DeShawn Wynn

[hoosier]

I'd actually like to see all four of the RB's (Grant, Jackson, Wynn, and Lumpkin) make the roster this year. IMO RB is one of the most physically demanding positions and it never hurts to have good depth at a position like that.

As far as Wynn taking the #2 spot behind Grant, I don't foresee that happening. Even when he was the Packers leading rusher his rookie year, he looked extremely slow to play the position IMO. I'm not saying he didn't show spurts of talent or that he couldn't have improved upon that, but I believe Jackson is a better all-around back.

Wynn is faster than Brandon Jackson. Slowness is not his problem. If Jackson has an edge over Wynn it's that he's more mature, more dedicated, and more reliable--something none of us casual observers are really in a position to judge.

[Gunakor]

I'd actually like to see all four of the RB's (Grant, Jackson, Wynn, and Lumpkin) make the roster this year. IMO RB is one of the most physically demanding positions and it never hurts to have good depth at a position like that.

As far as Wynn taking the #2 spot behind Grant, I don't foresee that happening. Even when he was the Packers leading rusher his rookie year, he looked extremely slow to play the position IMO. I'm not saying he didn't show spurts of talent or that he couldn't have improved upon that, but I believe Jackson is a better all-around back.

There are some that think Jackson is the best all-around back on our roster.

I personally saw more from Lumpkin in very limited opportunity than I saw from Wynn in slightly greater opportunity. The only substantial gain Wynn has been credited with was a result of an uncalled blatant holding penalty (on Daryn Colledge I believe) against Chicago in 2007. If I were to make a depth chart based solely on what I've seen from each of them on gameday, I'd list Grant #1, Jackson #2, Lumpkin #3, and Wynn #4. I might even stash Wynn on the PS to make room for another ST's guy, particularly if it's a ST's standout that would otherwise lose a roster spot (a Jason Hunter type player). I am not a Wynn fan, and wouldn't feel comfortable using him in a game situation unless 2005 strikes again and we find ourselves using #4's and #5's to start games late in the season. But that's me.

[VegasPackFan]

There's a reason the Packers keep giving this guy chance after chance. In the NFL, it's all about talent. Wynn has it, they just need him to get the "rest" of the package put together.

[pittstang5]

(sniff....sniff) You smell that? Trade bait.

[KYPack]

I'd actually like to see all four of the RB's (Grant, Jackson, Wynn, and Lumpkin) make the roster this year. IMO RB is one of the most physically demanding positions and it never hurts to have good depth at a position like that.

As far as Wynn taking the #2 spot behind Grant, I don't foresee that happening. Even when he was the Packers leading rusher his rookie year, he looked extremely slow to play the position IMO. I'm not saying he didn't show spurts of talent or that he couldn't have improved upon that, but I believe Jackson is a better all-around back.

There are some that think Jackson is the best all-around back on our roster.

I personally saw more from Lumpkin in very limited opportunity than I saw from Wynn in slightly greater opportunity. The only substantial gain Wynn has been credited with was a result of an uncalled blatant holding penalty (on Daryn Colledge I believe) against Chicago in 2007. If I were to make a depth chart based solely on what I've seen from each of them on gameday, I'd list Grant #1, Jackson #2, Lumpkin #3, and Wynn #4. I might even stash Wynn on the PS to make room for another ST's guy, particularly if it's a ST's standout that would otherwise lose a roster spot (a Jason Hunter type player). I am not a Wynn fan, and wouldn't feel comfortable using him in a game situation unless 2005 strikes again and we find ourselves using #4's and #5's to start games late in the season. But that's me.

Well, er, ah, No.

Wynn has two long runs in his GB career. Against Detroit in 2008, Wynn ran 73 yards down the right sideline for a touchdown midway through the first quarter. The TD run was the longest of his career and the longest run by the Packers on the season. That's an accomplishment in a regular season division game and that counts for something.

