Dirty Hit?

[CaptainKickass]

Just to illustrate the ridiculousness even further:

What would you say regarding Sapp's hit on Cliffy if someone said "Thats how Sapp always blocked"??

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That is a totally ridiculous comparison. Favre had a messy block in the middle of the action. sapp just layed Clifton out while everyone was running down field already.

I think Favre's face after the collision says he wasn't trying to take the guy out. He also hurt himself.

I am pretty sure that the point was that having blocked that way in the past is not an excuse, not whether Favre's block was better or worse than Sapp.

Favre getting hurt doesn't excuse him or have anything to do with his intent.

It is not the end of the world, but he screwed up and should be fined. IMO, he should be man enough to admit his mistake without some half-ass excuse, but that's just my personal preference.

Hey Mad - Maybe you missed it as a result of chugging tequila and watching some hottie senioritas - but I did in fact say that it was ridiculous. You even quoted it, and then reiterated that you also believed it to be ridiculous. Hence, we must agree.

Sharpe1027 is living up to the sound of his handle - "sharp". I sure am glad someone got it.

I hope he gets fined. I hope he issues a personal apology to the guy. I hope it doesn't continue.


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[swede]

I gave thought to a thread such as this last night, and it didn't surprise me at all to see a thread titled, "Dirty Hit?" this morning.

And I would have begun such a thread by making some joking reference to Favre becoming a quick study of the dirty history of Viking football. Am I wrong, or does such a preconception indeed exist about Viking players? The only two things I recall were Robert Ferguson being dumped on his head and one of our players nearly getting his eye gouged out in a disgustingly flagrant and deliberate act by a Viking player. There was John Randle, the otherwise ordinary Viking DT that made the commercial featuring his chasing around a chicken dressed in a #4 jersey, but that stuff was more funny than troubling because he rarely hit Favre with anything but his mouth. Chris Carter made us scream at the refs as he pushed off over and over again and then got the refs to throw flags over cheap retaliatory hand checks, but that was like facing a spitballer in baseball in that it was the kind of cheating you admire. It wasn't dirty.

Are there multiple instances of dirty play by the Vikings? Do some of you carry a list of top ten Viking cheap shots folded in your wallets? I'd like to hear them because the Vikings were my favorite team to boo and hiss even before Brent joined them.

But the most honest take of the "dirty hit" is that it wasn't a hit at all, but it was an enthusiastic yet un-athletic body block of the sort taught to halfbacks in the 40's and 50's which Brent has delivered many times before to the unending and unwarranted delight of color commentators. It was simply the first time he had ever managed to injure someone. It wasn't power or speed that injured the opposing player. It was more like Bobby Knight had thrown a chair across the field and by happenstance caught the DB in such a manner as to cause injury.

It wasn't dirty, but it is fun to pretend so.

[Brando19]

Double standard? Sounds like the guys that used to run this forum.

Always the same thing with you. In honor of your lame posts (youtube and actin' like a big baby)...this one's for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXpUzItf7T0&feature=PlayList&p=F38ED70340D5C538&index=0

[sharpe1027]

I gave thought to a thread such as this last night, and it didn't surprise me at all to see a thread titled, "Dirty Hit?" this morning.

And I would have begun such a thread by making some joking reference to Favre becoming a quick study of the dirty history of Viking football. Am I wrong, or does such a preconception indeed exist about Viking players? The only two things I recall were Robert Ferguson being dumped on his head and one of our players nearly getting his eye gouged out in a disgustingly flagrant and deliberate act by a Viking player. There was John Randle, the otherwise ordinary Viking DT that made the commercial featuring his chasing around a chicken dressed in a #4 jersey, but that stuff was more funny than troubling because he rarely hit Favre with anything but his mouth. Chris Carter made us scream at the refs as he pushed off over and over again and then got the refs to throw flags over cheap retaliatory hand checks, but that was like facing a spitballer in baseball in that it was the kind of cheating you admire. It wasn't dirty.

Are there multiple instances of dirty play by the Vikings? Do some of you carry a list of top ten Viking cheap shots folded in your wallets? I'd like to hear them because the Vikings were my favorite team to boo and hiss even before Brent joined them.

But the most honest take of the "dirty hit" is that it wasn't a hit at all, but it was an enthusiastic yet un-athletic body block of the sort taught to halfbacks in the 40's and 50's which Brent has delivered many times before to the unending and unwarranted delight of color commentators. It was simply the first time he had ever managed to injure someone. It wasn't power or speed that injured the opposing player. It was more like Bobby Knight had thrown a chair across the field and by happenstance caught the DB in such a manner as to cause injury.

It wasn't dirty, but it is fun to pretend so.

I remember the eye gouge and that alone is enough for me. Other not-so-nice Viking incidents include (sorry Ras and Smack)

- artificially creating crowd noise using their speaker system
- having astro-turf and a dome
- Randy Million's million push offs
- Randy Million's mooning
- Duante's stupid roll thingie
- being second only to Dallas in the number of head slaps/forearms to the face that were delivered to Reggie White
- speaking with Favre after his retirement and then pretending they never spoke about him becoming a Viking (ya right)
- grown men wearing purple

As for the Favre incident, he's made lay-down blocks before, but I do not recall him making them on a player that had their back turned to him. It was a stupid move and there's no good excuse for it.

[MJZiggy]

I wonder if this means the Vikes lay off the wildcat for a while. I mean every time Favre lines up wide, they'll be talking about that hit and I'd bet they're more likely to flag him for any questionable hit that comes along in the near future.

[Fritz]

I'm just saying that for those who might think this is part of the Vikings' tradition and that's where it comes from with Favre, well, no. That's just how Favre does it.

I get your point, but it is ironically amazing how once he joins the dark side, he immediately fits right in with that Queens "tradition" of "dirty play" while using a style of blocking he was previously praised for when he was on the side of the rebel alliance.


It's cool Fritz. I ain't here to sling shit - just to point shit out.

We agree, then. I'm with ya.

However, I'm always willing to entertain the possibility that the Vikings have worked with Favre on refining his technique - maybe they're teaching him where to hit on a guy's knee to cause the most structural damage. You know how them Vikings are! Dirty pool everywhere!

[retailguy]

I wonder if this means the Vikes lay off the wildcat for a while. I mean every time Favre lines up wide, they'll be talking about that hit and I'd bet they're more likely to flag him for any questionable hit that comes along in the near future.

That's a good point. But I also think the defense would be keying for him too, especially if he gave another crappy block.

He could leave the game in the preseason, but he can't in the regular season!

[Harlan Huckleby]

Favre ALWAYS blocks that way, rolls on the ground and hopes to trip somebody. He never has blocked from a wide reciever slot before, I doubt he really thought about the crack-back rule.

[Fritz]

If Favre lined up at a wide receiver slot, wouldn't cornerbacks playing press be able to get up on him and jam him good?

[Harlan Huckleby]

how's that boner holding up?

[Fritz]

Good for the next 36 hours...

[Scott Campbell]

36 hours?????

Well I guess I might be bragging too.

[MJZiggy]

Good for the next 36 hours...

You're killing me here...

[Fritz]

I'm here all week. And don't forget to tip the waitstaff.

[Noodle]

Good for the next 36 hours...

You're killing me here...

That's what she said . . .

Oh yeah, you are a she.

Nevermind.