Why Im Not Scared Of Brett Favre

[hoosier]

This is exactly what I'm telling everyone I talk to. Bringing in Favre is bringing in more depth. Rosenfels may be fine but Jackson was not going to be. The locals pointed to a particularly bad practice last week and I'm guessing the game friday put Chilly over the edge on Jackson.

I find the reports on Jackson's development a little confusing. Didn't he return from injury late last season and perform very well in the team's final games? Does one poor showing in an exhibition game negate that, or has he been terrible throughout Viking summer camp? If he's been consistently awful this year, how are people in the know explaining the disparity? Was last December a month-long fluke? Did he somehow regress after appearing to have turned the corner at the end of 2008? Has he been feeling the pressure this summer with the Sword of Kiln hanging over his head?

Jackson simply couldn't throw the ball downfield with any type of success. He can throw the insanely short routes or dumpoffs to the RBs but that doesn't do anything to loosen up the defense.

Here is what he did over the last month of 2008:

Detroit: 8 of 10 for 105 yds
Arizona: 11 of 17 for 163 yds
Atlanta: 22 of 36 for 233 yds
Giants: 16 of 26 for 239 yds

If you look at his splits, his ratings are pretty consist between passes thrown for 1-9 yards, 10-19 yards, etc. A little lower for 10-19 but not much (75 vs 95 total). And the ratings go back up for 20-29 and 30-39. I know the perception is that Jackson is inaccurate and slow to react, but the stats from late last year don't back that up. [/u]

[HarveyWallbangers]

You haven't watched Jackson much. He's one of the most inaccurate QBs I have seen on passes over 15-20 yards down the field. I wonder if those splits are based on balls in the air or if he got credit for a dumpoff that gained those yards.

[hoosier]

The splits (1-10, 11-20, etc.) are a reflection of the length of the throw, though the total yardage credited to Jackson of course includes YAC numbers. On passes that traveled 11-20 yards from LOS he completed 48.5% (16 of 33), on passes 21-30 he was 4 of 8. Not a large sample, admittedly. By comparison, ARod was 55% on 11-20 (59 of 107) and 36% (12 of 33). Jackson's 48.5% for intermediate passes (11-20) is somewhat low, but it's not out of this world low.

[sharpe1027]

So this clears the way for Chilly to move on to Rosenfels if the situation arises.

Favre's contract has an out for the Vikes to release him due to injury or skill that would require a $6M payout. Not the full contract if he doesn't complete the season.

I'd love to see how that plays out.

If Favre wants something, history tells us Favre and Bus are not above putting the heat on an organization by playing whatever cards they have. Thus, if Favre wants to play, he'll make every effort to drag Chilly and the Vikings through the mud to get what he wants.

The Vikings sold 2,500 season tickets since Favre signed. Last year they couldn't sell out their games despite leading the division. You think it's as easy as all that? IDK, I think maybe you are oversimplifiying the circus that just setup shop in your town.

[HarveyWallbangers]

The splits (1-10, 11-20, etc.) are a reflection of the length of the throw, though the total yardage credited to Jackson of course includes YAC numbers. On passes that traveled 11-20 yards from LOS he completed 48.5% (16 of 33), on passes 21-30 he was 4 of 8. Not a large sample, admittedly. By comparison, ARod was 55% on 11-20 (59 of 107) and 36% (12 of 33). Jackson's 48.5% for intermediate passes (11-20) is somewhat low, but it's not out of this world low.

I've seen him for three years, and he's just plain bad on deep throws and not very good on medium throws. His positives are his running ability, decent touch on short throws, and solid on the slants, short in/outs, etc. It looks like the coach just stopped giving him the option of throwing deep. Hard to say from 4 completions. Perhaps those guys were wide open. What were his stats his previous years?

