Those Lucky Willliams Boys

[Rastak]

guess goodell figured it was wrong to suspend those two guys while the other two would be getting off scott free

seems fair to me

Red,

How do you feel about them letting all the guys go in 2006? Same banned substance, same circumstances, no suspensions.

NFL is good at applying the rules subjectively on the fly so this does fit right in. To be honest, it's the right thing to do after their statements regarding the federal court's ruling.

No, its not the RIGHT thing it is the equitable thing!!! All should be suspended but Minnesota law stops that from happening.

Since that didn't happen in 2006, precedent has been set as they say in legal terms. Justice has prevailed for all.

[denverYooper]

guess goodell figured it was wrong to suspend those two guys while the other two would be getting off scott free

seems fair to me

Red,

How do you feel about them letting all the guys go in 2006? Same banned substance, same circumstances, no suspensions.

NFL is good at applying the rules subjectively on the fly so this does fit right in. To be honest, it's the right thing to do after their statements regarding the federal court's ruling.

No, its not the RIGHT thing it is the equitable thing!!! All should be suspended but Minnesota law stops that from happening.

Since that didn't happen in 2006, precedent has been set as they say in legal terms. Justice has prevailed for all.

The NFL is not a court of law. They are the governing organization for a sport. I don't believe precedent really has any bearing. Sheriff Goodell didn't come into the picture until Sept 2006. In 2007, he unveiled the Personal Conduct Policy and started suspending players for being idiots. There was no precedent to do so, but it was done in the name of cleaning up the sport's image. Maybe part of that mission is to do something about these dopers

[Cheesehead Craig]

So now the US Congress is investigating this. For real?

http://wcco.com/local/williams.suspensions.congress.2.1236226.html

This has gotten retarded.

[Rastak]

So now the US Congress is investigating this. For real?

http://wcco.com/local/williams.suspensions.congress.2.1236226.html

This has gotten retarded.

Yea, there really isn't anything to investigate. The supreme court has already ruled with ample precedent. The NFL will lose on this issue.

The only way around it is to have congress create a federal law to supercede state law. That's probably a good idea, but it would be interesting to see how it was written, in effect only for sports leagues. I for one do not what to see workers rights trashed. I can see the need for MLB, NFL etc etc.....

[pbmax]

The NFL is not a court of law. They are the governing organization for a sport. I don't believe precedent really has any bearing. Sheriff Goodell didn't come into the picture until Sept 2006. In 2007, he unveiled the Personal Conduct Policy and started suspending players for being idiots. There was no precedent to do so, but it was done in the name of cleaning up the sport's image. Maybe part of that mission is to do something about these dopers

The NFL is not a court of law, but they are subjected to the rule of law like any other business. And "Sheriff" Goodell cannot touch this issue with the Personal Conduct Policy because all drug testing related matters are subject to the CBA's drug policy, not the Commissioner's Personal Conduct policy.

The fault here is that the lawyers screwed this up. Its a well known fact of Labor Law (I say that advisedly as I didn't know before this issue) that CBA language is subject to State Law unless it is specifically proscribed. That is the precedent that controls here. Its the NFL trying an end run over legal court precedent, not the players. The players hands are not clean, they discovered this legal avenue in the middle of this whole mess, but its a legit claim.

This has become a matter of cost saving to the league. They don't want to have to trade any concessions in the CBA talks for new language so they are trying to get the Federal Courts to bail them out.

[bobblehead]

If I were goodell I would announce that next year Minnesota won't have a team as their courts make the CBA unenforceable.

[MichiganPackerFan]

If I were goodell I would announce that next year Minnesota won't have a team as their courts make the CBA unenforceable.

Or they have to reform the team using an expansion-type draft from the Browns, Lions, Rams, Bucs & Skins only.

[Rastak]

If I were goodell I would announce that next year Minnesota won't have a team as their courts make the CBA unenforceable.

That could become an expensive action for the NFL....plus it does nothing to address the issue that state drug testing laws in every other state apply.

[MOBB DEEP]

If I were goodell I would announce that next year Minnesota won't have a team as their courts make the CBA unenforceable.

Or they have to reform the team using an expansion-type draft from the Browns, Lions, Rams, Bucs & Skins only.

I see you mentoned Skins mich...

Have u been noticing the doom and gloom of skins fans in this area since you're new here?

Just came from the barbershop and this "die hard" says they have hit the skids...lol..at 2-2

[MJZiggy]

If I were goodell I would announce that next year Minnesota won't have a team as their courts make the CBA unenforceable.

