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  • NFC North QB Race 2009

    Back for it's 3rd year, the bottom of the week 1 list looks uglier than normal.



    1. Favre 93.5
    2. Rodgers 92.0
    3. Cutler 43.2
    4. Stafford 27.4


    Those last two make Tarvaris Jackson's usual ratings look good!

  • #2
    I didn't see any of the Lions' loss to New Orleans, but Stafford's day had to have been absolutely brutal. Jay Cutler threw four picks and is well ahead of him.
    Teamwork is what the Green Bay Packers were all about. They didn't do it for individual glory. They did it because they loved one another.
    Vince Lombardi

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    • #3
      I judge the QB's based on games won, not personal stats. Still, the list would end up the same way....

      I kinda felt sorry for Cutler. His first game at Lambeau Feiild and he obviously wasn't ready for the intensity but I wonder how he would have fared if he had an OC who had enough sense to make his TE's work the middle of the field instead of using them as wideouts most of the time. Great throw to Jennings by Rodgers at the end.
      Always respect your opponent, even when you're kicking the crap outta him.

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      • #4
        Let the fun begin!

        Stafford missed a lot of throws. Some say it's just him being a rookie. Some hearken back to his reputation coming into the draft as being a bit scattershot.
        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

        KYPack

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        • #5
          The problem with QB ratings is that they correlate with both run proficiency and defensive stats. So they are a metric of team-wide play that doesn't take the opposition into account.

          If any other QB in the NFCN were given AP and the Bengals as an opponent, they'd have at least as high a QB rating as Favre had this week. They can all hand it off with the best of them and throw 8 yard dump offs. [/rant]

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          • #6
            Originally posted by boiga
            The problem with QB ratings is that they correlate with both run proficiency and defensive stats. So they are a metric of team-wide play that doesn't take the opposition into account.

            If any other QB in the NFCN were given AP and the Bengals as an opponent, they'd have at least as high a QB rating as Favre had this week. They can all hand it off with the best of them and throw 8 yard dump offs. [/rant]
            8 yards? You give the man way too much credit.

            Favre threw 21 passes Sunday, targeting a running back or a tight end on almost 60 percent of them. Only four of his passes traveled more than 5 yards in the air.
            Go PACK

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            • #7
              Originally posted by boiga
              The problem with QB ratings is that they correlate with both run proficiency and defensive stats. So they are a metric of team-wide play that doesn't take the opposition into account.

              If any other QB in the NFCN were given AP and the Bengals as an opponent, they'd have at least as high a QB rating as Favre had this week. They can all hand it off with the best of them and throw 8 yard dump offs. [/rant]
              Yeah, the Bengals played the Broncs AND the Vikes yesterday; tough work day...
              They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

              Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Bossman641
                8 yards? You give the man way too much credit.






                Just messn w/u Bossy. But dont act like Favre didnt throw long JUST earlier this year w/Jets; Chilly is being smart to remain conservative during Vikes extended preseason V. Browns, Lions, and 9ers no? In due time Favre will NEED to open things up but why if ther's no need? RUN THAT BALL....i wish we could do that with grant dont u?
                They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

                Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by FritzDontBlitz
                  I judge the QB's based on games won, not personal stats. Still, the list would end up the same way....

                  I kinda felt sorry for Cutler. His first game at Lambeau Feiild and he obviously wasn't ready for the intensity but I wonder how he would have fared if he had an OC who had enough sense to make his TE's work the middle of the field instead of using them as wideouts most of the time. Great throw to Jennings by Rodgers at the end.
                  I was thinking the same thing about the TE's. But Olsen did drop two that hit him right in his mitts over the middle I believe.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bossman641
                    Originally posted by boiga
                    The problem with QB ratings is that they correlate with both run proficiency and defensive stats. So they are a metric of team-wide play that doesn't take the opposition into account.

                    If any other QB in the NFCN were given AP and the Bengals as an opponent, they'd have at least as high a QB rating as Favre had this week. They can all hand it off with the best of them and throw 8 yard dump offs. [/rant]
                    8 yards? You give the man way too much credit.

                    Favre threw 21 passes Sunday, targeting a running back or a tight end on almost 60 percent of them. Only four of his passes traveled more than 5 yards in the air.
                    The offense looked out of sync all around.

                    But.....

                    34 points! Dump offs, 110 yards passing, and sacks galore for 34 points and no turnovers.

                    I'll take that every game.
                    Minnesota Vikings
                    NFC North Champions 2008 and 2009.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by FritzDontBlitz
                      I judge the QB's based on games won, not personal stats.
                      EXACTLY; but you know folk on either side of the Favre/Aaaron comparison will be chompn at the bit to throw numbers out there as if we're talkn about pro tennis and not the ultimate TEAM game of fball....

                      Favre is 90 yrs old and Aaaron IS the man of the moment and future...prety simple really
                      They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

                      Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SMACKTALKIE
                        The offense looked out of sync all around.

                        But.....

                        34 points! Dump offs, 110 yards passing, and sacks galore for 34 points and no turnovers.

                        I'll take that every game.
                        Can't argue with a win, but they won't play Ohio State every week. Just the first three weeks.
                        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MOBB DEEP
                          Originally posted by FritzDontBlitz
                          I judge the QB's based on games won, not personal stats.
                          EXACTLY; but you know folk on either side of the Favre/Aaaron comparison will be chompn at the bit to throw numbers out there as if we're talkn about pro tennis and not the ultimate TEAM game of fball....
                          Much like many will do if Favre has a monster game this season. You're not helping the situation with shit like this Mobb.
                          Originally posted by 3irty1
                          This is museum quality stupidity.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                            Originally posted by SMACKTALKIE
                            The offense looked out of sync all around.

                            But.....

                            34 points! Dump offs, 110 yards passing, and sacks galore for 34 points and no turnovers.

                            I'll take that every game.
                            Can't argue with a win, but they won't play Ohio State every week. Just the first three weeks.
                            True, but the offense will not be out of sync every week either.

                            And.......... AD.
                            Minnesota Vikings
                            NFC North Champions 2008 and 2009.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Zool
                              Originally posted by MOBB DEEP
                              Originally posted by FritzDontBlitz
                              I judge the QB's based on games won, not personal stats.
                              EXACTLY; but you know folk on either side of the Favre/Aaaron comparison will be chompn at the bit to throw numbers out there as if we're talkn about pro tennis and not the ultimate TEAM game of fball....
                              Much like many will do if Favre has a monster game this season. You're not helping the situation with shit like this Mobb.
                              I disagree Z; i dont recall people who still support favre engaging in any mean-spirited gloating last year when he played well. Do you? Remember evrything was kept in one thread and no Favre supporters EVER bashed aaron if i remember correctly. NO WAY you can say my post was stirring pot either.... . I simply said I agree that numbers arent as important in sports like fball


                              DAYUM...axe to grind?
                              They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

                              Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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