How 'Bout That Officiating?

[sharpe1027]

As was said before, the Packers will just get a generic "I'm sorry" letter from the league on behalf of the officials and that will be it.

not sure what you want from the league? give them a free call later, add more points, give them a win plus, a blow job?

Oh, something crazy like accountability, a fine maybe. Full time officials who work in the offseason to stay on top of the game.

If a certain official has a trackable record of calling 4th quarter holds against a certain team fire his ass. How about reviewing all the calls made and see what % of them are shitty and replace him??

It is amazing what even the threat of accountablity can have. On the other hand, when people believe they will not be held accountable, they do some crazy shit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment

IMO, more transparency for the public would be a good thing.

[MichiganPackerFan]

Where the Bad-Call Bar is Set
by Kevin Hench

Week 1 was absolutely spectacular in terms of NFL officials delivering early and often on even more crappy calls than could normally be expected.

It started in the season opener on Thursday night. Referee Bill Levy — who Seahawks' fans will remember as the Steelers' 12th man in Super Bowl XL — made a terrible holding call against Pittsburgh. But that was nothing compared to the flag the back judge threw for pass interference on Troy Polamalu after the receiver he was covering perfectly jumped on his back. The call left Cris Collinsworth and Al Michaels dumbstruck in the booth.

On Sunday night, the Packers' Al Harris was called for illegal contact away from the ball for tapping a Bears receiver perhaps five-and-an-eighth yards downfield. The call kept a Bears' drive alive, led to a score and once again left the (deservedly) ubiquitous Collinsworth incredulous.

On Monday night, New England's Vince Wilfork was flagged for roughing the passer by executing a move that was heretofore known as a "tackle." This time it was Ron Jaworski's turn to express disbelief at the call he just saw, explaining that not only had Wilfork done nothing wrong, he had executed his takedown as expertly as a nose tackle could be expected to.

But the stripes weren't done ruining Week 1. In a merciless letter-of-the-law interpretation — of a rule that should be amended — referee Carl Cheffers got his magnifying glass out and denied the Raiders' Louis Murphy an obvious TD catch, apparently because Murphy did not maintain possession of the ball all the way to his mantle. It was a play that never would have been challenged by a coach outside of two minutes. Replay was not designed to overturn plays that 99.9 of all observers believe was made correctly on the field. In the final game of Week 1 it was analyst Steve Young left bewildered by this picayune, hair-and-fiber call.

It's tough to choose a winner from this batch. But in terms of setting the bar for Week 2, I'd say the worst call of the season so far was the illegal contact on Al Harris.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/10087784/Week-2-preview:-Getting-hot-in-here

[MadtownPacker]

Wow, you are hardcore telling us how you are gonna smoke someone. Now go back to your ipod and listen to some more NWA jams you fake piece of shit.

Wow that was harsh, buddy.

Actually, Snake has been a local to my local gun range for the past 15 years. I'm also versed in hand to hand combat (Jiu-Jitsu from my ex-girlfriend who won titles at black belt in Karate in WI and went to state with titles out of Wittenburg) and helped train the Snake in as much...I still kick the shit out my training bags...and hard-head shit-talking douchebags that think they can fight or talk trash on forums....

Not that I need help at 6'5" 230 to kick the shit out of punks (or have EVER had a problem doing it at fucking all). Is that a challenge, Mad? Bring it old man. What's your deal?

Had my .50 Cal for about 6 years now and versed in it. I'm no gun-nut, but know what I'm doing. Break into my house, then, Mad...I dare ya.

Maybe you should capitalize on being a so-so poster that just talks shit with a HUGE ass ego that couldn't bring it physically....You don't want this.

I crave the PackerRat game. Wow. Just wow.

**Note...Sorry I go to do it but here it is...

Mad is just jealous as fuck that I respect the current Admin (Joe). After he made some previous, and similar BS comments on Snake on other topics, I tried to be civil.

I PM'd Mad with why/what's the deal? etc. typed PM's...Snake never insulted, never called names, etc. as I've tried.

He's (Mad) had 100% hate for Snake cuz I praised Joe (Admin) in the past and not him (MadTown). Sobeit.

I tried over the past week to find out what's the deal on PM's and been civil as all hell (I could post those up, as you'd be surprised at how much of a hothead Mad is if you didn't already.....he's really not nice), but now the ugly colors strive though.

Whatever. I won't stoop to the condescending name-calling....MadTown just shows how it is. It's BS. I won't stoop to his level, as I could post up the BS he PM'd me back, it's really childish and insulting, but Snake is beyond that.