Or they have to reform the team using an expansion-type draft from the Browns, Lions, Rams, Bucs & Skins only.

I see you mentoned Skins mich...

Have u been noticing the doom and gloom of skins fans in this area since you're new here?

Just came from the barbershop and this "die hard" says they have hit the skids...lol..at 2-2

How is that different from what you hear here? Things will get interesting with their new acquisition...

[sunflower100]

If I were goodell I would announce that next year Minnesota won't have a team as their courts make the CBA unenforceable.

Or they have to reform the team using an expansion-type draft from the Browns, Lions, Rams, Bucs & Skins only.

You really would want to help the Vikings by giving them a chance to land Stafford?

[pbmax]

If I were goodell I would announce that next year Minnesota won't have a team as their courts make the CBA unenforceable.

Since a Federal Court ordered that the State Court case could proceed without suspensions, should Goodell move them to Greenland?

[MOBB DEEP]

If I were goodell I would announce that next year Minnesota won't have a team as their courts make the CBA unenforceable.

Or they have to reform the team using an expansion-type draft from the Browns, Lions, Rams, Bucs & Skins only.

I see you mentoned Skins mich...

Have u been noticing the doom and gloom of skins fans in this area since you're new here?

Just came from the barbershop and this "die hard" says they have hit the skids...lol..at 2-2

How is that different from what you hear here? Things will get interesting with their new acquisition...

You're right on both accounts imo...

Ive always like sherm but being away 5 years is alot

There's also conflicting reports; ESPN says that Zorn wasnt aware that they were bringing in Lewis. Whereas my barber insists that on the radio it was said that he was included in the decision and knew OF COURSE that he had to get on board or else....either way, he CANT feel at ease

Plus, Im not sure the players would play extra hard for his gig like, say Bowden's kids, would

I like snyder's intentions but dont understand why he's SO stubborn to be so young. He must be trying to be like jerry jones circa 1993. At least jones won with his formula back then. Obviously the NFL is totally diffrent now, pretty much since GB won SB

[ThunderDan]

If I were goodell I would announce that next year Minnesota won't have a team as their courts make the CBA unenforceable.

Or they have to reform the team using an expansion-type draft from the Browns, Lions, Rams, Bucs & Skins only.

I see you mentoned Skins mich...

Have u been noticing the doom and gloom of skins fans in this area since you're new here?

Just came from the barbershop and this "die hard" says they have hit the skids...lol..at 2-2

How is that different from what you hear here? Things will get interesting with their new acquisition...

You're right on both accounts imo...

Ive always like sherm but being away 5 years is alot

There's also conflicting reports; ESPN says that Zorn wasnt aware that they were bringing in Lewis. Whereas my barber insists that on the radio it was said that he was included in the decision and knew OF COURSE that he had to get on board or else....either way, he CANT feel at ease

Plus, Im not sure the players would play extra hard for his gig like, say Bowden's kids, would

I like snyder's intentions but dont understand why he's SO stubborn to be so young. He must be trying to be like jerry jones circa 1993. At least jones won with his formula back then. Obviously the NFL is totally diffrent now, pretty much since GB won SB

Zorn and Sherm Lewis are very good friends. Zorn has no problem with this.

[MOBB DEEP]

If I were goodell I would announce that next year Minnesota won't have a team as their courts make the CBA unenforceable.

Or they have to reform the team using an expansion-type draft from the Browns, Lions, Rams, Bucs & Skins only.

I see you mentoned Skins mich...

Have u been noticing the doom and gloom of skins fans in this area since you're new here?

Just came from the barbershop and this "die hard" says they have hit the skids...lol..at 2-2

How is that different from what you hear here? Things will get interesting with their new acquisition...

You're right on both accounts imo...

Ive always like sherm but being away 5 years is alot

There's also conflicting reports; ESPN says that Zorn wasnt aware that they were bringing in Lewis. Whereas my barber insists that on the radio it was said that he was included in the decision and knew OF COURSE that he had to get on board or else....either way, he CANT feel at ease

Plus, Im not sure the players would play extra hard for his gig like, say Bowden's kids, would

I like snyder's intentions but dont understand why he's SO stubborn to be so young. He must be trying to be like jerry jones circa 1993. At least jones won with his formula back then. Obviously the NFL is totally diffrent now, pretty much since GB won SB

Zorn and Sherm Lewis are very good friends. Zorn has no problem with this.

Didnt know that; when did they get close? Seattle?