Packers Cards Live game thread

[pittstang5]

yep...the pack will lose this game.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

It is preseason, who cares.

The game was over at half.

[pittstang5]

It is preseason, who cares.

The game was over at half.

I care! A win is a Win!

[pittstang5]

This is pathetic. 38-10 lead and 2nd and 3rd and 4th dtring can't keep the lead.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

It is preseason, who cares.

The game was over at half.

I care! A win is a Win!

No, the don't keep track of preseason games. They dont' matter. If we go 4-0 and then suck in the regular season...are you gonna look back at these games and feel good. Nope.

If we go 0-4 in preseason and go to the playoffs...you won't care.

Either way, you won't care.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

This is pathetic. 38-10 lead and 2nd and 3rd and 4th dtring can't keep the lead.

We are playing our 3rd string qb against leinart.

Winning isn't the goal.

[pbmax]

Brohm has looked better tonight than any other time this year. That is not saying much.

[retailguy]

Waiting for you to show us all the bullshit.

I cant help but wonder just how bad AR's injury was last year. He looks amazing this year and I have to think that this may be why it appeared that MM had the handcuffs on him. I think we are seeing something amazing here. Franchises never make the transition from iconic, HF'er QB's smoothly. This is great.

Niners. HOF to HOF.

True, but Young was established already.

Not really.

He was playing with nothing.

Ah, excuses.
Just admit he wasn't established...whatever the reason.

He certainly was established as a very good talent who got stuck on a bad NFL team.

Young was not established, he wasn't proven.

You are simply being obstinate.

Vegas: Young was 12-8 as as starter in five years with a QB rating around 100 with the Niners before taking over. He had 7 years in the league and played most of his ball for a horrible Tampa team. San Fran knew what they had in Young and were perfectly comfortable letting Montana go. They knew way more about Young than the Pack knew about Rodgers. Young was completely established as a very good starter in the NFL before Montana left.

If you are going to jump in, try at least to follow along.

The original issue was that he said teams don't transition from iconic HOFs smoothly, to which is said the Niners did.

So, i was right.

Then the issue was that young was established. I clearly was talking about young when he was acquired..as he was acquired to be the backup and eventual successor...and when acquired he wasn't established. Nor had he proven anything.

Yes, Young was already established. He had played 5 seasons for SF and started 20, winning 12. Clearly Young was well established as a good starter with a high passer rating is completely obvious before he took over (permanently) for Montana. His two years in Tampa where he played fewer total games (19), for a vastly inferior squad, were a distant memory and irrelevant. Vegas, you were right on the money about Young being established. Clearly, he was far far more established when he took over permanently than Rodgers, who had never started a single game, played in 7 total, and had only thrown for a total of 300 yards or so.

(lots of drivel ommitted)
Lastly, you introduce a strawman. No one was ever talking about a comparison of rodgers to young.

Tyrones 1st post used Montana/Young to contrast Favre/Rodgers.... but, no one compared Rodgers to young?... Yeah. Ok. I leave you with this image tyrone, and good night my argumentative lil buddy.... :P

[pittstang5]

This is pathetic. 38-10 lead and 2nd and 3rd and 4th dtring can't keep the lead.

We are playing our 3rd string qb against leinart.

Winning isn't the goal.

You just want to argue. I enjoy winning whether it counts or not. Plus, i;m frustrated that they gave up 28 unanswered points. Preseason or no preseason...it's unacceptable.

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[Tyrone Bigguns]

Waiting for you to show us all the bullshit.

I cant help but wonder just how bad AR's injury was last year. He looks amazing this year and I have to think that this may be why it appeared that MM had the handcuffs on him. I think we are seeing something amazing here. Franchises never make the transition from iconic, HF'er QB's smoothly. This is great.

Niners. HOF to HOF.

True, but Young was established already.

Not really.

He was playing with nothing.

Ah, excuses.
Just admit he wasn't established...whatever the reason.

He certainly was established as a very good talent who got stuck on a bad NFL team.

Young was not established, he wasn't proven.

You are simply being obstinate.

