Will Roundabouts improve or impede traffic near Lambeau

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Ty would also like to add to the test, using the turning lane..aka "suicide lane".

No, you don't stop on the highway...and then turn into the turning lane. Idiots.

[Little Whiskey]

Roundabouts should be part of the driving test like parallel parking. And they should add merging into highway traffic from an on ramp. If you can't figure out the roundabout, sorry, no license.

If you can't figure out that merging into traffic from an on ramp is easier at speed than from a complete stop, sorry, no license.

how about, knowing how to pass a tractor on the road with out giving the farmer the finger.

[Partial]

Roundabouts should be part of the driving test like parallel parking. And they should add merging into highway traffic from an on ramp. If you can't figure out the roundabout, sorry, no license.

If you can't figure out that merging into traffic from an on ramp is easier at speed than from a complete stop, sorry, no license.

Ty wholeheartedly agrees.

However, if they want to give that test, i think we, the drivers, should get to test traffic engineers and DOT employees who create entrances and exits at uncomfortable close distances which are tough enough to manage when entering the highway at full speed, but now are danger zones as in AZ we now have those fucking traffic lites at the entrance. Some with double lanes.

Yep, nothing like watching SUVs or low hp cars try to get up to speed to merge as they are being cut off by vehicles trying to exit.

We have a bunch of those here and it is basically the dumbest thing ever. The DOT decisions for improving traffic around MKE are questionable at best. Cannot wait for them to completely redo the Zoo interchange so traffic sucks less balls. No reason for that.

[MJZiggy]

You're supposed to treat it like a zipper. Cars coming in merge every other car with the ones exiting. And if you're not doing either, get the hell out of the way.

[sheepshead]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xql99I1VSdI

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Roundabouts should be part of the driving test like parallel parking. And they should add merging into highway traffic from an on ramp. If you can't figure out the roundabout, sorry, no license.

If you can't figure out that merging into traffic from an on ramp is easier at speed than from a complete stop, sorry, no license.

Ty wholeheartedly agrees.

However, if they want to give that test, i think we, the drivers, should get to test traffic engineers and DOT employees who create entrances and exits at uncomfortable close distances which are tough enough to manage when entering the highway at full speed, but now are danger zones as in AZ we now have those fucking traffic lites at the entrance. Some with double lanes.

Yep, nothing like watching SUVs or low hp cars try to get up to speed to merge as they are being cut off by vehicles trying to exit.

We have a bunch of those here and it is basically the dumbest thing ever. The DOT decisions for improving traffic around MKE are questionable at best. Cannot wait for them to completely redo the Zoo interchange so traffic sucks less balls. No reason for that.

The idea is sound, it just works better when you don't try and retrofit.

Zoo interchange: Sucked 25 years ago, it will always suck.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

You're supposed to treat it like a zipper. Cars coming in merge every other car with the ones exiting. And if you're not doing either, get the hell out of the way.

Hard to do when you have 2 lanes of traffic trying to merge into..while trying to get up to speed to do so...knowing you have less than a mile to do so.

Right now the zipper is getting caught on boxers, with occasional foreskin.

[HowardRoark]

Right now the zipper is getting caught on boxers, with occasional foreskin.

Your cultural bias is showing again.

[MJZiggy]

Right now the zipper is getting caught on boxers, with occasional foreskin.

Your cultural bias is showing again.

Regardless, my eyes are watering a bit.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Right now the zipper is getting caught on boxers, with occasional foreskin.

Your cultural bias is showing again.

Not really. Referring to location.

More an issue of "brevity is the soul of wit."

Didn't seem to flow right when i tried, "with occasional skin that is on the shaft of the penis."

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Right now the zipper is getting caught on boxers, with occasional foreskin.

Your cultural bias is showing again.

Regardless, my eyes are watering a bit.

Yes. And, that was the point.

[GBRulz]

Personally, I like them, but I'm definitely in the minority with my opinion around here. Even the Packers have been openly complaining to the DOT about a roundabout at this intersection.

Worst case scenario is there will need to be a police officer to help direct traffic before and after the game in the vicinity of the roundabout. Now, I am not familiar if there is ever any police assistance at that intersection currently as I don't travel through it on game day. Anyhow, all of the other intersections around the stadium have police directing traffic or controlling the lights, so what is the difference if they do the same at the roundabout ? If they find that traffic runs smoothly without any assistance at all, that's a double win.

[Lurker64]

Even the Packers have been openly complaining to the DOT about a roundabout at this intersection.

Well, that settles it. I've never driven on or even ever seen a roundabout, but if the Packers are opposed, so am I!

[RashanGary]

I'm an work in roadway design. I've talked to some of our traffic engineers about roundabouts to get a feel.


I LOVE the single lane roundabouts. I cannot find one weakness in the roundabout vs the 4 way stop. It flows much better in slow traffic and it flows much better when the traffic is heavy. It's much safer. Really no weakness unless you're trying to fit it in a very tight area.

The two+ lane roundabouts I'm not as sold on. It's difficult for pedestrians to cross because there is no real break in traffic. It's like playing real life frogger. Close to Lambeau I would assume pedestrian traffic would be an important consideration. Also, people who don't know how to use them (Wisconsin seems to have an abnormally large older population) really slows them down.

I think it would be cool if they had a pedestrian bridge, but how do you make that handicap accessible and what is the cost of making it safe?

When it comes to 2+ lane roundabouts, I like them, but I don't love them. I have one near me that I use quite a bit and it's working well, even during busy times, but I don't know if it's any better than a signalized intersection would be. Are they really worth the trouble of having to train all of these stubborn drivers and suffer through the early minor crashes that come with idiots on the road? I don't know? There are a lot of idiots on the road and you do have to plan for them.

[MJZiggy]

The single lane roundabout works well when there's not a lot of traffic. If flows things nicely, but on gameday it would be impossible to break into the flow in that one lane as there would be a steady stream of cars going through.

You make a pedestrian bridge accessible with outdoor grade elevators. That's what they did in Vegas when they wanted walkways over the strip, though there they put in escalators as well. I just don't see an outdoor grade escalator surviving a Wisconsin winter.

The traffic circle in Dupont is 2+ lanes with (get this) traffic lights!