Michael Vick? TT Is One of 8 Teams To Not Say No! Sign Vick?

[SnakeLH2006]

It's all over ESPN/news reports that TT MAY be interested:

http://www.statesman.com/sports/content/sports/stories/other/2009/08/05/0805nflnotes.html

NFL notes: Green Bay a potential destination for Vick
Texans suffer two significant injuries early.
ASSOCIATED PRESS
Wednesday, August 05, 2009

GREEN BAY, Wis. — The Packers might just be an option for Michael Vick.

Asked whether Green Bay would be interested in the scandal-tainted quarterback, general manager Ted Thompson didn't rule it out Tuesday.

"We're always looking to improve our team," Thompson said. "We look at all options at all times. I wouldn't care to speculate in terms of the odds or the percentages (of signing Vick) or anything like that."

While it's hard to imagine the Packers inviting another major distraction to training camp after enduring the circus-like atmosphere of last summer's Brett Favre unretirement saga, the case could be made that Vick would be a valuable asset.

Green Bay has a highly regarded young starting quarterback in Aaron Rodgers, but it has a pair of inexperienced second-year players, Matt Flynn and Brian Brohm, backing him up. Vick could bring experience to the position if there is an injury to Rodgers, who has been injury-prone.

And while the Packers haven't used the so-called "wildcat" formation, Vick's running ability could add a scoring threat to their backfield.
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Might not have read this...but even CWood wouldn't mind.

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/08/04/packers-charles-woodson-would-welcome-michael-vick-in-green-bay/

GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Now that the Packers aren't on the "Forget it" list for quarterback Michael Vick, Green Bay cornerback Charles Woodson says he would have no problem welcoming the controversial player to his team.

"Nah. Not at all. What happened with Mike Vick is unfortunate, but he's done his time. He's had to take responsibility for that," said Woodson, the former Heisman Trophy winner and a five-time Pro Bowler who has become one of the spiritual leaders of the Packers and is among the most influential players in the locker room.

"If he were to come here, we're all grown men, and we would have to accept him as a teammate, if that were the case," Woodson said Tuesday night before the Packers' scrimmage at Ray Nitschke Field. "To have him, that's another weapon. We understand that.

"We know that people have their dislike toward Vick. We understand that. But at the same time, he's a man. Men make mistakes. To have him here -- I don't want to speak for anybody, but I would welcome him.

"I'm trying to win a championship. So what anybody says outside of [this team], I don't care anything about that."

Green Bay general manager Ted Thompson said Tuesday he would not rule out Vick in a Packers' uniform, a departure from the norm around the NFL. Most teams have emphatically said they would not even consider Vick as a free-agent addition, much less sign him.
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Personally Snake has NEVER been much of Vick fan since VTech....either the QB or person....But his talent is maybe the top of the NFL as a player..It's pretty clear that Mike Vick messed up....BADLY.

What isn't clear is the team he signs for and how much......Mobb will be all aboard giving him $10 million to start, LOL, but realistically..Vick is megatalented and looks he's a better man now out to prove himself (Snake forgives him.....we all are human).

Per ESPN tonite, only 8 teams were still available for him to sign with in the NFL as EVERY OTHER team said hell no or equivalent.

I don't have that list, 8 teams from some hours ago DID NOT SAY NO to Mike Vick.

Snake loves his talent and would love to incorporate him (Vick) as a Wildcat option and Goal Line as he's a dumbfuck, but an incredible talent.

Been saying it for years (he wins at QB with a low QB rating) but does enough to win (usually 10+ wins yearly as a QB) but he should be a Slash type option (aka Kordell Stewart) with PR, KR, WR, RB, and a few QB options.

I don't like what he did (but he served his time) and would NOT mind seeing TT sign him to a 2 year deal (not 1 as we get little out of it....maybe 2 years and 6 million overall with incentives if he starts at QB)....

That's not a lot of money cuz we have shitloads of salary cap space even now. But hell, think of the possibilities of Vick subbing out for Arod in a Wildcat formation....or Vick at RB as an option goalline. Damn.

Snake loves dogs. But I'd forgive it to give us an incredible option in the Red Zone. ARod behind center with Vick at RB....Run some option shit, or whatever....score at will with the pitch either run or pass.

