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    packers in 2003 (almost in nfc championship) vs now...

    The Packers in 2003 were on the road to the superbowl if it wasn't for some bad plays in the eagles game (haunting me to this day).... In 2003 the roster was worse in my opinion than in 2006 (the season we were going in)... The only position that was a lot stronger in 2003 was the offensive line which helped Ahman Green be the beast he once was.....
    We have greatly improved in other areas such as lb crew (hawk,barnett) and in cornerback (woodson,harris)...
    If you can recall walker was the 3rd string reciever and did not play as big as a role like in 2004.. It was Driver, Fergy, then Walker (I think)......

    Here is the point to this whole topic : If the 2006 team is better than the 2003 team, than why can we expect a bad season??? Why aren't we looking into being a deep playoff bound team???

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    9-7, wildcard birth; early exit...

    Here's hoping that's enough to make Brett think about one last ride in 07-08!
    The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
    Vince Lombardi

    "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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    • #3
      because we like to be underdogs

      But really its because we had such a bad running game last year. Brett is at his best when our RBs can gain 100 yards a game.
      Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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      • #4
        7 yes and 0 no. We're drinking the kool-aid and LOVING IT!
        "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BallHawk
          7 yes and 0 no. We're drinking the kool-aid and LOVING IT!
          I like mine w/ Vodka - and not that cheap shit - top shelf baby!
          The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
          Vince Lombardi

          "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Fosco33
            Originally posted by BallHawk
            7 yes and 0 no. We're drinking the kool-aid and LOVING IT!
            I like mine w/ Vodka - and not that cheap shit - top shelf baby!
            Absolutely!

            Maybe Grey Goosely!

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            • #7
              "The only position that was a lot stronger in 2003 was the offensive line which helped Ahman Green be the beast he once was....."

              Umm... Favre was better then. Green was better then. Henderson was better then. We have the same personnel, but age has affected those guys. The OL was significantly better then--instead of three Pro Bowl caliber players (Rivera and Wahle were at that level, and Flanagan was close), we have Wells and two rookies. We had Sharper, McKenzie, and Harris in the secondary--and I'd take them over what we have now. Our special teams were much better in 2003. In fact, the only position we are better at is LB, probably TE, and possibly DT.
              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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              • #8
                d@mmit Harvey, you beat my to all my punch lines.....just like picking up Teddy Bruschi last year for the title game

                So I'll just say............what Harvey said.
                TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                  "The only position that was a lot stronger in 2003 was the offensive line which helped Ahman Green be the beast he once was....."

                  Umm... Favre was better then. Green was better then. Henderson was better then. We have the same personnel, but age has affected those guys. The OL was significantly better then--instead of three Pro Bowl caliber players (Rivera and Wahle were at that level, and Flanagan was close), we have Wells and two rookies. We had Sharper, McKenzie, and Harris in the secondary--and I'd take them over what we have now. Our special teams were much better in 2003. In fact, the only position we are better at is LB, probably TE, and possibly DT.
                  Sharper, McKEnzie and Harris?? I would take our secondary of today over these guys any day of the week. Woodson is as good or better than McKEnzie and Sharper is in just as many highlight films for his team and the opponents.

                  Typical play for Sharper and what reminds me of his play is the Jimmy Smith TD against the Packers in 2004. Smith makes a double move fakes to the inside and Sharper bites thus taking away the over coverage from Harris and Harris having to be in a foot race with him which he lost.

                  Sharper is a glory hound that takes too many chances.

                  The Oline was much better than then now. FB I think are a wash. Hendo is showing no signs of aging. QB well Favre had one bad year you dont think he can rebound? I think our TE depth is better now aswell.
                  Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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                  • #10
                    . In fact, the only position we are better at is LB, probably TE, and possibly DT.[/quote]
                    As much as I'd love to enjoy the kool-aid, I'd have to agree with Harv, and even that (we are better at LB)is a question mark..

                    Who's to say Hawke will be an impact player(he certainly has all the markings) but he is a rookie.. Same can be said about Hodge.

                    I would love to see the Pack make the playoffs and run the table but with all the question marks (no receiver to take the pressure off Driver, yeah Fergy is going to be the "man", a suspect OL, Green fully healthy then who?)

                    8 - 8 miss the tournament, but Favre goes out with a bang!
                    My Two favorite teams are the Packers, and whoever plays the Vikings!

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                    • #11
                      I think we're a better defensive team than 2003, but we're not close offensively. Best case scenario will be 9-7, which probably would mean just missing the playoffs.
                      I can't run no more
                      With that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places
                      Say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                      A thundercloud
                      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                      • #12
                        8-8 or 9-7 would be real achievements. We have a real winner in McCarthy if he can pull that off.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                          8-8 or 9-7 would be real achievements. We have a real winner in McCarthy if he can pull that off.
                          HH, I surely hope MM3 fills your thoughts! What's the chance he is Bill Walsh's "illigitimate child"? We'll take the genes!
                          My Two favorite teams are the Packers, and whoever plays the Vikings!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                            "The only position that was a lot stronger in 2003 was the offensive line which helped Ahman Green be the beast he once was....."

                            Umm... Favre was better then. Green was better then. Henderson was better then. We have the same personnel, but age has affected those guys. The OL was significantly better then--instead of three Pro Bowl caliber players (Rivera and Wahle were at that level, and Flanagan was close), we have Wells and two rookies. We had Sharper, McKenzie, and Harris in the secondary--and I'd take them over what we have now. Our special teams were much better in 2003. In fact, the only position we are better at is LB, probably TE, and possibly DT.
                            Now there is a REALITY Post ! LOL

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                            • #15
                              If they win the first game against the bears they will make it. Likely as the division champ with a 8-8 or 9-7 record.

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