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  • Re: Favre

    Originally posted by Packnut
    Originally posted by Waldo
    Originally posted by Packerarcher
    Funny how most of you say Rodgers is so much better and you are happy Brett is gone but you keep re-hashing this,sounds like bitterness and jelousy to me. You all sound like you can't get over an ex lover.
    Rehashing this?

    It is a fairly big news event that Brett has signed.

    He sucked when he was here for the last several years, what is there to fear. MM figured out how to hide Brett's deficiencies. I wouldn't think so highly of Chilly and Bevell.
    Sucked when he was here the last several years? What a stupid thing to say. I'm sure several QB's would love to suck the way he did in 07. Hate Favre if it makes you sleep better, but please don't try to re-write history to suit your opinion......
    Right on. He dealt with a Coach GM who was dead set on excelling in mediocrity for several seasons, where the team overspent on average rather than upside. And despite that, still had winning season after winning season. The 2007 edition of Favre deserved the MVP, or at least serious consideration.

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    • Re: Big Deal

      Originally posted by Packnut
      He makes them a better team but still not a big deal. At this point in time, Rodgers is still the best QB in the NFC North and he has the most talented group of wideouts in the league period.
      ESPN did a stat where Rodgers is has the most experience in the NFC North with their current team. Cullpecker is still a Lion but Staford (sp?) should beat him out and even ol Daunte only has like 4 games or something with the Lions. Bear - Cutler - 0, Lions - Staford - 0, Vikings - Favre - 0, Packers - Rodgers -16.

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      – Benjamin Franklin

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      • Originally posted by Fosco33
        Originally posted by MOBB DEEP
        Originally posted by Zool
        To sum up my feelings on this whole buisness

        Fuck this. Play for the fucking Vikings. But don't expect all your previous fans will forgive and forget when its all over. Shit burger.
        lol..hope he doesnt slit his wrists b/c some of his past "fans" have jumped ship
        Wouldn't happen. He'd just about want to end it, then figure he's got another year left or so. Then after a few years of debating - he'd really do it -- buy the Gillette Mach 3 and even write the letter... But then he'd switch minds and go with the Schick Quattro (just to stick it to the president of Gillette).

        :P
        lol....actually, i think the best thing he said in presser was that its HIS legacy..other cats will leave a MUCH worse legacy than simply changing his mind ALOT....he's no dutch schultz for crying out loud; he's not even a whack republican teen-age girl loving bama like chumura. proper perspective is needed for folk to stop viewing favre as some sorta scumbag

        add this to his legacy too: he will get TT snake tail ("this guy" lol) fired in 1.5 to 2 years
        They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

        Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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        • Originally posted by MOBB DEEP
          Originally posted by Fosco33
          Originally posted by MOBB DEEP
          Originally posted by Zool
          To sum up my feelings on this whole buisness

          Fuck this. Play for the fucking Vikings. But don't expect all your previous fans will forgive and forget when its all over. Shit burger.
          lol..hope he doesnt slit his wrists b/c some of his past "fans" have jumped ship
          Wouldn't happen. He'd just about want to end it, then figure he's got another year left or so. Then after a few years of debating - he'd really do it -- buy the Gillette Mach 3 and even write the letter... But then he'd switch minds and go with the Schick Quattro (just to stick it to the president of Gillette).

          :P
          lol....actually, i think the best thing he said in presser was that its HIS legacy..other cats will leave a MUCH worse legacy than simply changing his mind ALOT....he's no dutch schultz for crying out loud; he's not even a whack republican teen-age girl loving bama like chumura. proper perspective is needed for folk to stop viewing favre as some sorta scumbag

          add this to his legacy too: he will get TT snake tail ("this guy" lol) fired in 1.5 to 2 years
          Sorry Mobb. You don't get to determine what your legacy is. It is what is passed down to the next generation. As much as Lord Favre wants to think that only his play between the lines counts anything he does off the field also affects his legacy.

          Why the hate for TT "snake tail"? I thought this was ENTERTAINMENT!!
          But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

          -Tim Harmston

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          • I have been surprised at how critical more and more reporters have become about Favre. The dance with the Vikings has pushed many more over the edge of exasperation with the whole story. I am surprised at how across-the-board critical the writers at the National Football Post are. Even the NFL itself, on its own website, had article titles that almost ridiculed the situation.

            Short term, that will affect his legacy. Twenty-five years from now, very few will remember how and why he played for the Vikings, they will just know that he did. Beyond that time his legacy will be his stats and the video archives. By and large, the Favre stories will be exceedingly positive except for a small percentage of grudge-bearing Packer fans. After they die off, none of this will matter.

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            • Originally posted by Patler
              After they die off, none of this will matter.

              That's why its so important that we teach the children.

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              • Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                Originally posted by Patler
                After they die off, none of this will matter.

                That's why its so important that we teach the children.

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                • Originally posted by Patler
                  I have been surprised at how critical more and more reporters have become about Favre. The dance with the Vikings has pushed many more over the edge of exasperation with the whole story. I am surprised at how across-the-board critical the writers at the National Football Post are. Even the NFL itself, on its own website, had article titles that almost ridiculed the situation.

