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  • #16
    Originally posted by mraynrand
    Originally posted by SkinBasket
    I've always hated the writers who break players into tiers like this. Mainly because for most players it's obvious where they fall on the scale, and for the others it's entirely subjective. And the whole "chip" concept is very 1992.

    I find numerical ratings much more useful for comparison. If you're going to rate players, do it right and precisely, not just lump them into 4 or 5 groups.
    I think Rodgers is 9,945,657,223,431.65 and Jennings is 8,987,456,322,433.32
    You forgot to adjust for weather.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #17
      Cullen Jenkins a "Blue" player? Ridiculous in my opinion!

      2008 - Just 4 games played, too little to base any "star" rating on.
      2007 - 16 games, 15 starts. Mediocre performance. Injured somewhat, but even coaches felt he underperformed in light of his injuries.
      2006 - started just 5 games. Had decent performances at end of season replacing KGB.
      2004 & 2005 - sometimes starter, mostly at DT. Good player, not special.

      A "Blue" player shouldn't get there based solely on potential, and Jenkins has not performed well enough over any significant length of time to earn such a rating. Potentially "Blue" or "Almost Blue" perhaps, but he has not earned a full blue in my opinion.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by pbmax
        I agree that numerical rankings would be more useful for comparison. But didn't McGinn use this concept himself for several years? He labeled them as colors instead of colored chips. Blue players, red players, heliotrope players, etc.

        And I think the rationale he gave was that teams coded players the same way on their boards. I wonder if this has changed, as I don't remember seeing his chart recently.
        There's a comic strip called Shoe, and I remember an old strip I thought was funny. Guy was commenting on how people were using foods to describe colour, and asked a waitress what food she would use to describe his sports coat.

        "Catfood"
        --
        Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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        • #19
          I think Driver should be a blue I mean he has been outstanding catching anything for years I mean its true that Jennings has that nose for TD and he is a great WR. and I think he is a near blue or maybe even a low blue but Driver has been doing it for so many more yrs and has his battle scars to prove it maybe is numbers were down last YR but that was not his fault more Ar's fault for throwing to Jennings maybe because he was more comfortable because he was more use to throwing to him in practice? I am just glad we have them both on the Packers.

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          • #20
            I agree, if Driver isn't a blue chip player then seriously wtf is this writer's problem. Driver was awesome in 07 and had good numbers last year with a new qb transition. Also, the few plays driver has made in the preseason shows that even though he is 34, he's playing like he is 28. The guy is just phenominal.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Patler
              Cullen Jenkins a "Blue" player? Ridiculous in my opinion!

              2008 - Just 4 games played, too little to base any "star" rating on.
              2007 - 16 games, 15 starts. Mediocre performance. Injured somewhat, but even coaches felt he underperformed in light of his injuries.
              2006 - started just 5 games. Had decent performances at end of season replacing KGB.
              2004 & 2005 - sometimes starter, mostly at DT. Good player, not special.

              A "Blue" player shouldn't get there based solely on potential, and Jenkins has not performed well enough over any significant length of time to earn such a rating. Potentially "Blue" or "Almost Blue" perhaps, but he has not earned a full blue in my opinion.
              I think you might underestimate Jenkins in 07 (especially early), though injuries did slow him down later. Which has been his story for most of his career.

              But the list is overgenerous. In the master list, there are 12 quarterbacks listed as Blue. That is more than 1/3 of the League. Ridiculous I say!
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by pbmax
                I think you might underestimate Jenkins in 07 (especially early), though injuries did slow him down later. Which has been his story for most of his career.

                But the list is overgenerous. In the master list, there are 12 quarterbacks listed as Blue. That is more than 1/3 of the League. Ridiculous I say!
                Ya, "mediocre" was probably a bit too harsh. But my recollection is that even early he wasn't any kind of a "wow" performer. I just don't think he has achieved anything close to what a "Blue" player should.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by MichiganPackerFan
                  WOW! That was way back, before Shaq was a gluttonous fat bastard.
                  . . . and before Nick Nolte was a gluttonous fat bastard.
                  "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                  KYPack

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by packerbacker1234
                    I agree, if Driver isn't a blue chip player then seriously wtf is this writer's problem. Driver was awesome in 07 and had good numbers last year with a new qb transition. Also, the few plays driver has made in the preseason shows that even though he is 34, he's playing like he is 28. The guy is just phenominal.
                    Hate to break this to you, but Driver's declining. He's kind of old. A little outdated. He's a ruble.

                    "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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