Vegas: Young was 12-8 as as starter in five years with a QB rating around 100 with the Niners before taking over. He had 7 years in the league and played most of his ball for a horrible Tampa team. San Fran knew what they had in Young and were perfectly comfortable letting Montana go. They knew way more about Young than the Pack knew about Rodgers. Young was completely established as a very good starter in the NFL before Montana left.

If you are going to jump in, try at least to follow along.

The original issue was that he said teams don't transition from iconic HOFs smoothly, to which is said the Niners did.

So, i was right.

Then the issue was that young was established. I clearly was talking about young when he was acquired..as he was acquired to be the backup and eventual successor...and when acquired he wasn't established. Nor had he proven anything.

Yes, Young was already established. He had played 5 seasons for SF and started 20, winning 12. Clearly Young was well established as a good starter with a high passer rating is completely obvious before he took over (permanently) for Montana. His two years in Tampa where he played fewer total games (19), for a vastly inferior squad, were a distant memory and irrelevant. Vegas, you were right on the money about Young being established. Clearly, he was far far more established when he took over permanently than Rodgers, who had never started a single game, played in 7 total, and had only thrown for a total of 300 yards or so.

(lots of drivel ommitted)
Lastly, you introduce a strawman. No one was ever talking about a comparison of rodgers to young.

Tyrones 1st post used Montana/Young to contrast Favre/Rodgers.... but, no one compared Rodgers to young?... Yeah. Ok. I leave you with this image tyrone, and good night my argumentative lil buddy.... :P

thanx, you just proved what an ass you are.

Did the Niners make the transition from iconic hof? Yes. So, i was right.

The niners brought in young when he wasn't established...and he was there QB of the future and he wasn't established. Sorry, but you are wrong again.

And, when he took over, he wasn't established either. 20 starts in 5 years is not being established. And, he certainly wasn't proven. 12-10 record isn't proven.

If Arod was 12-10 taking over the pack after favre you wouldn't say he was proven.

As for the Niners knowing more...how do you know? How do you know what the packers knew about Arod. You don't.

Buhbye.

[pbmax]

Going for a 2 point conversion. The game that wouldn't end. Review coming up

[Tyrone Bigguns]

This is pathetic. 38-10 lead and 2nd and 3rd and 4th dtring can't keep the lead.

We are playing our 3rd string qb against leinart.

Winning isn't the goal.

You just want to argue. I enjoy winning whether it counts or not. Plus, i;m frustrated that they gave up 28 unanswered points. Preseason or no preseason...it's unacceptable.

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How can you enjoy winning when it doesn't mean anything?

Acceptable? Why? The team's goals are to evaluate players, to work in schemes, get acclimated..that is what preseason is about. You need to change your focus.

And, they won.

[pittstang5]

This is pathetic. 38-10 lead and 2nd and 3rd and 4th dtring can't keep the lead.

We are playing our 3rd string qb against leinart.

Winning isn't the goal.

You just want to argue. I enjoy winning whether it counts or not. Plus, i;m frustrated that they gave up 28 unanswered points. Preseason or no preseason...it's unacceptable.

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How can you enjoy winning when it doesn't mean anything?

Acceptable? Why? The team's goals are to evaluate players, to work in schemes, get acclimated..that is what preseason is about. You need to change your focus.

And, they won.

Ok...maybe dissappointed instead of unacceptable. But anyway - Why can't you just accept that I like winning. What do you care? It's my opinion and I hate to lose. So sorry that I offended you with my own personal view.

[Scott Campbell]

Will Ty make it to the opener?

[Packman_26]

This is pathetic. 38-10 lead and 2nd and 3rd and 4th dtring can't keep the lead.

We are playing our 3rd string qb against leinart.

Winning isn't the goal.

You just want to argue. I enjoy winning whether it counts or not. Plus, i;m frustrated that they gave up 28 unanswered points. Preseason or no preseason...it's unacceptable.

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How can you enjoy winning when it doesn't mean anything?

Acceptable? Why? The team's goals are to evaluate players, to work in schemes, get acclimated..that is what preseason is about. You need to change your focus.

And, they won.

It depends on what you consider "mean anything". When players perform well, you usually win so it does mean something.
Also, if the ultimate goal is the super bowl, wouldn't every game won by the 31 other teams be meaningless?