I wonder if Sutton has an edge at making the roster since he's really the only back we have that's substantively different than the guys we have. Grant, Jackson, Wynn, and Lumpkin are all kind of the same type of runner with a few minor differences here and there, but we didn't have anybody in the true scatback/3rd down back mold, and we probably could have used one (anybody else wish we drafted Steve Slaton instead of Brian Brohm?).
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Yeah, but Sutton's weakest point is probably picking up the blitz. That is not a good thing for a 3rd down back.Originally posted by Lurker64I wonder if Sutton has an edge at making the roster since he's really the only back we have that's substantively different than the guys we have. Grant, Jackson, Wynn, and Lumpkin are all kind of the same type of runner with a few minor differences here and there, but we didn't have anybody in the true scatback/3rd down back mold, and we probably could have used one (anybody else wish we drafted Steve Slaton instead of Brian Brohm?).
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2nd down scatback maybe, 3rd down back, almost not at all.Originally posted by Lurker64I wonder if Sutton has an edge at making the roster since he's really the only back we have that's substantively different than the guys we have. Grant, Jackson, Wynn, and Lumpkin are all kind of the same type of runner with a few minor differences here and there, but we didn't have anybody in the true scatback/3rd down back mold, and we probably could have used one (anybody else wish we drafted Steve Slaton instead of Brian Brohm?).
3rd down backs need to be able to take on blitzers in the backfield so your QB has time to complete a 15yd pass on 3rd and long, and catch a 5 swing pass (and hurdle a defender? Hendo?) for 3rd and a few.
Haven't heard much about his hands, but he doesn't seem to meet the first criteria.--
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That too.Originally posted by Scott CampbellOriginally posted by mraynrand
I was mostly describing what would happen if he were already signed to the PS. I figured that was pretty much common knowledge that you don't make it to the PS if another team wants you.
Yeah, and you don't stay on the practice squad if another team wants you."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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As far as keeping four running backs, it might come down to whether Sutton is a better running back than Lansanah is a linebacker....
But if Sutton really can't block blitzers and his job would be to be a third down back, how scary is that if you're trying to keep Aaron Rodgers safe?
If the guy was coming out on third downs you might keep him, but that's not the case."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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I think Lansanah made the roster, he's the only Buck linebacker (other than Hawk) who I've seen play consistently well.Originally posted by FritzAs far as keeping four running backs, it might come down to whether Sutton is a better running back than Lansanah is a linebacker....
At this point, I think the "will we keep a fourth RB" comes down to whether or not Wynn rallies from whatever mysterious injury is afflicting him this year.</delurk>
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Sutton ran a 4.75 forty.Originally posted by KYPackGood post, Swede.Originally posted by swedeEvery year there seems to be a fan fave running back that captures the imagination by running like a demon in the fourth quarter of pre-season games. Lumpkin was the guy last year, wasn't he? I'm afraid the "Turk" will break my heart with this kid.
There were a few plays by Sutton in the Bills game that bothered me, though. The one I remember most clearly was a running play to the right. A Bills defender pushed a lineman into Sutton's hip and he hit the ground like he was shot. Had he been a little more squared up to the LOS he might have seen a pretty big cutback to his left and he certainly would not have gone down as easily. I only crab about this because I want him to make a good case for staying as the third RB.
I do like the way the kid runs hard and slips into tiny cracks for extra yardage when running inside, an ability brought about by being 5' 7" and running with heads up and pads low.
That play stuck out for me, too.
Sutton's got real speed and a lot of shake. He is a good KR, to boot.
But I need to see him pass block and pick up the blitz before we engrave his plaque in the Packer HOF.
Those guys in the final 3 are very close, it will be a real dogfight.
The last thing he has is real speed.
Good KR? What are you basing that on?
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Apparently he ran a 4.61 in a private workout with the Packers, but that's still not "real speed", but it's fast enough for a lot of things. He is quite a bit shiftier than everybody else we have at RB though.Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
Sutton ran a 4.75 forty.
The last thing he has is real speed.</delurk>
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I looked up his stats.Originally posted by Tyrone BiggunsSutton ran a 4.75 forty.Originally posted by KYPackGood post, Swede.Originally posted by swedeEvery year there seems to be a fan fave running back that captures the imagination by running like a demon in the fourth quarter of pre-season games. Lumpkin was the guy last year, wasn't he? I'm afraid the "Turk" will break my heart with this kid.