Actually, I'd rate Lumpkin and Wynn about dead even, but…

Lumpkin sat out most of two seasons of college ball with serious knee injuries. Last year, he was out all season with the bad hamstring pull. Wynn has had injuries going on too, but I think Wynn has a little edge on Lumpkin.

Trade bait? Sure, I'd take a 6th for the guy we don't keep anytime. Sort of the same way we got Grant from the Giants. Some team wants to get a RB and doesn't want to gamble on a waiver deal.

[SnakeLH2006]

The knock on Wynn during that year's draft was his work ethic and character issues, IIRC.

I've seen the injuries, but I have seen nothing that compromises his character. Have I missed something?

I don't think you've missed anything, as Tarlam! was referring to the scouts before the draft I believe. It's pretty easy to google a search on Wynn and his supposed "character issues" and "hard to coach" persona that led to his falling stock in the NFL draft. That was his biggest knock coming into the draft, as the talent is there.

Personally, Snake hasn't heard/seen any real character issues with Wynn since he came to Green Bay, although there were some reports he was pretty irate over getting IR'd his rookie year...but hell I would be pissed too, if I wanted to play.

[Gunakor]

Well, er, ah, No.

Wynn has two long runs in his GB career. Against Detroit in 2008, Wynn ran 73 yards down the right sideline for a touchdown midway through the first quarter. The TD run was the longest of his career and the longest run by the Packers on the season. That's an accomplishment in a regular season division game and that counts for something.

Actually, I'd rate Lumpkin and Wynn about dead even, but…

Lumpkin sat out most of two seasons of college ball with serious knee injuries. Last year, he was out all season with the bad hamstring pull. Wynn has had injuries going on too, but I think Wynn has a little edge on Lumpkin.

Trade bait? Sure, I'd take a 6th for the guy we don't keep anytime. Sort of the same way we got Grant from the Giants. Some team wants to get a RB and doesn't want to gamble on a waiver deal.

Forgot about the carry against the lions. It's easy to forget, I suppose. It's not to Wynn's credit that he can rattle of a 70+ yard run against one of the worst teams in the history of teams. I only remember one play from either of the lions games, and that's the long 60 yard bomb that Rodgers threw to Jennings. You know, the one that you couldn't have run up and handed the ball to Jennings any cleaner than it fell to him.

Let me amend my previous statement: Wynn has only had 2 significant runs in his career, one being a result of a blatant uncalled holding penalty on Daryn Colledge against Chicago in 2007, and one against the 2008 detoilet lions. Doesn't sound a whole lot better from my perspective.

Look, there's probably going to be a dozen backs left in the 7th round of the 2010 draft that can do what Wynn does. There probably will be a few who never get a shot in the NFL. Wynn is not that good. What has anybody seen from him at all that should warrant high hopes?

[SnakeLH2006]

Wynn overall is garbage. Snake remembers when Wynn got winded and got caught from behind on MNF....Madden got all over it as did ESPN and for good reason....

Wynn is not as fast as most of you think. Wynn has no speed after seeing him get caught like that. 40 times are misleading if you aren't in game shape.

[Patler]

Looks like Wynn is in pretty good shape this year. Per the JSO blog, Wynn has played at around 240 pounds with the Packers, but reported this year at 228 pounds. He hasn't been that light since early in his college career.

Perhaps the light has come on.

[SkinBasket]

Wynn overall is garbage. Snake remembers when Wynn got winded and got caught from behind on MNF....Madden got all over it as did ESPN and for good reason....

Wynn is not as fast as most of you think. Wynn has no speed after seeing him get caught like that. 40 times are misleading if you aren't in game shape.

It's not a matter of being as fast as much as it is a matter of being in shape. Not being in shape is usually translated as an attitude/character thing, since you're being paid to be an athlete.

[Waldo]

From Twitter:

tompelissero - Deshawn Wynn with a great blitz pickup vs. Bishop, sends the linebacker's helmet flying

[hoosier]

Well, er, ah, No.

