ALL the Packer cuts/keeps in this thread

[Lurker64]

Really, is there any sense of disloyalty from Thompson in this offseason except cutting Ruvell Martin.

With the emergence of Jermichael Finley as a big, tall downfield threat, would Ruvell have played at all this year? He's not a particularly good special teams player and other than "being well-liked" he didn't really have any unique skills anymore.

So if Thompson had shown him "loyalty" and given him the fifth WR spot, wouldn't that have been a betrayal to 52 other guys, who may well love Ruvell but probably love winning more.

I mean, if Ruvell Martin is so very well liked that he's worth keeping around even though he wouldn't play, just hire him to a meaningless front office job, "Vice President of Team Cameraderie" or something.

[SkinBasket]

I mean, if Ruvell Martin is so very well liked that he's worth keeping around even though he wouldn't play, just hire him to a meaningless front office job, "Vice President of Team Cameraderie" or something.

Look at that. Ruvell can even bring athletes and dorks together. He's obviously qualified to run sports shows or gen-con or something.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I mean, if Ruvell Martin is so very well liked that he's worth keeping around even though he wouldn't play, just hire him to a meaningless front office job, "Vice President of Team Cameraderie" or something.

Look at that. Ruvell can even bring athletes and dorks together. He's obviously qualified to run sports shows or gen-con or something.

Working that Garanimals outfit too. He still wears those, now THAT'S loyalty.

[sheepshead]

He could run for office, he's got that 'look'.

[mission]

just hire him to a meaningless front office job, "Vice President of Team Cameraderie" or something.

i like it ... and great post overall. the great guy sentiment is only worth so much...

[Fritz]

Check out the bling on the dude in the pink shirt! Wow!

[vince]

The best talent doesn't ALWAYS win out, but unless the best talent is a cancer/character risk, it does. That's clearly not the case here with either Swain or Martin.

Given the coaching staff's obvious experience and expertise over anyone here, understanding of what they are trying to acomplish, and in-depth film study of every play of every practice and game, suggesting they made the wrong choice with any degree of credibility is impossible.

That's as politically correct as I know how to state it.

[mraynrand]

Loyalty? You mean like to Arod? Or to College? Or to Barnett? Or to Collins? Or to Tramon? Or to James Jones?

I would say loyalty is the guy in this forum that still uses the account name "Brohm". That's the sort of love that people write songs about.

What do you know about love?

[Freak Out]

Where is the loyalty?!?

To the team that's paying you millions of dollars to make the brutal decisions that give that team the best chance of winning.

But he hasn't been winning so far. Having a family atmosphere and some loyalty to your players when they're still developing is key to establishing a good environment in my opinion.

This could be like Jon Ryan 2.0

The only thing Ruvell was "still developing" was his smile. Wanting to keep a football player on the 53 man roster because he's a nice guy is about as smart as keeping a polyp in your colon.

Wasn't he developing his Gene Simmons like tongue still as well?

[mraynrand]

Check out the bling on the dude in the pink shirt! Wow!

That's nothing compared to 'Ole Cleedeeus!

[Partial]

Where is the loyalty?!?

To the team that's paying you millions of dollars to make the brutal decisions that give that team the best chance of winning.

But he hasn't been winning so far. Having a family atmosphere and some loyalty to your players when they're still developing is key to establishing a good environment in my opinion.

This could be like Jon Ryan 2.0

2007 wasn't winning? I think you're going to have to redefine the term for me then. If they felt they got the best they could out of Ruvell, but there was someone who had more to offer the team, you're saying you want the Packers to settle for less for familiarity's sake?

One winning season is not good enough. You settle for winning 25% of the time?

If you hire a fortune 500 CEO to run Eds Waffle Hut, don't expect it to turn into IHOP over night. You have to look for improvements and see that the business is headed in the right direction.

The Packers have improved, from what I can see, in talent, every year that TT has been at the helm except the first season when he lost a lot of high $ talent for necessary salary cap moves.

I completely disagree.

[Scott Campbell]

Check out the bling on the dude in the pink shirt! Wow!

That's nothing compared to 'Ole Cleedeeus!

That was Green Day's favorite picture.

[Brohm]

Loyalty? You mean like to Arod? Or to College? Or to Barnett? Or to Collins? Or to Tramon? Or to James Jones?

I would say loyalty is the guy in this forum that still uses the account name "Brohm". That's the sort of love that people write songs about.

This Brohm was Brohm before that Brohm was Brohm No relation

Why do I feel dirty

[The Shadow]

[quote="cheesner"]

Where is the loyalty?!?

To the team that's paying you millions of dollars to make the brutal decisions that give that team the best chance of winning.

But he hasn't been winning so far. Having a family atmosphere and some loyalty to your players when they're still developing is key to establishing a good environment in my opinion.

This could be like Jon Ryan 2.0

2007 wasn't winning? I think you're going to have to redefine the term for me then. If they felt they got the best they could out of Ruvell, but there was someone who had more to offer the team, you're saying you want the Packers to settle for less for familiarity's sake?

One winning season is not good enough. You settle for winning 25% of the time?

If you hire a fortune 500 CEO to run Eds Waffle Hut, don't expect it to turn into IHOP over night. You have to look for improvements and see that the business is headed in the right direction.

The Packers have improved, from what I can see, in talent, every year that TT has been at the helm except the first season when he lost a lot of high $ talent for necessary salary cap moves.[/quote]


I agree wholeheartedly.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Loyalty? You mean like to Arod? Or to College? Or to Barnett? Or to Collins? Or to Tramon? Or to James Jones?

I would say loyalty is the guy in this forum that still uses the account name "Brohm". That's the sort of love that people write songs about.

This Brohm was Brohm before that Brohm was Brohm No relation

Why do I feel dirty

You can change your legal name for about $75. Free if you are getting married.