PLAXICO BURRESS...

[MOBB DEEP]

consider this: his gun WAS registered in florida so he wasnt completely delinquent

its hard for me to imagine he actually considered what he was doing was SO criminal (i.e., i dont think he knew about the stringent gun control laws in NY which are pretty much the toughest in the nation)

so its not stupidity as much as it is ignorance; ignorance to the fact that he was a felon AS SOON as he crossed over from jersey to manhattan

personally, i wouldnt go ANY WHERE where i feel i need a weapon if i were in his position (kobe doesnt, neither does tigger or king james, KG and the like)

and pb is right SC, very few of these guys are truly "thugs" so shut up with ur assumptions; i just dont agree that the hard core law was put in place for situations like plax's....cats in flatbush and queens were the target back in the day, not guys like plax darnit

i know ALOT of white america cant wait to persecute the same guys whose highlights they watched the day before, bamas should stick to nascar if they cant stomach bruthas with shortcomings geting paid or realize pro sports is nuthn but a microcosm of country (fallable ppl in EVERY walk of life)

my support of both plax and vick da great is a result of my forgiving spirit and my cursory knowledge of their pain and lack of role model from adolescence - i AM atherapist for crying out loud so i can express empathy while others hate because of self loathing

i hav empathy for matt jones too so shut up SC

ive been called by many the "champion of the underdog" which isnt the worse legacy one can leave

Not that I care what color his is, but why not get behind a class act like Driver that is a positive role model, and hasn't shot himself in the leg or killed a bunch of Harlan's cousins in some twisted blood sport? I can't get behind Matt Jones. For one thing - he sucks.

what do you mean by "get behind?"



EVERYONE loves driver (except rogue cops) and the walter payton-types, me included

just b/c i believe in forgiveness (the bible says we should forgive folk 7 x 70 times) and am interested in ppl's pysche in conjunction with their behavior doesnt mean i "get behind" their foolishness or excuse it; i wish we could all be like tony dungy (i "get behind him" by buying all of his books) but as long as we're in this world ther will be calamity

i dont just look at anti-social behaviors and name the individual stupid or a "thug." thats too simplistic; if possible i to want to explore possible unresolved issues and tacit influences...imho, its important to know an individual's story before we make an assessment. of course no one has the time to dissect every pro athlete so its more convient to label and move on...

know that im not anti-white, jus pro-black ala jim brown

PB i didnt know registration was expired in florida..thnx for info

what would posses him to have unregistered gun anyway? is it hard to get one registered or sumthn? i guess the one's a few of my clients (closer to real "thugs" than these corny pro athletes btw) have gotten caught with arent registered? - he he...if DC law was like NY's cats would be going down like 90 going north

FREE PLAX.....he's no corner boy from the hood menacing society

[Spaulding]

What I don't understand is a plea of some nature being agreeable to both th prosecutor and Plax. Basically we have you by the balls by your own admission prior, we'll give you a reduced sentence (30 days?) along with three year probation and a huge fine (500K) that will be used to promote gun education or used by police to get automatic weapons off the streets in the NYC area.

Some will disagree with the rich buying their way out but I guess I see it as a win/win situation. Plax would be on probation and another violation would result in the book getting thrown at him. He didn't harm anybody (outside of himself) and although not the brightest bulb at the stadium, he doesn't have a prior thug like history.

I don't see him serving three years doing anything positive other than following a law which punishes him longer than some manslaughter culprits, thieves, and/or rapists.

Wish the same logic could be used with Vick to some extent. Fine him a large sum of money and/or if latches on an NFL team again, garnish his wages to help pay for some humane society shelters. Maybe from his past transgressions some good (i.e. saving other animals) can come from it.

[Pugger]

I'm a guns rights advocate and I believe he should serve whatever sentence a judge gives him.

He broke the law of NY and the rule of the gun.



Zardoz demands justice!

Ewww! I just lost my appetite!

[MOBB DEEP]

in a word, SCREWED

career could be over for a stupid move that harmed no one but self. i agree with roger cossack who said, "prison is for bad ppl who do bad things. NOT for ppl who do stupid things"

again, the law wasnt made for cats in his situation (fear of being a target) it was meant for predators (those looking for targets). SPIRIT of the law darnit! as i always contend, disrespect of womanhood (wives and girlfriends) is worse imho than some of the well-publicized transgressions of some of these athletes

i think less than a year and stiff probation AT MOST would have sufficed

dayum

[Merlin]

The time doesn't fit the crime. I understand carrying a concealed weapon is a serious charge in New York and he should be punished but to what extent? He lost his job and may never get it back. Many states have conceal carry laws so it isn't like he is going against some moral or ethical standard. He embarrassed himself by shooting - himself.

