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  • #31
    Torrance Marshall, Abdul Hodge, or Desmond Bishop as Most Valuable Forum Fodder/Linebacker Division?

    I'm thinking the tiebreaker goes to Torrance Marshall based on his girlfriend.
    [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by bobblehead
      Not sure I would bump a thread where I got absolutely schooled on the "jenkins is injury prone" debate.

      but you are right....bigby is still hurt.
      Schooled? Jenkins is the most injury prone player on the Packers. Just because he has played through an injury does not mean he's playing effectively. Honestly the only reason he's in there, in that case, is because he is a giant body.

      No way am I wrong on Jenkins. He missed all of last year - injury. He sucked in 2007 - Injury. He missed much of 2006.. the reason they waited for the last 4 games to move him to end - injury. 3 out of the last 3 years he missed significant time. Please explain to me how that is not injury prone?!?

      In my opinion, he is a tease and someone they should move on from after his contract. He's very good when healthy, but when he gets even banged up a little bit he morphs to average immediately.

      The most important element of being a great player is being available imo.

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      • #33
        Why don't you explain how you came up with the name "twigby" again. That's always a good read the ninth time around.
        Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Partial

          No way am I wrong on Jenkins. He missed all of last year - injury. He sucked in 2007 - Injury. He missed much of 2006.. the reason they waited for the last 4 games to move him to end - injury. 3 out of the last 3 years he missed significant time. Please explain to me how that is not injury prone?!?
          If I remember correctly KGB was getting his ass blown off the end in running downs so they put Jenkins out there to anchor the right side of the line.
          But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

          -Tim Harmston

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Partial
            Originally posted by bobblehead
            Not sure I would bump a thread where I got absolutely schooled on the "jenkins is injury prone" debate.

            but you are right....bigby is still hurt.
            Schooled? Jenkins is the most injury prone player on the Packers. Just because he has played through an injury does not mean he's playing effectively. Honestly the only reason he's in there, in that case, is because he is a giant body.

            No way am I wrong on Jenkins. He missed all of last year - injury. He sucked in 2007 - Injury. He missed much of 2006.. the reason they waited for the last 4 games to move him to end - injury. 3 out of the last 3 years he missed significant time. Please explain to me how that is not injury prone?!?

            In my opinion, he is a tease and someone they should move on from after his contract. He's very good when healthy, but when he gets even banged up a little bit he morphs to average immediately.

            The most important element of being a great player is being available imo.
            Aj Hawk is injury prone. Last year he was injured and sucked all year long. 1/3 of his career he has been hurt and sucked. Never mind that he never misses a game.
            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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            • #36
              Re: Twigby ready to set doubters straight

              Originally posted by Lurker64
              I don't think you understand Ty: any player who was injured last year, regardless of whether or not he missed playing time in the past due to injury, is "injury prone". We can make up injuries from the past in order to justify these claims if need be.
              Injury prone is fine by me; I really hate when guys are "injury erect."

              Hey Partial, how hard is it to say "Hmm, I guess he wasn't injured as much as I originally thought. Still, he has missed a lot of time the past two years."

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              • #37
                Originally posted by ThunderDan
                Originally posted by Partial

                No way am I wrong on Jenkins. He missed all of last year - injury. He sucked in 2007 - Injury. He missed much of 2006.. the reason they waited for the last 4 games to move him to end - injury. 3 out of the last 3 years he missed significant time. Please explain to me how that is not injury prone?!?
                If I remember correctly KGB was getting his ass blown off the end in running downs so they put Jenkins out there to anchor the right side of the line.
                Yes, that is the reason the opted to make the move to situational rusher. The reason they waited so long was for them to be comfortable and confident that Jenkins could handle starters snaps. I believe it was an ankle but I'm not positive.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by bobblehead
                  Originally posted by Partial
                  Originally posted by bobblehead
                  Not sure I would bump a thread where I got absolutely schooled on the "jenkins is injury prone" debate.

                  but you are right....bigby is still hurt.
                  Schooled? Jenkins is the most injury prone player on the Packers. Just because he has played through an injury does not mean he's playing effectively. Honestly the only reason he's in there, in that case, is because he is a giant body.

