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  • #76
    hmm a pissed off player that said he will never play another down for the packers and we got a 2nd? good solid deal. Pepper was traded for a 2nd rounder and he is a franchise QB. Corey Dillon 2nd rounder. A second rounder is a nice pick for a one year wonder.
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    • #77
      TT let the crybaby have his way; gave him the easy way out.

      Javon Walker played TT like a flute this off season. I give TT no credit for that.

      Like him or not, Packer Homer or Not, Javon Walker was being recognized as one of the top WR's in the NFL before injury. And we felt that way; funny how soon that is forgotten.
      TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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      • #78
        I still say if TT hadn't had that deal fall into his lap on draft day, all we'd hear about is JWalk and his holdout--and you can't say that he wouldn't hold out because of the extra fine because TT had no way of knowing that they were going to make that particular adjustment to the CBA. JWalk would still be here threatening to retire, sitting out and no one would be talking about the promise we see in Jennings or R.Martin or if the o-line kids are gonna handle it or how AJ will do. It would be all JWalk, all the time. I can do without that.
        "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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        • #79
          I thought Steve Smith broke his leg in the first game of the season in 2004 on Monday Night Football against the Packers and we kicked their ass
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          • #80
            nice 'tar, Green_Bowl_Packer

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
              nice 'tar, Green_Bowl_Packer
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              • #82
                Originally posted by woodbuck27
                Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                nice 'tar, Green_Bowl_Packer
                Yes ! Welcome to the PRIMO Packer Site on the WWW.

                POST often and long. . .

                but for GOD sakes don't post no sense - because we are used - to being
                confused.
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                • #83
                  Originally posted by green_bowl_packer
                  I thought Steve Smith broke his leg in the first game of the season in 2004 on Monday Night Football against the Packers and we kicked their ass
                  Pretty sure you are right
                  TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Tony Oday
                    hmm a pissed off player that said he will never play another down for the packers and we got a 2nd? good solid deal. Pepper was traded for a 2nd rounder and he is a franchise QB. Corey Dillon 2nd rounder. A second rounder is a nice pick for a one year wonder.
                    Best post of the night! But lets be fair, 1 1/2 year wonder.

                    The traitor is not exactly a youngster (28 in October) and is stupid to boot. He will be lucky to cash in on that deal the donkeys gave him. He might come back 100% but alot of those players mentioned besides rice's old ass where young when they got hurt and might have been able to recover faster. Either way I hope he stays healthy and sucks.

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                    • #85
                      Steve Smith suffered a broken leg ... not an ACL tear. Here is one of many articles describing the injury:

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                      Panthers lose WR Steve Smith to broken leg

                      CHARLOTTE, North Carolina (Ticker) -- Last season, the Carolina Panthers got plenty of breaks along the way in reaching the Super Bowl for the first time in club history. This season, they already are dealing with a tough break.
                      Wide receiver Steve Smith, the main cog in the Panthers' passing game, underwent surgery for a broken left fibula Tuesday and will be sidelined indefinitely.

                      "He's not out for the season, but anything after that, I don't know at this point," Panthers coach John Fox said Tuesday. "That would be purely speculation on my point without talking to the doctors."

                      Smith suffered the injury in the fourth quarter of Monday's season-opening 24-14 loss to the Green Bay Packers after getting tackled following a catch.

                      Signed to a $27.5 million contract in the offseason, Smith is an integeral part for the Panthers both offensively and on special teams.

                      Last season, Smith established career highs in receptions (88), yards (1,110), and touchdowns (seven). He also averaged 28.1 yards on kickoff returns and also returned punts.

                      Second-round pick Keary Colbert, who was inactive against Green Bay, is expected in Smith's place.
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                      Some other sources may be saying it was an ACL tear, but those sources are wrong.

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                      • #86
                        You guys need to be clear about your terms - "one year wonder" would apply to a journeyman who suddenly has a big year, i.e. Drew Bennett, or Mushin Muhammad.

                        Javon Walker on the other hand, was an up and coming receiver who was "breaking out"... His big year was a sign of bigger things to come, not a fluke.

                        To say a guy is a "one year wonder" is to say that he is a fluke - Javon Walker is no fluke. He's a big-time talent, and TT was an idiot to let him get away.
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                        • #87
                          the "one year wonder" chorus are just the sour grapes guys.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                            the "one year wonder" chorus are just the sour grapes guys.
                            exactly

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                            • #89
                              So Walker got over 800 yards one season and you think he is not a one year wonder?

                              It happened to be the same year Driver was carted off early in the year with a neck injury and Ferguson got carted off later in the year with a season ending injury.

                              Walker only started 18 games in his 4 seasons in Green Bay. If he was so good one would think he would start. During his "one year wonder" he started 12 games. That year Driver only started 11 due to injury and Ferguson only started 5 due to the previously mentioned injury.

                              54% of his TD's, 56% of his career yards, 59% of his first downs and 66% of his starts came in only one of his 4 years(2004).

                              In the last 4 years Donald Driver has 4114 yards averaging over a thousand yards a season. Walker had 2444 in his 4 seasons averaging 611 yards.
                              Driver has had 292 catches in 4 years and Walker 157.
                              To say Walker was top receiver on the Packers let alone "top 8 in the league" is not accurate.

                              Stats, production, and reliability can be measured and are not manipulated.

                              A second round pick for a back up player is a swindle.

                              One year wonder is an appropriate label until Walker demonstrates otherwise.

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                              • #90
                                I don't know where you're coming from, Cheezy. The injury to Javon Walker changes everything, he is now a risk. But I think most fans could see Javon Walker's play on the field and understand he was a special talent. It doesn't matter that it took him a couple years in the league to get in gear, which is all your stats show.

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