Michael Vick? TT Is One of 8 Teams To Not Say No! Sign Vick?

[Chevelle2]

Perhaps since we already HAD a distraction last season, we would be more able to deal with one again?

[gbgary]

All the reports are ignoring the what Thompson said prior to the quote: "What do we always say about questions like this...." He was dismissing it. Or it was the best soft pedal acting job I have ever seen.

yes...he was just being kind.

[Kiwon]

Personally, Vick has never struck me as a winner and leader despite the 10-year, $130 million contract he got.


'06-07 was his best year statistically, but he's someone who trouble always seems to find....

Woman claims star NFL quarterback passed along herpes in 2003 - http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0405051vick1.html



"Miami police are investigating NFL star Michael Vick after airport screeners yesterday seized a water bottle from him at a security checkpoint and later discovered that the bottle included a "concealed compartment" that appeared to contain a small amount of marijuana." - http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...71mexico1.html

[DonHutson]

Criminal behavior aside, Vick and his attrocious completion % seem like a terrible fit for the Pack's offense. And I don't see much point in creating special offensive packages and wasting the rest of the offenses practice time around a guy you haven't seen play in two years and who may yet be suspended for more games this year.

With those strikes against him, it's pretty easy to take the high road and let someone else take on those problems.

[ThunderDan]

8. I love the idea of him out of the back field, as a slot guy and a special teamer. If you guys think Rodgers is going to lose 1000 yards passing because of Vick on the team you're out of your mind.

Mission, I was pointing out that Vick from behind center averaged 3,200 yards a season running and passing. Rodgers had 4,200 yards in his only season.

Why do you take the ball out of Rodgers hand and give it to Vick? There really is no reason to. Do you want to take away the 40 yard bomb to Jennings just to let Vick scramble for 10 yards?

Unless Vick can take more than 5 or 6 snaps a game he really is a liability on the roster. Do you put Grant and B Jack on the bench to let him play RB? Which of the WRs would sit instead of Vick?

[Rastak]

Criminal behavior aside, Vick and his attrocious completion % seem like a terrible fit for the Pack's offense. And I don't see much point in creating special offensive packages and wasting the rest of the offenses practice time around a guy you haven't seen play in two years and who may yet be suspended for more games this year.

With those strikes against him, it's pretty easy to take the high road and let someone else take on those problems.

What he said.

[Packers4Ever]

Boy, the press is really dumpster diving for a story here, aren't they?

There is a reason why Vick is still sitting at home waiting for his phone to ring. I can't think of many teams outside of Oakland that would want Vick and the baggage that comes with him. Plus Vick wouldn't be a good fit here in GB with the offense we run. This is one big non-story.

Talk about the crowds booing if Brett returned? What do you think it would be with Vick? We have to forgive I guess, but remember, what Vick did was premeditated, he didn't just decide one afternoon to hang some dogs.

Is TT suddenly concerned about his QB's, that we won't have adequate coverage unless Vick is there to pitch in? I think he'd better show some
concern for his O line first.

Sorry but the whole idea makes me ill and I'd be willing to bet that TT
isn't really all that fired up about seeing him either. Not for Green Bay, no way !!

[Fritz]

I think they should sign him, but only if they put "Mexico" on the back of his jersey.

[Patler]

Sign him for cheap.
Showcase him for a year in limited situations.
Trade him for a first round pick, or more in 2010!

[3irty1]

I think Vick's best football is yet to come. He had moderate success as a one man offense in Atlanta. I wouldn't know who to cut to make room for him but I wouldn't sign Vick as anything but a QB.

[Waldo]

There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding as to the quality of Vick. One thing to keep in mind with him, unlike other QB's he did not pad his stats with checkdowns. He was the checkdown.

Numbers to chew on:
Adj YPA = (Pass Yd + Ru Yd - Sk Yd / PaAtt + RuAtt + Sk) How many yards on average were gained every time the QB did not hand the ball to a back
TD/Tou = (Pa TD + Ru TD / PaAtt + RuAtt + Sk) How many touchdowns on average were scored per QB touch (excluding handoffs)
TO/Tou = (Int + FL / PaAtt + RuAtt + Sk) How many turnovers occurred on average per QB touch (excluding handoffs)
TD:TO = TD/Tou / TO/Tou Ratio of touchdowns generated to turnovers lost per touch of the ball by the QB (excluding handoffs)

In other words, how effective was the QB at generating YDs, TD's, and limiting TO's:

Mike Vick (career minus rookie year):
Adj YPA: 5.8
TD/Tou: 0.039
TO/Tou: 0.031
TD:TO: 1.25

Brett Favre (2000-present):
Adj YPA: 6.2
TD/Tou: 0.043
TO/Tou: 0.038
TD:TO: 1.14

Aaron Rodgers (2008):
Adj YPA: 6.4
TD/Tou: 0.051
TO/Tou: 0.026
TD:TO: 2.00

Tarvaris Jackson (2007 & 2008):
Adj YPA: 5.80
TD/Tou: 0.038
TO/Tou: 0.036
TD:TO: 1.05

Jason Campbell (2007 & 2008):
Adj YPA: 5.60
TD/Tou: 0.025
TO/Tou: 0.024
TD:TO: 1.04

Jay Cutler (2007 & 2008):
Adj YPA: 6.70
TD/Tou: 0.039
TO/Tou: 0.031
TD:TO: 1.26

Eli Manning (since full time starting):
Adj YPA: 5.70
TD/Tou: 0.041
TO/Tou: 0.034
TD:TO: 1.22

Jake Delhomme (time with Carolina as starter):
Adj YPA: 6.30
TD/Tou: 0.045
TO/Tou: 0.036
TD:TO: 1.23

...........

Some facts without any analysis.

[Fritz]

Would people in favor of signing Vick be willing to let go of Flynn or Broh, I wonder? If so, which guy and why?

[Waldo]

One thing to keep in mind.....

If he were to be signed after Family Night, then brought up to speed slowly and not suit up for the first two PS games, finally suiting up week 3 in the PS, Vick would not actually suit up for a game at Lambeau until week 6 of the regular season.

The team is already in camp rhythm and the tone has been set. After Family Night they will be back into Lambeau rhythm and their fan relationship rhythm.

[MichiganPackerFan]

Would people in favor of signing Vick be willing to let go of Flynn or Broh, I wonder? If so, which guy and why?

Neither can win a game yet. Need to develop each (and I think both have potential) into trade value.

Getting Vick doesn't make any sense because he just doesn't fit this offense. I could see him ending up in Minn long before GB. I don't think he's right to lead a west-coast-evolved offense.

[Chevelle2]

Wayne Pacelle, the organization's CEO, says he initially was skeptical of getting involved with Vick but began to think Vick was sincere after visiting him at the Leavenworth prison. Rather than tape public service announcements for the Humane Society, Vick will speak to young people about his experiences and the pitfalls of dogfighting.

"We're tough on dogfighters," Pacelle says. "But at the same time, he's served his time and we're open to change. We want him to be a better person."

Pacelle, who also has visited Vick during his home confinement, recalls what Vick told him during their first meeting at the prison. "Mike said, 'I'm going to prove my attitude change with my deeds.' "