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I wasn't excusing the play, just explaining why he probably did it. As I wrote, he should hear from the league about it.Originally posted by CaptainKickassIf Favre has like 300 years of football experience, and the coaching staff decides to run a play where they split him out wide, the dude better know how to properly execute a block.Originally posted by PatlerHe doesn't envision himself in an illegal blocking situation like a receiver should who is in that situation routinely, and Favre did not recognize it as it occurred.
I don't believe it was intentional, that's hard to prove in any case, but still - here's an NFL 3x MVP nearly destroying an opponents knee with an illegal block.
I don't care if he "regularly" is in that situation or not - the dude should damn well know the play, the situation, and what to do.
The dude loves the spotlight so damn much, I think he should issue a public apology.
That hit is totally classless and as was mentioned earlier..."Bush League"
Boooooo!!
When you coach athletes, even at high levels, its one thing to make them know the rules, procedures and techniques and a totally different thing to get them to execute them at game speed without thinking. While they can execute properly in walk throughs and even in practice, reacting properly at game speed and game intensity is another matter. That's why visualization works well for many, in addition to practice, practice, practice. If you practice and/or visualize the situation enough, you will react the same way instinctively when it actually occurs. Favre has likely done neither. Instead, he instinctively threw the same block he always has, and has been praised for, on reverses. In this situation, it is illegal.
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I'm with Nutz and Patler. When I saw that, I thought "that's how Favre has always blocked." He throws himself at the opponent's knees. It's just how he blocks. Probably because quarterbacks don't get taught much how to block.
In this instance, or course, it's illegal. But it's how he's always done it. We've seen Favre do that many times, and often we loved him for being so willing to throw a block."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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...as in a patented Favrian "self-interview"Originally posted by sharpe1027
Favre should apologize, be fined and then move on. .
"Was I trying to throw a dirty block? No."
"Was I just trying to make a play? Yeah."
"Am I sorry he got hurt? Of course, but again--like I was telling my daughter--Daddy isn't a bad guy--he just plays the game hard and people get hurt. I get hurt. This time Wilson got hurt, so I'm sorry he got hurt and I apologize for that but not for the way I play this game."[QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.
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I can agree that "thats how Favre always blocked". But that doesn't excuse it. He should still know the situation and be able to throw an equally lame block that happens to be legal in that situation. He is a professionsl football player after all.Originally posted by FritzI'm with Nutz and Patler. When I saw that, I thought "that's how Favre has always blocked." He throws himself at the opponent's knees. It's just how he blocks. Probably because quarterbacks don't get taught much how to block.
In this instance, or course, it's illegal. But it's how he's always done it. We've seen Favre do that many times, and often we loved him for being so willing to throw a block.
Just to illustrate the ridiculousness even further:
What would you say regarding Sapp's hit on Cliffy if someone said "Thats how Sapp always blocked"??
."Everyone's born anarchist and atheist until people start lying to them" ~ wise philosopher
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Originally posted by swede...as in a patented Favrian "self-interview"Originally posted by sharpe1027
Favre should apologize, be fined and then move on. .
"Was I trying to throw a dirty block? No."
"Was I just trying to make a play? Yeah."
"Am I sorry he got hurt? Of course, but again--like I was telling my daughter--Daddy isn't a bad guy--he just plays the game hard and people get hurt. I get hurt. This time Wilson got hurt, so I'm sorry he got hurt and I apologize for that but not for the way I play this game."
Spooky.
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Cap'n, I'm not saying I'm good with how Favre blocks. In fact, I was always uncomfortable with how much gushing went on because Favre threw himself at an opponent's knees.
I'm just saying that for those who might think this is part of the Vikings' tradition and that's where it comes from with Favre, well, no. That's just how Favre does it."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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He should have hit him high with his non-throwing shoulder. He would have blown him up. He tucked and hit a knee. Dont think it was intended to injure just happened that way. I am in no way a Favre apologist but c'mon it was a bad play and he will pay for it.
Harris's hit was on a ballcarrier get over it AP got hurt on it, that happens from time to time in football when you get the rock that much.Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.
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Originally posted by FritzI'm just saying that for those who might think this is part of the Vikings' tradition and that's where it comes from with Favre, well, no. That's just how Favre does it.
I get your point, but it is ironically amazing how once he joins the dark side, he immediately fits right in with that Queens "tradition" of "dirty play" while using a style of blocking he was previously praised for when he was on the side of the rebel alliance.
It's cool Fritz. I ain't here to sling shit - just to point shit out."Everyone's born anarchist and atheist until people start lying to them" ~ wise philosopher
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I truly hope the league fines him for this no matter if it was intentional or not. Players have to know that this type of block in this wild cat stuff isn't tolerated. If a fat cat star like BF gets fined that'll get the attention of the rest of the players in this league.
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That is a totally ridiculous comparison. Favre had a messy block in the middle of the action. sapp just layed Clifton out while everyone was running down field already.Originally posted by CaptainKickassJust to illustrate the ridiculousness even further:
What would you say regarding Sapp's hit on Cliffy if someone said "Thats how Sapp always blocked"??
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I think Favre's face after the collision says he wasn't trying to take the guy out. He also hurt himself.
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I dont think we will see too many QBs doing the same. But your and so many others outrage is really overblown considering we use to cheer those same blocks once upon a time.Originally posted by PuggerI truly hope the league fines him for this no matter if it was intentional or not. Players have to know that this type of block in this wild cat stuff isn't tolerated. If a fat cat star like BF gets fined that'll get the attention of the rest of the players in this league.
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I am pretty sure that the point was that having blocked that way in the past is not an excuse, not whether Favre's block was better or worse than Sapp.Originally posted by MadtownPackerThat is a totally ridiculous comparison. Favre had a messy block in the middle of the action. sapp just layed Clifton out while everyone was running down field already.Originally posted by CaptainKickassJust to illustrate the ridiculousness even further:
What would you say regarding Sapp's hit on Cliffy if someone said "Thats how Sapp always blocked"??
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I think Favre's face after the collision says he wasn't trying to take the guy out. He also hurt himself.
Favre getting hurt doesn't excuse him or have anything to do with his intent.
It is not the end of the world, but he screwed up and should be fined. IMO, he should be man enough to admit his mistake without some half-ass excuse, but that's just my personal preference.
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Who cares really--although I don't remember too many crackback blocks to the back of the knees when he was with the Packers. Was he ever fined or penalized for a block while with the Packers? I vaguely remember one, but it wasn't as egregious as this one. His blocks usually consisted of him getting out in front of a reverse. Sometimes he'd go to the guys knees, but the defender was always heads up with him. To say people wouldn't have condemned the block if he was still with the Packers is a bit of a reach. He should get fined, and that's the end of the story."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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