                  Short term, that will affect his legacy. Twenty-five years from now, very few will remember how and why he played for the Vikings, they will just know that he did. Beyond that time his legacy will be his stats and the video archives. By and large, the Favre stories will be exceedingly positive except for a small percentage of grudge-bearing Packer fans. After they die off, none of this will matter.
                  IDK, if this had happened in the middle of his career, I would be more inclined to believe that. As it is, so much will be said about how well/bad happens this season. You think it will be forgoten what happened if he goes on to win the Superbowl, or if he gets benched and it ends his consecutive streak? Or what if Rodgers out-plays him this year and in 25 years people remember how HoF QB Rodgers overcame adversity in the Favre situation?

                  I mean, don't get me wrong, I think it diminish from what it is at this moment. I just think it is part of the package that will not be forgotten, much Babe Ruth's exit from Boston or Namath's prediction or any number of other memorable events that define how an athlete is forever remembered.

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                  • Originally posted by sharpe1027

                    IDK, if this had happened in the middle of his career, I would be more inclined to believe that. As it is, so much will be said about how well/bad happens this season. You think it will be forgoten what happened if he goes on to win the Superbowl, or if he gets benched and it ends his consecutive streak? Or what if Rodgers out-plays him this year and in 25 years people remember how HoF QB Rodgers overcame adversity in the Favre situation?

                    I mean, don't get me wrong, I think it diminish from what it is at this moment. I just think it is part of the package that will not be forgotten, much Babe Ruth's exit from Boston or Namath's prediction or any number of other memorable events that define how an athlete is forever remembered.
                    Ruth from Boston to NY was crucial to his overall career.
                    Namath's prediction was in a game that changed the NFL forever, giving substance to the AFL. Much more significance than a player winning one last championship.

                    If Favre is benched to end the streak, if he gets injured and is done, it will merely be an anecdote to how the streak ended. A player played a year too long. Nothing too exciting in that. It happens all the time. A team tried for one last ride on a future Hall of Famer, and didn't make it. Again, nothing very interesting or unique in that just a few years later.

                    Even if Favre wins a SB with the Vikings, not too many years down the road no one will remember the on-again off-again courtship of the offseason. No one will remember that he managed to skip two-a-days in TC. He won't have left the Packers to come to MN. In history the Packers will not be blamed, because they were right in 2008. At best it will be remembered that Favre summoned a good performance at the end of his career, but a few years from now it will not have much to do with the Jets or Packers, unless by some odd chance he happens to beat the Packers in the NFC Championship game or something. That will make a nice story, but not very crucial to Favre's overall legacy after even Rodgers is retired for 10 years. Favre's legacy will be his overall career, the three (to be four?) MVPs, the streak however long it ends up being. Specific regular season games will be interesting tidbits at best.

                    If Rodgers and the Packers beat Favre and the Vikings it will have even less meaning, because it is what was expected, with a relic at the end of his career! It will mean nothing in 10 years.

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                    • Patler

                      You may be right, but here is why I think it may stick with Favre. Babe is first remembered for his Home-runs and somewhere down the list is the Boston-NY thing. It was nothing he personally did and while arguably was the turning point in his career, didn't define who he was. Yet we still remember it.


                      Namath's prediction is remembered as much for how it exemplifies his persona as for the AFC-NCF dominance issue. I think this situation will similiarly define Favre, at least in part, for generations to come.

                      This story is uniquely Favre. I am sure you can find some similiarites to other things that have happened, but damn if it isn't one of the oddest sequence of events. Will people first remember his MVPs and his SB win? Mostly, yes. I still say this sticks.

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                      • Patler nails it.....

                        How about Bobby Orr to the heated rival Black Hawks? Fans forgive and forget by and large....so does the press.

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                        • Originally posted by Rastak
                          Patler nails it.....

                          How about Bobby Orr to the heated rival Black Hawks? Fans forgive and forget by and large....so does the press.
                          Point taken. Although, I am not sure the analogy is very good. Orr left via free agency. Orr did not leave while under contract and it did not involve multiple retirements, a trade with a no-Minnesota clause, a Grety interview, a clear statement of revenge factor, ect...

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                          • Originally posted by Rastak
                            Patler nails it.....

                            How about Bobby Orr to the heated rival Black Hawks? Fans forgive and forget by and large....so does the press.
                            Who's Bobby Orr?

                            I don't think anybody is going to forget the way Jordan's career ended.

                            Favre never reached the height Jordan did as an athlete, though his popularity did.

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                            • Originally posted by Waldo
                              Originally posted by Rastak
                              Patler nails it.....

                              How about Bobby Orr to the heated rival Black Hawks? Fans forgive and forget by and large....so does the press.
                              Who's Bobby Orr?

                              I don't think anybody is going to forget the way Jordan's career ended.

                              Favre never reached the height Jordan did as an athlete, though his popularity did.
                              I will never forget the way Jordan left the Scottdale Scorpions high and dry.

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                              • At least Jordan

                                1) Put up 20 points per night

                                2) Played for $2 million and donated all of to the victims families of 9/11

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