[Rastak]

The splits (1-10, 11-20, etc.) are a reflection of the length of the throw, though the total yardage credited to Jackson of course includes YAC numbers. On passes that traveled 11-20 yards from LOS he completed 48.5% (16 of 33), on passes 21-30 he was 4 of 8. Not a large sample, admittedly. By comparison, ARod was 55% on 11-20 (59 of 107) and 36% (12 of 33). Jackson's 48.5% for intermediate passes (11-20) is somewhat low, but it's not out of this world low.

I've seen him for three years, and he's just plain bad on deep throws and not very good on medium throws. His positives are his running ability, decent touch on short throws, and solid on the slants, short in/outs, etc. It looks like the coach just stopped giving him the option of throwing deep. Hard to say from 4 completions. Perhaps those guys were wide open. What were his stats his previous years?

What he said.


In addition, it certainly appears he can't read a defense or go through his progressions. These are comments I've heard and it makes some sense from what I see. Even Rosenfels seemed to find some open guys as the Colts did alot of blitzing last Friday.

[mngolf19]

So this clears the way for Chilly to move on to Rosenfels if the situation arises.

Favre's contract has an out for the Vikes to release him due to injury or skill that would require a $6M payout. Not the full contract if he doesn't complete the season.

I'd love to see how that plays out.

If Favre wants something, history tells us Favre and Bus are not above putting the heat on an organization by playing whatever cards they have. Thus, if Favre wants to play, he'll make every effort to drag Chilly and the Vikings through the mud to get what he wants.

The Vikings sold 2,500 season tickets since Favre signed. Last year they couldn't sell out their games despite leading the division. You think it's as easy as all that? IDK, I think maybe you are oversimplifiying the circus that just setup shop in your town.

But would Favre have accepted that clause if that was all he wanted? And again, Chilly will not let him drag the team down too far without replacing him.

[Scott Campbell]

And again, Chilly will not let him drag the team down too far without replacing him.

Famous last words.

[Rastak]

And again, Chilly will not let him drag the team down too far without replacing him.

Famous last words.

I offer no prediction but I will say self preservation is a helluva motivator.

[Scott Campbell]

And again, Chilly will not let him drag the team down too far without replacing him.

Famous last words.

I offer no prediction but I will say self preservation is a helluva motivator.

True enough. Though it didn't save the last guy.

[Rastak]

And again, Chilly will not let him drag the team down too far without replacing him.

Famous last words.

I offer no prediction but I will say self preservation is a helluva motivator.

True enough. Though it didn't save the last guy.

I would hope he learned his lesson......hint...."you're fired".

[BEARMAN]

ONE mention of lord faaaaaaarVe unretirering and NO more BEAR bashing ? WTF ?

You cheeeseeeaters hate lord faaaaaaaarVe more than Da BEARS ?

Common, ... Take ur best shot......

Go BEARS Go !

[Rastak]

ONE mention of lord faaaaaaarVe unretirering and NO more BEAR bashing ? WTF ?

You cheeeseeeaters hate lord faaaaaaaarVe more than Da BEARS ?

Common, ... Take ur best shot......

Go BEARS Go !

Is this where we hear a rousing rendition of Bear Down?

[Bretsky]

ONE mention of lord faaaaaaarVe unretirering and NO more BEAR bashing ? WTF ?

You cheeeseeeaters hate lord faaaaaaaarVe more than Da BEARS ?

Common, ... Take ur best shot......

Go BEARS Go !

Sorry Bearman; your team is a non issue in this division so you don't get much of our focus

When you get a WR or two and get Hester doing what he's good at then we'll be worried.

For now we have the Vikes and Favre to contend with

[MOBB DEEP]

yeah, i may be a lil weird but mean no harm

God created us all differently and loves us equally

it is foolish for anyone to allow folk in our lives (let alone strangers) to offend them or waste energy trying to win them over

u can take shots at me but it only speaks to your own issues; as i offend no one intentionally on this public forum meant for ENTERTAINMENT, not angst

now apologize and smile; God loves u

I'm confused how you can call people out for taking shots when you take off-hand shots all the time? Yours might be more subtle but they are very much there.

my bad

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