It's just amazing, really. Never insulted him, called names, threatened, but you'd be amazed what in 5 or 6 PM's he's (Mad) sent the Snake...crazy stuff way beyond his post on here.....all cuz I like Joe (Admin) and didn't suck his MadCock. Jealous ass stuff. What a crock. I told him I wasn't gonna spill it, but I really tried and am sick of his insults on PM and on this topic. I said hey, let's even i out. Nope...Just more insane insults, Mad, eh?

I'm not gonna call names, threaten to kick someone's ass, or brag how they would just go all out and try and be a dick on every post....but he DID all those things on PM with me. Just know that.

Mad is not a good guy on here. Most of you know it, and the few friends he's had are mutual to me (Snake). I really tried with PM's...but Mad is just nuts talking crap. It's insane how many insults/how much he's threatened me cuz he's not running Rats/jealous of Joe. I tried in PM's, but after this post from Mad. Fuck it.... I'm So..............................sick of it.

Here it is...I warned him to handle in PM's if he had a problem with Snake liking Joe. But sobeit. I'm not gonna put up with it anymore after this BS post by Mad again. I have a good time jesting with some, but damn, Mad, here it is. I don't feel bad laying it out. If I posted up your PM's, some peeps (most know you are just an insulting hothead) would be floored with how low-class you sound. I mean really low class. It's amazing how low-brow you go in those PM's. I told you to not do this (be a dick), but you did. I'll post this if I have to. It's nasty. Good luck.

I have no problem with ya like I said on PM. Lighten up and peace. I got much more problems than this forum to deal with....I told you that and tried to make peace. Obviously you are an uncaring-dart throwing beast....sobeit.

You say 110% fuck Snake cuz I suck Joe's cock, but I still say peace,

Snake.

Yes your life is so busy and important you took the time to write this long ass crybaby post. I will keep mine much more short and simple.

Fuck you and the tricycle you rode in on. Post any PMs you wanna post. I really dont give a damn. I didnt do anything besides tell you to fuck off. If I lose those "friends" then they didnt have much attachment to begin with. Oh fucking well. As for Joe, if anything I feel for him having to deal with stupid redneck White boys like you. Have no reason to hate on him.

So take your big bad "6'5" self to your tub, put the eagle in your mouth and pull the trigger so the world can be a better place.

[red]

[boiga]

Where the Bad-Call Bar is Set
by Kevin Hench

Week 1 was absolutely spectacular in terms of NFL officials delivering early and often on even more crappy calls than could normally be expected.

It started in the season opener on Thursday night. Referee Bill Levy — who Seahawks' fans will remember as the Steelers' 12th man in Super Bowl XL — made a terrible holding call against Pittsburgh. But that was nothing compared to the flag the back judge threw for pass interference on Troy Polamalu after the receiver he was covering perfectly jumped on his back. The call left Cris Collinsworth and Al Michaels dumbstruck in the booth.

On Sunday night, the Packers' Al Harris was called for illegal contact away from the ball for tapping a Bears receiver perhaps five-and-an-eighth yards downfield. The call kept a Bears' drive alive, led to a score and once again left the (deservedly) ubiquitous Collinsworth incredulous.

On Monday night, New England's Vince Wilfork was flagged for roughing the passer by executing a move that was heretofore known as a "tackle." This time it was Ron Jaworski's turn to express disbelief at the call he just saw, explaining that not only had Wilfork done nothing wrong, he had executed his takedown as expertly as a nose tackle could be expected to.

But the stripes weren't done ruining Week 1. In a merciless letter-of-the-law interpretation — of a rule that should be amended — referee Carl Cheffers got his magnifying glass out and denied the Raiders' Louis Murphy an obvious TD catch, apparently because Murphy did not maintain possession of the ball all the way to his mantle. It was a play that never would have been challenged by a coach outside of two minutes. Replay was not designed to overturn plays that 99.9 of all observers believe was made correctly on the field. In the final game of Week 1 it was analyst Steve Young left bewildered by this picayune, hair-and-fiber call.

It's tough to choose a winner from this batch. But in terms of setting the bar for Week 2, I'd say the worst call of the season so far was the illegal contact on Al Harris.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/1...ng-hot-in-here

That raiders "obvious TD catch" was actually a good call by the officials. The ball was loose between the receivers legs and he scooped it up off the ground. The ESPN second team completely embarrassed itself by not showing the proper angle where you could see the ball come out. If the ball had just moved in his hands, it would have been a TD, but it was on the ground rolling around. Steve Young's an asshat for trying to call that a disputable call.

