Runyan to Packers?

[PackerTimer]

I just don't get how Barbre is getting a free pass by the coaches to go another week.

You gotta do some shuffling, minimaly. Hell, Spitz would be a better RT then what I saw out of Barbre, and in that case you could slap well's at center.

Thats gotta be better then leaving barbre out there to suck all game.

I doubt he's getting a free pass, he's probably going be working his ass off for the next week. But you just don't bench a guy after one game. He played really bad and he'll have to do better but you definetely have to stay with him for a few more weeks.

[boiga]

I doubt he's getting a free pass, he's probably going be working his ass off for the next week. But you just don't bench a guy after one game. He played really bad and he'll have to do better but you definetely have to stay with him for a few more weeks.

Agreed. I'm just trying to remind myself how bad Colledge stank in 2007. Now he's one of the best OL men on the team. Barbre's not Moll, who lacked the physical skills to play at a high level. He just needs to get his technique down pat and learn from his opponents.

If Daryn can improve after how bad he was, Barbre should have no problem.

[pbmax]

McCarthy reaffirmed that Barbre will be starting next week, so don't get your hopes up for this one.

Yeah, I give this about a 1% chance of happening.

It's against Thompson's religion or something.

That said, I'd do it.

Runyan has been playing RT since the fourth grade.

He's get ARod's right side covered from edge rushers.

He basically mugs those guys until they quit trying to get wide on him.

Ron Wolf would have him in town today.

We had, like, 4 LT's during our first SB run until he found a guy to protect BF's blindside.

Yes we did but what Kevin Seifert fails to mention/remember is that we often sent help to Wilkerson's side when he faced a tough assignment.

Runyan was just medically cleared, so while he is older and slower, the timing is why he hasn't signed, not his play. He is quite like Tauscher's situation only about 4 weeks earlier in the rehab schedule.

[bobblehead]

I just don't get how Barbre is getting a free pass by the coaches to go another week.

You gotta do some shuffling, minimaly. Hell, Spitz would be a better RT then what I saw out of Barbre, and in that case you could slap well's at center.

Thats gotta be better then leaving barbre out there to suck all game.

My guess is the Breno will find himself on the gameday actives next sunday. But agree with others, you can't bail on Babre after one start, if he continues to be a revolving door......

[retailguy]

My guess is the Breno will find himself on the gameday actives next sunday. But agree with others, you can't bail on Babre after one start, if he continues to be a revolving door......

What if he gets Rodgers injured or on IR? Then can we bail on him?

[bobblehead]

My guess is the Breno will find himself on the gameday actives next sunday. But agree with others, you can't bail on Babre after one start, if he continues to be a revolving door......

What if he gets Rodgers injured or on IR? Then can we bail on him?

He's not the LT, Rodgers should not get injured due to Babre.

[KYPack]

My guess is the Breno will find himself on the gameday actives next sunday. But agree with others, you can't bail on Babre after one start, if he continues to be a revolving door......

What if he gets Rodgers injured or on IR? Then can we bail on him?

He's not the LT, Rodgers should not get injured due to Babre.

No way, Bobble. Yes, your LT can give up some vicious sacks, but the RT has to play better than Barbre has so far, or ARod is gonna get racked up. Those crashing DE's can tear you up, regardless of the side they come from.

Proof of that was some of the hits Rodgers got Sunday night, some of them the result of poor play from our RT.

[retailguy]

So to repeat what I asked earlier... Is it worth the risk to allow Barbre to continue to "learn" if the cost is a healthy franchise quarterback?

I recognize that the staff "evaluated" him throughout offseason workouts and preseason games, but, based on what was displayed last night can anyone say here, that he's ready?

Many of you say, 'THIS IS THE YEAR'. This is the window. Can this team sustain the loss of it's franchise QB? Is it worth the risk?

No one is perfect, but Barbre played the worst game I've witnessed in recent memory. Colledge was awful as a rookie, and bad as a 1st & 2nd year player. I do not recall a game that Colledge played that was that bad.