He shot himself, the guy should never be allowed to carry a gun again. If he gets caught again, then throw the book at him. I say suspended sentence, 2 year probation, and leave the guy alone. The NFL should suspend him for a month since manslaughter is only worth 1 year.

[MOBB DEEP]

The NFL should suspend him for a month since manslaughter is only worth 1 year.

agreed, and i THINK goddell plans to leave it alone after prison term served

[MichiganPackerFan]

He deserved to pay some time, not for the gun or the interstate, but for being an idiot. Maybe there needs to be a special centralized prison for idiots and their punishment should be having to spend a length of time with eachother.

[MOBB DEEP]

lol

[Pugger]

Plax was carrying a loaded concealed weapon without a valid permit. And in NY they throw the book at you. It may seem severe to some but that's the law over there. Maybe this will teach others to use more caution and common sense when it comes to gun use.

[SnakeLH2006]

So let Snake get this all straight.....Plax gets 2 years in prison on a "generous" plea deal for shooting himself accidentally (while harming no one but himself)... yet Dante Stallworth got 30 days in a local jail for getting wasted (his choice) for killing a man while driving drunk....?? Wow. Just wow.

Snake's Take:

Throw it all out the window...It's subjective shit, but Dante is prob. a better person overall till their "escapades" yet the bottom line is the law wins, eh?

Plax is a moron, has been a deadbeat dad, and borderline thug. Dante is a murderer. His actions were not intentional, nor were Plax's, yet Plax harmed himself...Dante's actions were not an accident, he broke the law by driving drunk and killed some dude (and prob. ruined his family to boot). An accident is an accident...so Dante's actions are preordained with his act to drive wasted. That is not an accident. He was drunk, and caused a loss of a human life. Plax shot himself accidentally. This is just incredible with the bereaucracy of our legal system.

Lesson learned:

Lock up the moron long term in prison. Let the murderer skate with a tap on the wrist. That is FUCKED! Only in America I guess. That is pure BS.

[Gunakor]

So let Snake get this all straight.....Plax gets 2 years in prison on a "generous" plea deal for shooting himself accidentally (while harming no one but himself)... yet Dante Stallworth got 30 days in a local jail for getting wasted (his choice) for killing a man while driving drunk....?? Wow. Just wow.

Snake's Take:

Throw it all out the window...It's subjective shit, but Dante is prob. a better person overall till their "escapades" yet the bottom line is the law wins, eh?

Plax is a moron, has been a deadbeat dad, and borderline thug. Dante is a murderer. His actions were not intentional, nor were Plax's, yet Plax harmed himself...Dante's actions were not an accident, he broke the law by driving drunk and killed some dude (and prob. ruined his family to boot). An accident is an accident...so Dante's actions are preordained with his act to drive wasted. That is not an accident. He was drunk, and caused a loss of a human life. Plax shot himself accidentally. This is just incredible with the bereaucracy of our legal system.

Lesson learned:

Lock up the moron long term in prison. Let the murderer skate with a tap on the wrist. That is FUCKED! Only in America I guess. That is pure BS.

As was mentioned previously in this thread, Plax is not serving one single day in jail for shooting himself. Not a single one. He is serving time for carrying a concealed weapon in New York City, and I'm pretty sure he wasn't carrying one by accident.

Besides that, there wasn't much else the judge could have done. The law in NYC is very strict about this.

[SnakeLH2006]

So let Snake get this all straight.....Plax gets 2 years in prison on a "generous" plea deal for shooting himself accidentally (while harming no one but himself)... yet Dante Stallworth got 30 days in a local jail for getting wasted (his choice) for killing a man while driving drunk....?? Wow. Just wow.

Snake's Take:

Throw it all out the window...It's subjective shit, but Dante is prob. a better person overall till their "escapades" yet the bottom line is the law wins, eh?

Plax is a moron, has been a deadbeat dad, and borderline thug. Dante is a murderer. His actions were not intentional, nor were Plax's, yet Plax harmed himself...Dante's actions were not an accident, he broke the law by driving drunk and killed some dude (and prob. ruined his family to boot). An accident is an accident...so Dante's actions are preordained with his act to drive wasted. That is not an accident. He was drunk, and caused a loss of a human life. Plax shot himself accidentally. This is just incredible with the bereaucracy of our legal system.