[mraynrand]

That raiders "obvious TD catch" was actually a good call by the officials. The ball was loose between the receivers legs and he scooped it up off the ground. The ESPN second team completely embarrassed itself by not showing the proper angle where you could see the ball come out. If the ball had just moved in his hands, it would have been a TD, but it was on the ground rolling around. Steve Young's an asshat for trying to call that a disputable call.

That's what I saw - the ball moves in his hands and his hands were holding the ball to his body. He caught the ball cleanly and as he went to the ground, the nose of the ball hit the ground and moved in his hands, but it never popped out and he had control of the ball. I thought it was a clear touchdown.

[swede]

That raiders "obvious TD catch" was actually a good call by the officials. The ball was loose between the receivers legs and he scooped it up off the ground. The ESPN second team completely embarrassed itself by not showing the proper angle where you could see the ball come out. If the ball had just moved in his hands, it would have been a TD, but it was on the ground rolling around. Steve Young's an asshat for trying to call that a disputable call.

That's what I saw - the ball moves in his hands and his hands were holding the ball to his body. He caught the ball cleanly and as he went to the ground, the nose of the ball hit the ground and moved in his hands, but it never popped out and he had control of the ball. I thought it was a clear touchdown.

I didn't see the play, but if the referee has seen multiple views and used up several minutes in deliberation it seems to me that he is missing the "indisputable" evidence he needs to overturn a call. I'll grant that the official may see the clear evidence he needs in video from a fourth angle after several minutes of looking at other angles. The Steeler's Super Bowl winning catch was probably an example odf that.

But I thought that it was clear that when the video evidence wasn't clear that the on-the-field decision would be upheld.

[boiga]

That's what I saw - the ball moves in his hands and his hands were holding the ball to his body. He caught the ball cleanly and as he went to the ground, the nose of the ball hit the ground and moved in his hands, but it never popped out and he had control of the ball. I thought it was a clear touchdown.

Here's a video of Pereira discussing that call . They show the relevant angle a bunch of times, but at second 46 you can clearly see the ball rolling between his legs. The receiver actually knees the ball back into his own grip while it's rolling.

The ball was loose and it was a heads up call by the stripes.

[mraynrand]

That's what I saw - the ball moves in his hands and his hands were holding the ball to his body. He caught the ball cleanly and as he went to the ground, the nose of the ball hit the ground and moved in his hands, but it never popped out and he had control of the ball. I thought it was a clear touchdown.

Here's a video of Pereira discussing that call . They show the relevant angle a bunch of times, but at second 46 you can clearly see the ball rolling between his legs. The receiver actually knees the ball back into his own grip while it's rolling.

The ball was loose and it was a heads up call by the stripes.

OK, that reverse angle shows it clearly. No TD.

[boiga]

Yup, and that's how you can tell the ESPN crew were so bad that night. Any decent editor or announcer would have found that camera angle early and shown it often to explain the call.

Now all of Raider nation thinks they got jobbed. Someone at ESPN should get fired over that.

[SkinBasket]

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I think the real problem here is mission. If Madtown thinks he's snake and Snake thinks he's Mobb, there'll never be peace here. He obviously needs to be banned.

[Cheesehead Craig]

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I think the real problem here is mission. If Madtown thinks he's snake and Snake thinks he's Mobb, there'll never be peace here. He obviously needs to be banned.

Snake, Mad or Mobb? But if each thinks he's the other who actually leaves?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

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I think the real problem here is mission. If Madtown thinks he's snake and Snake thinks he's Mobb, there'll never be peace here. He obviously needs to be banned.

Snake, Mad or Mobb? But if each thinks he's the other who actually leaves?

We didn't have this problem when it was only Ty and Mission as wiggers.

Snake has to go!!!

[hoosier]

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I think the real problem here is mission. If Madtown thinks he's snake and Snake thinks he's Mobb, there'll never be peace here. He obviously needs to be banned.

Snake, Mad or Mobb? But if each thinks he's the other who actually leaves?

We didn't have this problem when it was only Ty and Mission as wiggers.

Snake has to go!!!

Any decision of this magnitude needs to be approached carefully and fairly. I think we should use the quality of each poster's best insult as the measuring stick. Madtown wrote:

Yes your life is so busy and important you took the time to write this long ass crybaby post. I will keep mine much more short and simple.

Fuck you and the tricycle you rode in on.

I ask you, is there anything in Snake's body of work that can match that?