Is it worth the risk? Or, would it be acceptable to have a seasoned (over the hill) vet sitting on the bench to come in if it gets this bad again?

Alternatively, do you put your faith in Breno sitting on the bench? Really want to hear your thoughts.

[Waldo]

No one is perfect, but Barbre played the worst game I've witnessed in recent memory. Colledge was awful as a rookie, and bad as a 1st & 2nd year player. I do not recall a game that Colledge played that was that bad.

Are we forgetting the 2-3 times last year that Tausher was thrown into AR by Abraham. At least Barbre can run block.

Last year Tausher was getting a vet pass, but there was more than 1 game that was at best marginally better than what Barbre did, and LIS, Barbre can run block better than Tausher did last year, when he was generally ineffective at best.

Recall the talk of benching Tausher last year. It came right after the Atlanta game.

Brady tonight was hit as much in the first half as Aaron was all game.

Mike should have moved to start helping Barbre with chips at least on every play much earlier. Aaron could have changed the protection too. It is one thing for a player to struggle with protection, quite another to do nothing about it. That didn't have to happen.

[retailguy]

I believe there is a difference between benching a seasoned vet and a guy starting his first game. Ogunleye was in the backfield a hell of a lot more often than 2-3 times. It was at least 10 times in the first half. The second half was not much better.

I question whether or not Barbre is ready for OJT training. I recognize that you can't determine that based on one performance. That's why I asked if it was worth the risk with the franchise qb?

[Fosco33]

I believe there is a difference between benching a seasoned vet and a guy starting his first game. Ogunleye was in the backfield a hell of a lot more often than 2-3 times. It was at least 10 times in the first half. The second half was not much better.

I question whether or not Barbre is ready for OJT training. I recognize that you can't determine that based on one performance. That's why I asked if it was worth the risk with the franchise qb?

Had this in the gameday thread... as I quickly rewatched the 1st half during halftime.

Barbre blew pass protection 10 times (3 sacks, 5 hurries, 2 other) in the 1st half and at least 2 more in the 2nd half.

M3 tried to spread the blame saying the whole line was off - but I think he's protecting Barbre's ego/confidence.

[Fritz]

He was terrible in the first half, poor in the third quarter, and mildly lousy in the fourth.

So he did get better. This team has invested a lot of time in Rogers, yes, and he needs to be protected. But they've also invested a lot of time and training in Barbre. I would keep him in there but be ready for some scheme changes if he needs help. Give him some training wheels.

[Badgerinmaine]

Frightening resemblance to Don Turnbee, the guy the Onion always uses when they want to make fun of fast food fans:

[Fritz]

A fellow Michigan grad! And he certainly does look like he graduated from the "Harvard of the Midwest"!

Weer smrt, us Mishigin guyz.

Doesn't UMI have "flexible" admissions standards like all other Big 10 schools except NW?

Please, don't insult the U of M. Our fine U provides scholastically challenged student-athletes opportunities to receive a world renowned education. In addition, alums will often assist needy student athletes with, uh, financial aid matters, making sure those students without transportation need never use anything but the safest, newest SUV's available. Furthermore, the more intelligent and academically oriented students on campus offer their tutoring expertise so people who may be less naturally skilled in the thinking arts can receive the benefits of a U of M degree.

Flexible admissions. Puh-lease.

Their pay for play program didn't help them against the Utes last year.

:P

Pay for Play? Scott, you misunderstand completely! It is merely a concerted effort by a group of dedicated human beings, ensuring that others, less academically oriented, receive the same learning opportunities as everyone else.

[Gunakor]

My guess is the Breno will find himself on the gameday actives next sunday. But agree with others, you can't bail on Babre after one start, if he continues to be a revolving door......

What if he gets Rodgers injured or on IR? Then can we bail on him?

It's too late at that point. Rodgers gets IR'ed and we're fucked for the season. We have to find a capable RT that is ready to start and perform at an NFL level NOW. Before this happens. Before the season is lost.