The Official Ruvell Martin Watch Thread

[Brando19]

{ilr]3]So what happens if he goes to the Bears or the Vikings? He could be a #2 & #3 respectively on those team.

Personally I would hate that as he seemed to be a decent guy. Not a turd who bitched and moaned liked a jilted school girl when they werent resigned like Sharper and Longwell.

You are freaking high. He would be lucky to be a 4 or a 5 on either of those squads.

vikings:

Ruvell < Berrian
Ruvell < Harvin
Ruvell < Rice
Ruvell < Wade

Bears:

Ruvell < Rashied Davis
Ruvell < Hester
Ruvell < Iglesias

Unknown whether he is better than earl bennett, but Bennett was 3rd round pick. Doubtful he is better than Bennett.

Ruvell is better at PR than all those guys.

Public Relations? He is a people person.

[Rastak]

Brando, that was cool that he called the dude that took his job....nice story.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

It seems to me that Hester has had a few good returns in his career.

PR=Public Relations

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Ruvell's a vet now, right? So odds are good he'll be picked up after the first game to avoid the guaranteed yearly salary.

didn't seem to stop anthony smith from signing.

Actually they picked him up before he cleared waivers. So he got his GB contract picked up.

Facts. Means nothing.

Didn't Ruvell have a contract?

Ruvell indeed had a contract, and it wasn't just a rookie deal since he was undrafted. Ruvell was over a $1 million, Anthony Smith was around $700k.

I thought so as you can't be in camp without one.

1 million for Ruvell...i guess a million doesn't go as far as it use to.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Brando, that was cool that he called the dude that took his job....nice story.

It isn't that uncommon.

Same story about Fred Taylor calling MJD and talking about what it was like when you become a starter.

[Lurker64]

My guess is that he ends up in Kansas City, they have a pretty dire situation at WR. Bowe is a legitimate player, but he's in the doghouse in KC for whatever reason. Bradley can play when he isn't hurt, but that's not nearly often enough. Then you've got a bunch of guys with question marks. Engram hasn't really shown he can't play but he hasn't shown yet that he can, while Copper and Lawrence pretty much are there only for their ST ability.

I mean, the Chiefs brought in Ashley Lelie for a look a few weeks ago, and I think Martin probably has more in the tank than Mr. Lelie.

You could be right, but there are better players out there right now:

Jerry Porter
Reggie Williams
Matt Jones
marvin harrison
Joe Jurevicious
Ike Hilliard
Travis Taylor
Koren Robinson
Justin McCareins
Drew Carter
Dante Hall

But with Pioli running the show, and cognizant of the fact that KC isn't going to do anything this year beyond "attempt to inspire confidence that the team is on the right track", they may pick up Ruvell as a budget option. No way they're springing for Marvin Harrison, for example.

Then again, Ruvell may not be looking for an NFL job. He may just be hanging with his pals in Green Bay, waiting to see if an injury to a WR convinces the Packers to resign him. I mean, even if he hasn't got any money, he could probably live off of Aaron Rodgers's dime for a while.

[falco]

It seems to me that Hester has had a few good returns in his career.

PR=Public Relations

[Tyrone Bigguns]

My guess is that he ends up in Kansas City, they have a pretty dire situation at WR. Bowe is a legitimate player, but he's in the doghouse in KC for whatever reason. Bradley can play when he isn't hurt, but that's not nearly often enough. Then you've got a bunch of guys with question marks. Engram hasn't really shown he can't play but he hasn't shown yet that he can, while Copper and Lawrence pretty much are there only for their ST ability.

I mean, the Chiefs brought in Ashley Lelie for a look a few weeks ago, and I think Martin probably has more in the tank than Mr. Lelie.

You could be right, but there are better players out there right now:

Jerry Porter
Reggie Williams
Matt Jones
marvin harrison
Joe Jurevicious
Ike Hilliard
Travis Taylor
Koren Robinson
Justin McCareins
Drew Carter
Dante Hall

But with Pioli running the show, and cognizant of the fact that KC isn't going to do anything this year beyond "attempt to inspire confidence that the team is on the right track", they may pick up Ruvell as a budget option. No way they're springing for Marvin Harrison, for example.