Gotta like that. He paid his dues. Sign the guy. TT looks like he's amiable to it as there's only 8 teams left via ESPN that haven't said, "No, he's not an option." Sign him up. Thus the poll. But either way....wouldn't shock Snake if the TT signed him (and prob. locks him to a 2 year multi year deal to get us the most out of it).

Thoughts? He'd (Vick) be a terror with ARod...

5 Snaps as a sub QB, 10 as RB, 5 as WR......phenom as KR/PR.....much money's worth IMO. Sign that dog-killing SOB!

This is much better as he'd need at least a year to adjust, no team wants him to start at QB this year..give him a 2 year deal to pan out what he can do....Always thought he'd be much better just playing QB in spots, but a terror at RB, WR (with his speed/passing ability) and at PR/KR?

Nay or yay?

Snake wouldn't mind at a price (albeit reasonable and if we could get him for more than tryout....more than 1 year)...

[Tarlam!]

Re: Michael Vick? TT Is One of 8 Teams To Not Say No! Sign V

http://www.statesman.com/sports/content/sports/stories/other/2009/08/05/0805nflnotes.html

"We're always looking to improve our team," Thompson said. "We look at all options at all times. I wouldn't care to speculate in terms of the odds or the percentages (of signing Vick) or anything like that."

This is and should be the standard response from TT when asked about ANY potential player additon. Anything else would probably cause unrest in the locker room or be some type of distraction.

"If he were to come here, we're all grown men, and we would have to accept him as a teammate, if that were the case," ..."To have him, that's another weapon. We understand that...."I'm trying to win a championship. So what anybody says outside of [this team], I don't care anything about that."

This is a very professional public statement, IMO. There is little chance of offending anyone with these comments. Man, I'm really stoked that this mature DB is playing for the Pack.

[Tarlam!]

As for my 2 cents on TT acquiring Vick, I voted no, thank you. I can't imagine the guy being the Green Bay, WI. type. I think he'd be a time bomb in a place where Applebee's has been described as the chicest restaurant in town (pathetic parting words from a has-been kicker).

[SnakeLH2006]

Re: Michael Vick? TT Is One of 8 Teams To Not Say No! Sign V

http://www.statesman.com/sports/content/sports/stories/other/2009/08/05/0805nflnotes.html

"We're always looking to improve our team," Thompson said. "We look at all options at all times. I wouldn't care to speculate in terms of the odds or the percentages (of signing Vick) or anything like that."

This is and should be the standard response from TT when asked about ANY potential player additon. Anything else would probably cause unrest in the locker room or be some type of distraction.

"If he were to come here, we're all grown men, and we would have to accept him as a teammate, if that were the case," ..."To have him, that's another weapon. We understand that...."I'm trying to win a championship. So what anybody says outside of [this team], I don't care anything about that."

This is a very professional public statement, IMO. There is little chance of offending anyone with these comments. Man, I'm really stoked that this mature DB is playing for the Pack.

LOL. Tarlam! as TT's vanilla quotes are legendary. CWood is a leader/real man..Neither surprises Snake as that is what they are/were gonna say if a nuke went off and killed billions. Those quotes are the same stuff no matter what....

Tarlam! you are full of opinions, though, or at least I thought? What do you think? I hated Vick for a long time...but on the cheap, this makes the Pack potent. Personally, I feel he served his time, and according to Dungy is much changed. I'm with it. Sign the dude for cheap. What a weapon. Where do you stand Tarlam! as PackerRats hinges on this. Love ya man either way. Peace bro. LOL.

[SnakeLH2006]

As for my 2 cents on TT acquiring Vick, I voted no, thank you. I can't imagine the guy being the Green Bay, WI. type. I think he'd be a time bomb in a place where Applebee's has been described as the chicest restaurant in town (pathetic parting words from a has-been kicker).

Longwell has German heritage. And..Snake LOVES Appelebee's. 2 for 20 (get 2 entrees with appetizers)...can't beat that. Damn.

LOL...but for real..Vick will be fine ANYWHERE in the NFL. He has no options.....and as a threat anywhere on the field. Fuck it. Take it on. He has nothing to lose....Probably the MOST talented NFL player this side of Gale Sayers. Incredible talent...10 cent head. That is fixable. Go Pack! TT might think so.

[Tarlam!]

I don't question Vick's athletic ability or his talent. He hasn't demonstrated much in the way of decision-making to me, either on or off of the gridiron. He just doesn't seem to be too clever, and we need talented, clever football players.

