone's panties bunched about Rodgers.

So its rebuttal evidence. The real question is how did they perform in the other 3 quarters as well. But no one at JSO wishes to discuss that topic.

Performing better late in the game was never a trait that I admired. It only tells me that the QB wasn't 'giving it his all' early in the game.

And Elway having the record for come-from=behind-wins? A better QB would not have as many opportunities because his team is seldom behind.

[SnakeLH2006]

Snake is not gonna bash either ARod or Brett as I like both, but those stats are misleading, as ARod seems/seemed more under control (no big chances/throws late) which leads to a better QB rating.

Favre is the GunSlinga eh? He takes heat for his late game non-heroics (INT's) but he really won some games late for us at times. I gotta say, I like Arod and think he'll be great, but that was the biggest rip on Arod last year (too conservative in crunch time with the game on the line). The losses weren't necessarily his fault...mainly the Defense, but hey, he really didn't do much to WIN the game either...looked pretty pansy at times from what Snake and his gameday crew saw. Needs to attack a bit more, but hey...he'll get there someday.

I didn't get the vibe (we are gonna win) with the safe 3 yard passes to the RB's out the flat, vs. "fuck it" let's try to win and make some bombs happen to win this sucker. That makes it exciting and fun to watch.

Rip on Favre all ya want, I really felt we had a chance late in the game for 15 years, cuz he didn't give a rip if he got picked with a min. left if he thought he could win it. It didn't work out alot, but I hope ARod gets a more of a Killer Instinct in 2009 late games down by a TD.

You are down by 7......go out in blaze of glory?..or does the world end with a whimper and not a bang? If you are gonna lose, at least go balls out to win that sucker. That's all. And don't date Jessica Simpson...

[HarveyWallbangers]

I didn't get the vibe (we are gonna win) with the safe 3 yard passes to the RB's out the flat, vs. "fuck it" let's try to win and make some bombs happen to win this sucker. That makes it exciting and fun to watch.

Rip on Favre all ya want, I really felt we had a chance late in the game for 15 years, cuz he didn't give a rip if he got picked with a min. left if he thought he could win it. It didn't work out alot, but I hope ARod gets a more of a Killer Instinct in 2009 late games down by a TD.

You are down by 7......go out in blaze of glory?..or does the world end with a whimper and not a bang? If you are gonna lose, at least go balls out to win that sucker. That's all. And don't date Jessica Simpson...

Rodgers took plenty of chances when he had to at the end of games. He threw 2 or 3 late game interceptions down the field. Problem is the defense put him in too many of those situations--many times after he had put the Packers ahead or tied the game in the final 6 minutes.