                  No way am I wrong on Jenkins. He missed all of last year - injury. He sucked in 2007 - Injury. He missed much of 2006.. the reason they waited for the last 4 games to move him to end - injury. 3 out of the last 3 years he missed significant time. Please explain to me how that is not injury prone?!?

                  In my opinion, he is a tease and someone they should move on from after his contract. He's very good when healthy, but when he gets even banged up a little bit he morphs to average immediately.

                  The most important element of being a great player is being available imo.
                  Aj Hawk is injury prone. Last year he was injured and sucked all year long. 1/3 of his career he has been hurt and sucked. Never mind that he never misses a game.
                  But Jenkins does miss games... How many of those games was he expected to be a starter the first few years? None, so he sat on the bench. He wasn't required to be as available. I don't think it's fair to compare the situations. Hawk has been hurt for one year out of three. Obviously one year isn't enough to form a correlation...

                  Now Harrell, on the other hand, has missed 3 years in a row basically... he's a walking injury, just like Jenkins, who consequently has had three injury plagued years in a row now.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Twigby ready to set doubters straight

                    Originally posted by sharpe1027
                    Originally posted by Lurker64
                    I don't think you understand Ty: any player who was injured last year, regardless of whether or not he missed playing time in the past due to injury, is "injury prone". We can make up injuries from the past in order to justify these claims if need be.
                    Injury prone is fine by me; I really hate when guys are "injury erect."

                    Hey Partial, how hard is it to say "Hmm, I guess he wasn't injured as much as I originally thought. Still, he has missed a lot of time the past two years."
                    He didn't miss as much time as I thought. However, he know he was active for some games.. doesn't necessarily mean he played in them.

                    Point is:

                    1. Missed all of last year with an injury after getting off to a hot start
                    2. Coaches were extremely dissapointed in his poor play in 2007 after being nicked up.
                    3. The reason the coaches couldn't start him earlier in 2006 was injuries (if I remember correctly).

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                    • #40
                      Don't mess with THUG.
                      C.H.U.D.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Twigby ready to set doubters straight

                        Originally posted by Partial
                        3. The reason the coaches couldn't start him earlier in 2006 was injuries (if I remember correctly).
                        This will probably come as a surprise to the reporters covering the game who reported KGB's benching four San Francisco offensive plays into the game and their surprise that a DT was asked to take his place.

                        There wasn't a plan, they got tired of KGB just running upfield.

                        Edit: 2 San Francisco offensive plays.

                        Jenkins played in 14 games that year.
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #42
                          Re: Twigby ready to set doubters straight

                          Originally posted by pbmax
                          Originally posted by Partial
                          3. The reason the coaches couldn't start him earlier in 2006 was injuries (if I remember correctly).
                          This will probably come as a surprise to the reporters covering the game who reported KGB's benching four San Francisco offensive plays into the game and their surprise that a DT was asked to take his place.

                          There wasn't a plan, they got tired of KGB just running upfield.

                          Edit: 2 San Francisco offensive plays.

                          Jenkins played in 14 games that year.
                          He played in 14 games but I've heard on numerous occasion (I believe from Bretsky?) that the coaches didn't make the move earlier because Jenkins was not anywhere near 100% and not playing great.

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                          • #43
                            Bigby is like Bob Sanders, expect not good.

                            He is better than what we have no but hopefully we'll have a new starter at SS next season or a vetern SS to backup Bigby. cough cough Anothy Smith.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Brandon494
                              Bigby is like Bob Sanders, expect not good.

                              He is better than what we have no but hopefully we'll have a new starter at SS next season or a vetern SS to backup Bigby. cough cough Anothy Smith.
                              Anthony Smith wasn't even ACTIVE for the Rams against the Pack. Non-injury scratch. He's that bad.
                              Originally posted by 3irty1
                              This is museum quality stupidity.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Zool
                                Originally posted by Brandon494
                                Bigby is like Bob Sanders, expect not good.

                                He is better than what we have no but hopefully we'll have a new starter at SS next season or a vetern SS to backup Bigby. cough cough Anothy Smith.
                                Anthony Smith wasn't even ACTIVE for the Rams against the Pack. Non-injury scratch. He's that bad.
                                Yeah but he is probably just learning there system. Had Roues still been on the team Martin wouldn't have been active either to the counterpoint.

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