Vick also has demonstrated a decent sized ego. Let's say TT does sign him and things work out for, say, 2 months. the press gets all gooey, the fans buy Vick jerseys, the whole shebang.

Does Vick stay the humble, contributing Packer, or does Mr. Hyde come back and bite TT in the ass?

He may get you into the playoffs and then be the reason you fall apart. Is it worth the risk? Is he "the missing piece"?

I still say no.

[SnakeLH2006]

I don't question Vick's athletic ability or his talent. He hasn't demonstrated much in the way of decision-making to me, either on or off of the gridiron. He just doesn't seem to be too clever, and we need talented, clever football players.

Vick also has demonstrated a decent sized ego. Let's say TT does sign him and things work out for, say, 2 months. the press gets all gooey, the fans buy Vick jerseys, the whole shebang.

Does Vick stay the humble, contributing Packer, or does Mr. Hyde come back and bite TT in the ass?

He may get you into the playoffs and then be the reason you fall apart. Is it worth the risk? Is he "the missing piece"?

I still say no.

Tarlam! your opinion is of very few I take of solace on PR. But maybe you are looking at Vick as a QB? Snake is not. I'm looking at him as a weapon ANYWHERE on the field...As a QB, hell no....Maybe #2....he fucked up with the whole gangbang dog-fight thing....Sure... But i doubt he implodes the whole GB organization within months. Seems the changed man albeit at least a lil' bit. No way I want him as the face of GB, but as a KR/PR/WR/RB/change of pace at QB....why not? Can't hurt, no?

I seriously doubt Vick has ANY EGO left? Like NONE. He ain't Jesus (and fucking far from walking on water) but why not as a weapon? That's all I advocate...he'd be a beast...with no more cred than say a DD as just another guy who makes plays. Sounds like you think he's gonna cure cancer/or wants to with the jersey thing? Far from it...Just a guy who makes insane plays trying to get his football career back afloat. Snake has no probs with that on the cheap. Truly, I think TT, and Vick, know that he just needs to reset and move on...and start over. No prob. here....Let him do it (cheaply).

[Chevelle2]

Check out the poll

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/3649/picture7h.png

Interesting that

1) Minny does NOT want us to sign him

2) WI is very close, closer than i thought it would be.

EDIT:

Check the percentages here

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/fp/flashPollResultsState?sportIndex=nfl&pollId=75631

[Rastak]

Newsflash, Minny doesn't want you to sign anyone.....LOL.


I personally wouldn't care. I think the organization could deal with the protesters at every game but I'm not so sure the guy will be worth that much after almost 3 years away from the game, if you count this offseason.


For what it's worth, TT merely said he doesn't close the door on anything, he never indicated any interest.

[Bretsky]

not a Packer person

[Cheesehead Craig]

A completely nothing comment that the media is running away with. No story here, move along.

[cheesner]

If signing Vick will piss off PETA people, I am all for it.

[bobblehead]

Yea, daily protests, reporters shoving the mic in everyones face asking them about vick. I don't see how anything could go wrong with that, no distractions or anything. Lets resign Brent while we are creating a circus.

edit: Since the press decided to completely misrepresent TT's actual quote (which started with "Lets see, how do we usually address these types of questions" before he went into his canned response....should have been translated as "hell no, but I won't come right out and say that....ever....because if I always give the same canned response no one can know what I might do")

Now unfortunately since the press has decided to create legs where there are none, TT's next statement will be "We looked into it, like we do all FA's and decided that it didn't fit with what we are trying to do here". He will then follow by saying nice things about Vick doing his time and showing remorse, and wishing Michael Vick well....somewhere other than Green Bay.

[Fritz]

On the one hand, if Dan Devine was in Green Bay, why not Mikey Vick?

On the other hand, I would not sign him at the expense of Brohm or Flynn. He'd have to be signed as a kind of special position - but then who would you cut? A special teams guy? Where would you cut? A running back?

Let's just skip it.

[Pugger]

Boy, the press is really dumpster diving for a story here, aren't they?

There is a reason why Vick is still sitting at home waiting for his phone to ring. I can't think of many teams outside of Oakland that would want Vick and the baggage that comes with him. Plus Vick wouldn't be a good fit here in GB with the offense we run. This is one big non-story.