ALL the Packer cuts/keeps in this thread

[Tyrone Bigguns]

"McCarthy on Martin's release: "The Ruvell Martin decision, personally it tears you up because of the type of person that Ruvell is and what he has meant to us as a team and as a teammate. He's been a productive player. I told Ruvell that if we were to have a billboard and wanted to put a picture of someone that exemplifies a Green Bay Packer, we would put his picture up.""

You don't cut a guy that everyone on the team is torn up about. You have plenty of special teamers. Where is the loyalty?!?

Why not? You sound like the packers under Starr.

I'll tell you what, i want MM to be the guy to deliver the message to my next ex.

"The XX decision, personally it tears you up because of the type of person that chick is and what she has meant to ty and as a friend. She's been a productive girlfriend. I told XX that if we were to have a billboard and wanted to put a picture of woman that exemplifies a great girlfrieind, we would put her picture up.""

[sheepshead]

I feel bad for Brohm but I'm glad TT saw the error of his ways and cut his losses. Someone here said a while back in another thread that evaluating QBs is hard. There are scores of good college QBs who just cannot make the transition to the pro game. Instead of wringing our hands about TT's miss in that round how about giving him kudos for finding a diamond in the rough QB on the second day in Flynn??

Because the Flynn pick was a no-brainer just like the AR pick. Therefore, TT should receive no credit.

This is where I was heading with this guy, but never got there... alas.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I feel bad for Brohm but I'm glad TT saw the error of his ways and cut his losses. Someone here said a while back in another thread that evaluating QBs is hard. There are scores of good college QBs who just cannot make the transition to the pro game. Instead of wringing our hands about TT's miss in that round how about giving him kudos for finding a diamond in the rough QB on the second day in Flynn??

Because the Flynn pick was a no-brainer just like the AR pick. Therefore, TT should receive no credit.

This is where I was heading with this guy, but never got there... alas.

You are clueless...miss the sarcasm and miss the gender.

[CaptainKickass]

I'll tell you what, i want MM to be the guy to deliver the message to my next ex.

"The XX decision, personally it tears you up because of the type of person that chick is and what she has meant to ty and as a friend. She's been a productive girlfriend. I told XX that if we were to have a billboard and wanted to put a picture of woman that exemplifies a great girlfrieind, we would put her picture up.""

Quoted for truth.

And because it was funny.

[Partial]

Where is the loyalty?!?

To the team that's paying you millions of dollars to make the brutal decisions that give that team the best chance of winning.

But he hasn't been winning so far. Having a family atmosphere and some loyalty to your players when they're still developing is key to establishing a good environment in my opinion.

This could be like Jon Ryan 2.0

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Where is the loyalty?!?

To the team that's paying you millions of dollars to make the brutal decisions that give that team the best chance of winning.

But he hasn't been winning so far. Having a family atmosphere and some loyalty to your players when they're still developing is key to establishing a good environment in my opinion.

This could be like Jon Ryan 2.0

Loyalty? You mean like to Arod? Or to College? Or to Barnett? Or to Collins? Or to Tramon? Or to James Jones?

Family atmosphere? Please elucidate.

Family atmosphere got us the 70s and 80s. Fuck family atmosphere.

[MJZiggy]

Where is the loyalty?!?

To the team that's paying you millions of dollars to make the brutal decisions that give that team the best chance of winning.

But he hasn't been winning so far. Having a family atmosphere and some loyalty to your players when they're still developing is key to establishing a good environment in my opinion.

This could be like Jon Ryan 2.0

2007 wasn't winning? I think you're going to have to redefine the term for me then. If they felt they got the best they could out of Ruvell, but there was someone who had more to offer the team, you're saying you want the Packers to settle for less for familiarity's sake?

[Partial]

Where is the loyalty?!?

To the team that's paying you millions of dollars to make the brutal decisions that give that team the best chance of winning.

But he hasn't been winning so far. Having a family atmosphere and some loyalty to your players when they're still developing is key to establishing a good environment in my opinion.

This could be like Jon Ryan 2.0

2007 wasn't winning? I think you're going to have to redefine the term for me then. If they felt they got the best they could out of Ruvell, but there was someone who had more to offer the team, you're saying you want the Packers to settle for less for familiarity's sake?

One winning season is not good enough. You settle for winning 25% of the time?

[mraynrand]

Fuck family atmosphere.

That could be the slogan for a new ad campaign.

[Fritz]

2007 - the 13-3 record, trip to the conference championship game - far outshines anything Starr ever did in his post-playing days tenure.

[Scott Campbell]

Where is the loyalty?!?

To the team that's paying you millions of dollars to make the brutal decisions that give that team the best chance of winning.

But he hasn't been winning so far. Having a family atmosphere and some loyalty to your players when they're still developing is key to establishing a good environment in my opinion.

This could be like Jon Ryan 2.0

That's sentimentality - not loyalty. His loyalty to the team over your heart strings is well placed.

[SkinBasket]

Where is the loyalty?!?

To the team that's paying you millions of dollars to make the brutal decisions that give that team the best chance of winning.

But he hasn't been winning so far. Having a family atmosphere and some loyalty to your players when they're still developing is key to establishing a good environment in my opinion.

This could be like Jon Ryan 2.0

The only thing Ruvell was "still developing" was his smile. Wanting to keep a football player on the 53 man roster because he's a nice guy is about as smart as keeping a polyp in your colon.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Loyalty? You mean like to Arod? Or to College? Or to Barnett? Or to Collins? Or to Tramon? Or to James Jones?

I would say loyalty is the guy in this forum that still uses the account name "Brohm". That's the sort of love that people write songs about.

[sheepshead]

The best players make the team. Period, the end. The best players from that group start. That's what we're paying TT for. The Lombardi sentiment cost us 30 years of mediocrity.

[cheesner]

Where is the loyalty?!?

To the team that's paying you millions of dollars to make the brutal decisions that give that team the best chance of winning.

But he hasn't been winning so far. Having a family atmosphere and some loyalty to your players when they're still developing is key to establishing a good environment in my opinion.

This could be like Jon Ryan 2.0

2007 wasn't winning? I think you're going to have to redefine the term for me then. If they felt they got the best they could out of Ruvell, but there was someone who had more to offer the team, you're saying you want the Packers to settle for less for familiarity's sake?

One winning season is not good enough. You settle for winning 25% of the time?

If you hire a fortune 500 CEO to run Eds Waffle Hut, don't expect it to turn into IHOP over night. You have to look for improvements and see that the business is headed in the right direction.

The Packers have improved, from what I can see, in talent, every year that TT has been at the helm except the first season when he lost a lot of high $ talent for necessary salary cap moves.