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  • #16
    Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
    IF Brohm was on another team, what sort of draft pick would you think the PAckers should give up to acquire him?
    Conditional ninth round pick.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
      IF Brohm was on another team, what sort of draft pick would you think the PAckers should give up to acquire him?
      Two bags of fritos, and some old socks.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Lurker64
        Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
        IF Brohm was on another team, what sort of draft pick would you think the PAckers should give up to acquire him?
        Conditional ninth round pick.
        Do you remember that same seventh round selection that Parcells and Wolf used to trade back and forth every year to conduct their own waiver wire? I would trade that pick. I think it was 1998.

        It good to hear Brohm made some progress tonight. But if Flynn misses any significant time, I think he is headed to IR and a vet is coming in.
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by pbmax
          Originally posted by Lurker64
          Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
          IF Brohm was on another team, what sort of draft pick would you think the PAckers should give up to acquire him?
          Conditional ninth round pick.
          Do you remember that same seventh round selection that Parcells and Wolf used to trade back and forth every year to conduct their own waiver wire? I would trade that pick. I think it was 1998.

          It good to hear Brohm made some progress tonight. But if Flynn misses any significant time, I think he is headed to IR and a vet is coming in.
          M3 said it was muscular.
          "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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          • #20
            Originally posted by wist43
            QB's are just a bitch to project... which is why I kind of gave him a pass on the Rodgers pick, even though I didn't like it at the time.

            Brady was a 6th rounder... the list of 1st round, 1st pick QB's busting is long.

            Favre was 2nd rounder, Brees a 2nd rounder (I think), Bart Starr (what? 17th round??)... you can make the same argument about other positions as well - but, QB's are a different animal in terms of evaluation... very tough to project them.
            Its true a lot bust, but the heavy percentage of exceptional QB's were picked top 10 or even top 3.

            Both Mannings, Matt Ryan(gonna be great), Elway, Marino, dilfer (just kidding).

            Basically make a list of the top 10 QBs in the league and they are all pretty high picks. Brady is a complete abheration, no QB has been that good picked outside of the top 2 rounds that I can recall. Good QB's come from all over the draft, but special ones are mostly picked really high. (sort of like left tackles.)
            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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            • #21
              Originally posted by pbmax
              It good to hear Brohm made some progress tonight.
              I'm not so sure. He looks pretty shaky, practice sqauad only material.

              Brohm will probably be a guy who gets into NFL camps for several more years. Maybe he'll get his feet underneath him some day, maybe not. HE's got a strong arm.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by bobblehead
                Brady is a complete abheration, no QB has been that good picked outside of the top 2 rounds that I can recall.
                Joe Montana - 3rd round. But you are right, in the current day NFL, the really special ones are usually taken early in the draft. It's more common to find first round QB flops than to find 2nd day stars at QB.

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                • #23
                  Hasselbeck was another 6th round gem
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                    Originally posted by pbmax
                    It good to hear Brohm made some progress tonight.
                    I'm not so sure. He looks pretty shaky, practice sqauad only material.

                    Brohm will probably be a guy who gets into NFL camps for several more years. Maybe he'll get his feet underneath him some day, maybe not. HE's got a strong arm.
                    I agree, don't care what his stats were... he was very unaware in the pocket.

                    After his first read was taken away, he would essentially start looking for somewhere to hide, you could tell the game was too fast for him... and even on his first read he was delivering the ball in a panic sometimes.

                    If Flynn's injury is bad enough, GB will definitely have to bring in a 2nd string calibur vet to back Rodgers up... coz Brohm can't play at this point.
                    wist

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by wist43
                      Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                      Originally posted by pbmax
                      It good to hear Brohm made some progress tonight.
                      I'm not so sure. He looks pretty shaky, practice sqauad only material.

                      Brohm will probably be a guy who gets into NFL camps for several more years. Maybe he'll get his feet underneath him some day, maybe not. HE's got a strong arm.
                      I agree, don't care what his stats were... he was very unaware in the pocket.

                      After his first read was taken away, he would essentially start looking for somewhere to hide, you could tell the game was too fast for him... and even on his first read he was delivering the ball in a panic sometimes.

                      If Flynn's injury is bad enough, GB will definitely have to bring in a 2nd string calibur vet to back Rodgers up... coz Brohm can't play at this point.

                      Flynn said he was practicing tomorrow night, and wouldn't have had to come out of a regular season game.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by bobblehead
                        ......no QB has been that good picked outside of the top 2 rounds that I can recall.

                        Kurt Warner.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by bobblehead
                          Originally posted by wist43
                          QB's are just a bitch to project... which is why I kind of gave him a pass on the Rodgers pick, even though I didn't like it at the time.

                          Brady was a 6th rounder... the list of 1st round, 1st pick QB's busting is long.

                          Favre was 2nd rounder, Brees a 2nd rounder (I think), Bart Starr (what? 17th round??)... you can make the same argument about other positions as well - but, QB's are a different animal in terms of evaluation... very tough to project them.
                          Its true a lot bust, but the heavy percentage of exceptional QB's were picked top 10 or even top 3.

                          Both Mannings, Matt Ryan(gonna be great), Elway, Marino, dilfer (just kidding).

                          Basically make a list of the top 10 QBs in the league and they are all pretty high picks. Brady is a complete abheration, no QB has been that good picked outside of the top 2 rounds that I can recall. Good QB's come from all over the draft, but special ones are mostly picked really high. (sort of like left tackles.)
                          I agree... the good ones come from very high in the draft - typically. And the bust rate is so high b/c teams are desperate to find "that guy", so they roll the dice a lot more on QB's early.

                          For the record, Marino was the 27th pick in 83... Elway (1st - HOF), Todd Blackledge (7th - bust), Jim Kelly (14th - HOF), Tony Eason (15th - bust), Ken O'Brien (24th - okay), Marino (27th - HOF).
                          wist

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                          • #28
                            We should've retained the services of Hasselbeck and Brunell. That'd be the most consistent 3 QBs over a 10-15yr period. :P


                            Hasselbeck - 6th round
                            Brunell - 5th round

                            Both had some good (very good) years outside of GB.
                            The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
                            Vince Lombardi

                            "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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                            • #29
                              I'm not ready to give up on Brohm just yet. Some young QBs have problems adjusting to the speed of the NFL. Didn't Rodgers have problems in the beginning at times? If Brohm is still struggling next summer then we should cut our loses.

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                              • #30
                                Brohm is very uncomfortable in the pocket. I know he played in a hybrid spread offense in college, shotgun snaps. His footwork looks awful, his drops look awful, and his composure in the pocket looks awful.

                                He will be a third stringer for this season and if he doesn't make any progress towards just developing positively, then I can see the Packers signing a veteran in 2010, or spending a draft pick on a QB they can work with.

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