Wynn has two long runs in his GB career. Against Detroit in 2008, Wynn ran 73 yards down the right sideline for a touchdown midway through the first quarter. The TD run was the longest of his career and the longest run by the Packers on the season. That's an accomplishment in a regular season division game and that counts for something.

Actually, I'd rate Lumpkin and Wynn about dead even, but…

Lumpkin sat out most of two seasons of college ball with serious knee injuries. Last year, he was out all season with the bad hamstring pull. Wynn has had injuries going on too, but I think Wynn has a little edge on Lumpkin.

Trade bait? Sure, I'd take a 6th for the guy we don't keep anytime. Sort of the same way we got Grant from the Giants. Some team wants to get a RB and doesn't want to gamble on a waiver deal.

Forgot about the carry against the lions. It's easy to forget, I suppose. It's not to Wynn's credit that he can rattle of a 70+ yard run against one of the worst teams in the history of teams. I only remember one play from either of the lions games, and that's the long 60 yard bomb that Rodgers threw to Jennings. You know, the one that you couldn't have run up and handed the ball to Jennings any cleaner than it fell to him.

Let me amend my previous statement: Wynn has only had 2 significant runs in his career, one being a result of a blatant uncalled holding penalty on Daryn Colledge against Chicago in 2007, and one against the 2008 detoilet lions. Doesn't sound a whole lot better from my perspective.

Look, there's probably going to be a dozen backs left in the 7th round of the 2010 draft that can do what Wynn does. There probably will be a few who never get a shot in the NFL. Wynn is not that good. What has anybody seen from him at all that should warrant high hopes?

You could argue that the long run against Detroit should come with an asterix. Looking at the replay, once Wynn gets past the first down line and into the Lions secondary there's NO ONE pursuing him for the last 60 yards of the run. Either the WR blocking on the play was absolutely phenomenal or the entire defense just gave up. A more significant play (though not technically a run) was the shovel pass Wynn took from Favre and turned into a 30+ yard gain late in a close game against the Eagles in 2007. He bailed the team out on a 3rd down in what was really a busted play.

42 seconds into the video.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d8022c32b/Week-1-Brett-Favre-highlights

[KYPack]

It will be a real battle for that spot. Lumpkin is a good hand, also. But he has one NFL carry for 19 yards. And under the newly enacted "good plays against the Lions don't count because the Lions suck" rule, that carry was in a Lions game so it doesn't count.

Lumpkins main claim to fame is impressive. He beat out Wynn, Money Morency, and Herron for the last RB spot last fall. That's a big accomplishment for a FA RB.

It will come down to RB play, ST ability and knowlege of the offense, espec blitz pickup as to who makes the roster. My money is on Wynn, but I well could be wrong.

We'll see.

[Waldo]

Well, er, ah, No.

Wynn has two long runs in his GB career. Against Detroit in 2008, Wynn ran 73 yards down the right sideline for a touchdown midway through the first quarter. The TD run was the longest of his career and the longest run by the Packers on the season. That's an accomplishment in a regular season division game and that counts for something.

Actually, I'd rate Lumpkin and Wynn about dead even, but…

Lumpkin sat out most of two seasons of college ball with serious knee injuries. Last year, he was out all season with the bad hamstring pull. Wynn has had injuries going on too, but I think Wynn has a little edge on Lumpkin.

Trade bait? Sure, I'd take a 6th for the guy we don't keep anytime. Sort of the same way we got Grant from the Giants. Some team wants to get a RB and doesn't want to gamble on a waiver deal.

Forgot about the carry against the lions. It's easy to forget, I suppose. It's not to Wynn's credit that he can rattle of a 70+ yard run against one of the worst teams in the history of teams. I only remember one play from either of the lions games, and that's the long 60 yard bomb that Rodgers threw to Jennings. You know, the one that you couldn't have run up and handed the ball to Jennings any cleaner than it fell to him.