There were a few plays by Sutton in the Bills game that bothered me, though. The one I remember most clearly was a running play to the right. A Bills defender pushed a lineman into Sutton's hip and he hit the ground like he was shot. Had he been a little more squared up to the LOS he might have seen a pretty big cutback to his left and he certainly would not have gone down as easily. I only crab about this because I want him to make a good case for staying as the third RB.
I do like the way the kid runs hard and slips into tiny cracks for extra yardage when running inside, an ability brought about by being 5' 7" and running with heads up and pads low.
That play stuck out for me, too.
Sutton's got real speed and a lot of shake. He is a good KR, to boot.
But I need to see him pass block and pick up the blitz before we engrave his plaque in the Packer HOF.
Those guys in the final 3 are very close, it will be a real dogfight.
The last thing he has is real speed.
Good KR? What are you basing that on?
he's got 1 KR for 8 yards at NW.
That's pretty good to me.
I guess I got him screwed up with another player.
As far as his foot speed, he's football fast.
Terrell Davis had shitty 40's, too, but he was fast on the field.
Sutton seems to be a guy like that.
Haven't seen any highlights where he gets caught from behind.
I like the kid, but I don't know who they will keep.
What is the deal with Wynn, BTW?
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Well, that is a bit better. Football speed vs. real speed. I suspect you could say that for every succesful back that isn't a burner. Akin to Partial's "it" status.Originally posted by KYPackI looked up his stats.Originally posted by Tyrone BiggunsSutton ran a 4.75 forty.Originally posted by KYPackGood post, Swede.Originally posted by swedeEvery year there seems to be a fan fave running back that captures the imagination by running like a demon in the fourth quarter of pre-season games. Lumpkin was the guy last year, wasn't he? I'm afraid the "Turk" will break my heart with this kid.
There were a few plays by Sutton in the Bills game that bothered me, though. The one I remember most clearly was a running play to the right. A Bills defender pushed a lineman into Sutton's hip and he hit the ground like he was shot. Had he been a little more squared up to the LOS he might have seen a pretty big cutback to his left and he certainly would not have gone down as easily. I only crab about this because I want him to make a good case for staying as the third RB.
I do like the way the kid runs hard and slips into tiny cracks for extra yardage when running inside, an ability brought about by being 5' 7" and running with heads up and pads low.
That play stuck out for me, too.
Sutton's got real speed and a lot of shake. He is a good KR, to boot.
But I need to see him pass block and pick up the blitz before we engrave his plaque in the Packer HOF.
Those guys in the final 3 are very close, it will be a real dogfight.
The last thing he has is real speed.
Good KR? What are you basing that on?
he's got 1 KR for 8 yards at NW.
That's pretty good to me.
I guess I got him screwed up with another player.
As far as his foot speed, he's football fast.
Terrell Davis had shitty 40's, too, but he was fast on the field.
Sutton seems to be a guy like that.
Haven't seen any highlights where he gets caught from behind.
I like the kid, but I don't know who they will keep.
What is the deal with Wynn, BTW?
Wynn? I dont' know why you would ask me. Has talent, but can't seem to utilize it..either through injury or getting in his own way.
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I'm still puzzled...if he's going to be a third down guy and he can't block, why keep him?
Do coaches think he's going to be a first or second down guy?"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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Tony Fisher couldn't block worth shit. But Sherman (for better or worse) kept him for his receiving ability out of the back field. How are Sutton's hands? Also, if he's a project player that they can't stash on the practice squad, it my indicate that they don't have a whole lot of faith in the other #2's.Originally posted by FritzI'm still puzzled...if he's going to be a third down guy and he can't block, why keep him?
Do coaches think he's going to be a first or second down guy?
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You can say this without seeing him run against a 1st team defense?Originally posted by The ShadowSutton makes the team.
I'm hoping they play him early on Saturday. Want to see if he's got the same burst that he's got with the 3's.
Also, whoever pointed out that one play where he got nicked and fell immediately.... Yep, that concerns me too. But, I've yet to see a fumble. That's a good thing.
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