Lesson learned:

Lock up the moron long term in prison. Let the murderer skate with a tap on the wrist. That is FUCKED! Only in America I guess. That is pure BS.

As was mentioned previously in this thread, Plax is not serving one single day in jail for shooting himself. Not a single one. He is serving time for carrying a concealed weapon in New York City, and I'm pretty sure he wasn't carrying one by accident.

Besides that, there wasn't much else the judge could have done. The law in NYC is very strict about this.

NYC is the justice worldwide: Plax gets 2 years. Dante 30 days.

Thanks. My bad, Gunakor.

JUSTICE FUCKING SERVED and America is not BLIND cuz NYC said so....

[Gunakor]

So let Snake get this all straight.....Plax gets 2 years in prison on a "generous" plea deal for shooting himself accidentally (while harming no one but himself)... yet Dante Stallworth got 30 days in a local jail for getting wasted (his choice) for killing a man while driving drunk....?? Wow. Just wow.

Snake's Take:

Throw it all out the window...It's subjective shit, but Dante is prob. a better person overall till their "escapades" yet the bottom line is the law wins, eh?

Plax is a moron, has been a deadbeat dad, and borderline thug. Dante is a murderer. His actions were not intentional, nor were Plax's, yet Plax harmed himself...Dante's actions were not an accident, he broke the law by driving drunk and killed some dude (and prob. ruined his family to boot). An accident is an accident...so Dante's actions are preordained with his act to drive wasted. That is not an accident. He was drunk, and caused a loss of a human life. Plax shot himself accidentally. This is just incredible with the bereaucracy of our legal system.

Lesson learned:

Lock up the moron long term in prison. Let the murderer skate with a tap on the wrist. That is FUCKED! Only in America I guess. That is pure BS.

As was mentioned previously in this thread, Plax is not serving one single day in jail for shooting himself. Not a single one. He is serving time for carrying a concealed weapon in New York City, and I'm pretty sure he wasn't carrying one by accident.

Besides that, there wasn't much else the judge could have done. The law in NYC is very strict about this.

NYC is the justice worldwide: Plax gets 2 years. Dante 30 days.

Thanks. My bad, Gunakor.

JUSTICE FUCKING SERVED cuz NYC said so....

It doesn't matter Snake, that's all I'm saying. The law is what it is where it is. If you break it, you're responsible. And you get whatever sentence is appropriate where the crime was committed. The law and sentencing is not the same in each city in America. If Plax was a Cowboy and was caught in Texas, he'd probably be playing football this season. But he was a Giant, and in New York the law is tougher. Be a realist here Snake, it is what it is and Plax should have known better. It's not like he was brand new to New York. He knew the law before he broke it.

Besides that, Dante is no murderer. Video showed that his being drunk was not the major factor in that accident, rather the victims stupidity was. Had Stallworth been completely sober he'd have hit that guy and killed him anyway. What then? Is he still a murderer? Hell, in that case, I'd call him simply a victim of circumstance. I'm not excusing his being wasted, but his being wasted wasn't the contributing factor in that death. So no, I don't label him a murderer.

And I don't entirely disagree with the sentence either. What is the sentence given to a driver for a first offense DUI? Take the death out of it, the death was not caused by DUI. The death was caused by a dumb fuck running out into traffic. So charge him with DUI. Sentence him for DUI, not murder.

Hell, the family of the victim got more than they should have I'm sure, considering the deceased was more at fault for his own death than Stallworth was.

[Gunakor]

Plax gets 2 years. Dante 30 days.

The 2 years for Plax was a mandatory sentence. The judges have their hands tied, the law clearly states that if you break the concealed carry law (or ban, in this case), this is the time you are required to serve. No exceptions. What is it you expected to happen?

[Zool]

Plax gets 2 years. Dante 30 days.

The 2 years for Plax was a mandatory sentence. The judges have their hands tied, the law clearly states that if you break the concealed carry law (or ban, in this case), this is the time you are required to serve. No exceptions. What is it you expected to happen?

2 years is actually a plea down from the original charge. 3 years is mandatory on a conviction for carrying an unregistered firearm in NYC. He should count himself lucky to not have an additional 12 months.

Basically IMO this boils down to him being a fucking moron. If my options are go to a club with a gun or don't go to that club guess what. I'm not going there. Also, sweat pants? Really? You make $5mil a season. Go buy some jeans.