Any Noise about a Potential Hawk Trade?

[Waldo]

I dunno. I've been impressed with Lansanah. Granted I need to see tomorrow's broadcast to speak about his performance tonight, but the kid is like a fullback that plays defense. As far as ILB's go, he's gigantic.

Two teams to keep in mind as trading partners for any of our defensive players - KC and Denver.

Denver doesn't exactly have the best ILB situation.

Maybe a starting caliber free safety.

Wouldn't mind a 6th round pick.

TT seems to be quite good in that round for some reason. Of rds 3-7, the 6th seems to be consistently good for him. Craig Bragg is the only player not on an NFL roster currently that TT took in the 6th here; Culver is the only other one not on our roster, he's a primary backup in Miami.

[Tarlam!]

i think waldo is some kind of deviated prevert commie spy... thats how your hardcore commie works

Am I the only one who sees the irony here?

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I love how Waldo posts from different posts about how he's smarter than someone else.

He's one of the best posters on this forum.

If you like hearing how smart he thinks he is.

I'm with Scott on this. Waldo delivers good points for discussion at a higher level. Sometimes he's right, sometimes he's wrong maybe), but he's entertaining almost always. That puts him in the best poster's category for me.

@ Brando: Interesting accusation, can you back it up?
@ Partial: You feel Waldo gets the love you deserve, mate? Perhaps more distance from your posting past is all that's required. But you won't get too much love from me bashing Waldo (or any poster) personally. Attack his opinions/facts and back your own thoughts up with proof. That might get you the respect you so crave.

Way to go Waldo!!

[Partial]

Just busting his balls, but it is somewhat humerous that he does love to bring up every time he proves someone wrong

[Tarlam!]

Just busting his balls, but it is somewhat humerous that he does love to bring up every time he proves someone wrong

IMHO, it's great to have a poster that takes on beat writers to the point that he gets their attention and dogs them so long as to have them concede, publicly. And the best part is, he shares it here so I can read it!

And, if he claims a victory over a fellow poster, it's very mild and never personal. Waldo's MO is to let facts, stats etc. speak for themselves.

See a pattern here?

[Brando19]

I love how Waldo posts from different posts about how he's smarter than someone else.

He's one of the best posters on this forum.

If you like hearing how smart he thinks he is.

I'm with Scott on this. Waldo delivers good points for discussion at a higher level. Sometimes he's right, sometimes he's wrong maybe), but he's entertaining almost always. That puts him in the best poster's category for me.

@ Brando: Interesting accusation, can you back it up?
@ Partial: You feel Waldo gets the love you deserve, mate? Perhaps more distance from your posting past is all that's required. But you won't get too much love from me bashing Waldo (or any poster) personally. Attack his opinions/facts and back your own thoughts up with proof. That might get you the respect you so crave.

Way to go Waldo!!

I don't think it needs to be "backed up" if you read his post in this very thread. I have nothing against Waldo. He knows his football...he's a smart guy when it comes to the facts. But I agree with Partial...don't post a conversation you had with someone on Twitter to prove you know more than they do...and then brag about it some more. He may not do it often...but he's a poster you don't expect it from at all. I never see Patler doing it.

[Scott Campbell]

I'm with Scott on this. Waldo delivers good points for discussion at a higher level. Sometimes he's right, sometimes he's wrong maybe), but he's entertaining almost always.

I disagree on the entertaining part. We have plenty of goofball characters here for entertainment value. He's one of the few guys that could credibly break down film. I gotta believe he played. His analysis goes well beyond what you'd expect from our typical membership here. And were a cut above the ordinary fan. He's exactly the kind of guy we need to be recruiting.

I'm disappointed that a couple people felt the need to single him out. He's always been respectful of other posters, and never initiated anything like this. It was unprovoked, and disappointing.

[BallHawk]

i think waldo is some kind of deviated prevert commie spy... thats how your hardcore commie works

Am I the only one who sees the irony here?

Nope.

[Fosco33]

I think it's cool to see a poster take on the media (ESPN/JSO) and show it here. We need a twitter/tweat thread as there are some interesting/funny comments from players that could be copied here.

It's much more interesting than, "Favre is a dick; Favre is a demigod" shit.

It'd be funny if Waldo were a 16yr old girl who's dad is a coach or something... just schooling people left/right.

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i think waldo is some kind of deviated prevert commie spy... thats how your hardcore commie works

Am I the only one who sees the irony here?

lol, it took me a few minutes to figure that one out

[MJZiggy]

i think waldo is some kind of deviated prevert commie spy... thats how your hardcore commie works

Am I the only one who sees the irony here?

lol, it took me a few minutes to figure that one out

But it was funny.

[pbmax]

If McGinn is right and the Packers keep 9 linebackers, then it all comes down to which position gets 5 backers.

If the OLBs get 5, then you have: Kampman, Matthews, Thompson, Poppinga and (Obiozor or Jones).

With 4 ILBs you get: Hawk, Barnett, Chillar and (Bishop or Lasagna).

On the other hand
To reverse it, with 5 ILBs you get to keep em all and have a designated backup for Hawk's Buck position (Lasagna).

For OLBs when there are 4: Kampman, Matthews, Thompson and (Poppinga, Jones or Obiozor).

Poppinga is interesting because as far as I can tell he is one of the few to play significant time at two positions (backup for Kampman and starter for ROLB with Matthews and Thompson hurt). If he is good enough to stick, he provides some rare flexibility.

Who else, beside Kampman and Poppinga have played LOLB?

And another question: If Bishop is distrusted in pass coverage, why is he playing Mack? Why isn't Mr. Aggressive taking on blockers at Buck behind Hawk? Unless this is simply a matter of covering for the unknown Barnett situation, the coaches might not agree with our conclusions. Might it be that he is worse taking on blocks than coverage?

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does bishop have any trade value after the massive camp and start to preseason that he's had?

[Waldo]

If McGinn is right and the Packers keep 9 linebackers, then it all comes down to which position gets 5 backers.

If the OLBs get 5, then you have: Kampman, Matthews, Thompson, Poppinga and (Obiozor or Jones).

With 4 ILBs you get: Hawk, Barnett, Chillar and (Bishop or Lasagna).

On the other hand
To reverse it, with 5 ILBs you get to keep em all and have a designated backup for Hawk's Buck position (Lasagna).

For OLBs when there are 4: Kampman, Matthews, Thompson and (Poppinga, Jones or Obiozor).

Poppinga is interesting because as far as I can tell he is one of the few to play significant time at two positions (backup for Kampman and starter for ROLB with Matthews and Thompson hurt). If he is good enough to stick, he provides some rare flexibility.

Who else, beside Kampman and Poppinga have played LOLB?

And another question: If Bishop is distrusted in pass coverage, why is he playing Mack? Why isn't Mr. Aggressive taking on blockers at Buck behind Hawk? Unless this is simply a matter of covering for the unknown Barnett situation, the coaches might not agree with our conclusions. Might it be that he is worse taking on blocks than coverage?

Havner.

Havner is the man you are missing, who IMO has the #9 LB spot locked up already.

Obiozor has as well, he is PS eligible.

[Partial]

These guys are locks imo.

OLB Aaron Kampman, ILB Brandon Chillar, ILB A.J. Hawk, ILB Desmond Bishop, ILB Nick Barnett, OLB Clay Matthews.