Then again, Ruvell may not be looking for an NFL job. He may just be hanging with his pals in Green Bay, waiting to see if an injury to a WR convinces the Packers to resign him. I mean, even if he hasn't got any money, he could probably live off of Aaron Rodgers's dime for a while.

I could see them going for Matt Jones. He was starting to come on..and if he is clean, he is a nice pickup.

Forgot about Fergie. LOL

Who is better: Ruvell or Fergie?

[Partial]

Ty I don't think very many of those receivers are as good today as Martin. How many of those guys have floated all around? Martin has at least been a member of a veteran, talented receiving corps (one of the best in the NFL). Some of those guys couldn't hack it in some of the worst.

[Lurker64]

Speaking of "not looking for an NFL job", can guys still make money in the Green Bay area by being "well-liked ex-Packers"? It seems like LeRoy Butler and Gilbert Brown were making a decent living off of that, but they had better resumes than Ruvell and the economy has softened somewhat...

[falco]

Not sure about Gilbert, but I think LeRoy has done everything for charity.

Bill Schroeder has made a living swinging a golf club with two heads.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Ty I don't think very many of those receivers are as good today as Martin. How many of those guys have floated all around? Martin has at least been a member of a veteran, talented receiving corps (one of the best in the NFL). Some of those guys couldn't hack it in some of the worst.

You may not think so, but that is why you aren't in the NFL. Your talent credentials took a serious hit with Money Morency.

What does being a member have to do witih anything. Being the bench warmer doesn't mean anything, or are you advocating the Bucks run out and sign mark madsen.

Every receiver i listed is either better or has been more productive...maybe not Drew Carter.

http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=9&c=12&yr=2009&nid=83&lnid=83&rc=16&pid=16

[Partial]

Ty I don't think very many of those receivers are as good today as Martin. How many of those guys have floated all around? Martin has at least been a member of a veteran, talented receiving corps (one of the best in the NFL). Some of those guys couldn't hack it in some of the worst.

You may not think so, but that is why you aren't in the NFL. Your talent credentials took a serious hit with Money Morency.

What does being a member have to do witih anything. Being the bench warmer doesn't mean anything, or are you advocating the Bucks run out and sign mark madsen.

Every receiver i listed is either better or has been more productive...maybe not Drew Carter.

http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=1...3&rc=16&pid=16

50ish catches and 6 tds? How many of those guys beat those numbers last year. I'm dying to know. No excuses. I'm actually legitmiately interested because I'm too lazy to look it up.

How many can be a dominant run blocker like him?


UPDATE: Nevermind the wikipedia stats are wrong. They;'re listed for 2008 but they're for a career.

[mission]

but they're for a career.

That sounds about right. 50 catches for Ruvell ???

Wonder if he even ever got that in college...

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Ty I don't think very many of those receivers are as good today as Martin. How many of those guys have floated all around? Martin has at least been a member of a veteran, talented receiving corps (one of the best in the NFL). Some of those guys couldn't hack it in some of the worst.

You may not think so, but that is why you aren't in the NFL. Your talent credentials took a serious hit with Money Morency.

What does being a member have to do witih anything. Being the bench warmer doesn't mean anything, or are you advocating the Bucks run out and sign mark madsen.

Every receiver i listed is either better or has been more productive...maybe not Drew Carter.

http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=1...3&rc=16&pid=16

50ish catches and 6 tds? How many of those guys beat those numbers last year. I'm dying to know. No excuses. I'm actually legitmiately interested because I'm too lazy to look it up.

How many can be a dominant run blocker like him?

Ruvell had 50ish catches and 6 tds last year? Geez, i musta missed that. I thought he had 15 catches and 1 td.

I'm willing to bet that of the receivers i listed 80% have more career catches and tds than ruvell.

there isn't a question about harrison, porter, jones, williams, jurevicous, hilliard, taylor (may be with lions), robinson, ferguson, lelie, darrel jackson.

Question marks only for McCareins, Drew Carter, Dante Hall..the issue is most likely tds for those guys.

And calling him a dominant run blocker is hilarious. Dude, get out of programming..you make drew rosenhaus look like a piker. I'm dead serious, you need to become an agent asap.

Edit: After seeing that you didn't even know ruvell's #s and actually thought he had 50 last year...only convinces me more that you need to be an agent.