Let me amend my previous statement: Wynn has only had 2 significant runs in his career, one being a result of a blatant uncalled holding penalty on Daryn Colledge against Chicago in 2007, and one against the 2008 detoilet lions. Doesn't sound a whole lot better from my perspective.

Look, there's probably going to be a dozen backs left in the 7th round of the 2010 draft that can do what Wynn does. There probably will be a few who never get a shot in the NFL. Wynn is not that good. What has anybody seen from him at all that should warrant high hopes?

You could argue that the long run against Detroit should come with an asterix. Looking at the replay, once Wynn gets past the first down line and into the Lions secondary there's NO ONE pursuing him for the last 60 yards of the run. Either the WR blocking on the play was absolutely phenomenal or the entire defense just gave up. A more significant play (though not technically a run) was the shovel pass Wynn took from Favre and turned into a 30+ yard gain late in a close game against the Eagles in 2007. He bailed the team out on a 3rd down in what was really a busted play.

42 seconds into the video.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...vre-highlights

Did you miss the one man bulldozer known as Daryn Colledge, who was the main lead blocker on the play (Wynn didn't get by him until he was 10-20 yards downfield)? DC started at RT and put 4 defenders on the ground while out in front of Wynn.

[hoosier]

Well, er, ah, No.

Wynn has two long runs in his GB career. Against Detroit in 2008, Wynn ran 73 yards down the right sideline for a touchdown midway through the first quarter. The TD run was the longest of his career and the longest run by the Packers on the season. That's an accomplishment in a regular season division game and that counts for something.

Actually, I'd rate Lumpkin and Wynn about dead even, but…

Lumpkin sat out most of two seasons of college ball with serious knee injuries. Last year, he was out all season with the bad hamstring pull. Wynn has had injuries going on too, but I think Wynn has a little edge on Lumpkin.

Trade bait? Sure, I'd take a 6th for the guy we don't keep anytime. Sort of the same way we got Grant from the Giants. Some team wants to get a RB and doesn't want to gamble on a waiver deal.

Forgot about the carry against the lions. It's easy to forget, I suppose. It's not to Wynn's credit that he can rattle of a 70+ yard run against one of the worst teams in the history of teams. I only remember one play from either of the lions games, and that's the long 60 yard bomb that Rodgers threw to Jennings. You know, the one that you couldn't have run up and handed the ball to Jennings any cleaner than it fell to him.

Let me amend my previous statement: Wynn has only had 2 significant runs in his career, one being a result of a blatant uncalled holding penalty on Daryn Colledge against Chicago in 2007, and one against the 2008 detoilet lions. Doesn't sound a whole lot better from my perspective.

Look, there's probably going to be a dozen backs left in the 7th round of the 2010 draft that can do what Wynn does. There probably will be a few who never get a shot in the NFL. Wynn is not that good. What has anybody seen from him at all that should warrant high hopes?

You could argue that the long run against Detroit should come with an asterix. Looking at the replay, once Wynn gets past the first down line and into the Lions secondary there's NO ONE pursuing him for the last 60 yards of the run. Either the WR blocking on the play was absolutely phenomenal or the entire defense just gave up. A more significant play (though not technically a run) was the shovel pass Wynn took from Favre and turned into a 30+ yard gain late in a close game against the Eagles in 2007. He bailed the team out on a 3rd down in what was really a busted play.

42 seconds into the video.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...vre-highlights

Did you miss the one man bulldozer known as Daryn Colledge, who was the main lead blocker on the play (Wynn didn't get by him until he was 10-20 yards downfield)? DC started at RT and put 4 defenders on the ground while out in front of Wynn.

I just looked more closely at the replay and you're right, College does take out four Lions on that play. To be fair, two of the four get tangled up with falling teammates. Still an impressive lead to follow. If I had to pick a metaphor I'm not sure whether bulldozing or bowling is more apt.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-miss-plays/09000d5d80dacf19/WK-17-Can-t-Miss-Play-Open-Wynn-dow