Wrong about Chillar

[RashanGary]

Last year, I couldn't stand Chillar. I thought he was soft, kept getting run all over.


Maybe it was the new environment, maybe it was the scheme. . .


Whatever the case, besides Aaron Kampman, Chillar is our best linebacker. He's fantastic in coverage and our best interior blitzer. He looks average against the run. In sub defense where coverage and QB pressure are at a premium, that combination of skills makes a DC's job easier and should lead to a lot of big plays.

Last year, Chillar wasn't asked to blitz. Our linebackers seemed to always be chasing TE's and RB's. This year, they're playing downhill. Chillar seems to be our best downhill LB.

[RashanGary]

Along with Collins, Colledge, Spitz, Kampman, Pickett and Jolly; we can add Chillar to the list of guys I want resigned this year.

Get it started Ted, we will be a dramatically better team with these veterans still in the fold next year.

[Tarlam!]

As has been countlessly pointed out, the LB's job is made so much easier by having a stout DL. Ignoring schemes, I would say our DL this season with Jenkins in it, is far superior to last season's with him out of it.

Next, last year's ILB, Barnett was injured and replaced by our otherwise Will backer, which didn't go so well. That screwed up LBing, period at Green Bay.

I think Chillar is the same guy. He is coached differently maybe, has a different role maybe, but essentially to think he was weak was silly.

Kudos on your thread title, though, Nick. At least you're prepared to man up about it.

[Deputy Nutz]

Chillar is a good blitzer, is decent in coverage, he is really no better or worse than Barnett or Hawk.

He is athletic, probably our most athletic linebacker, but he is a liability in the run game. He is a perfect fit for this defense that relies on different personel to run it's scheme.

I am beginning to warm on Chillar because this defense brings out another face of his game, his ability to blitz something you never saw last year.

[RashanGary]

I am beginning to warm on Chillar because this defense brings out another face of his game, his ability to blitz something you never saw last year.

That's it for me too. They're showcasing his best skills. The last defense didn't do that.

[Partial]

I was listening to WSSP and they had Bedard on. He said all of training camp the two linebackers who were blowing things up and wreaking havoc (for better or worse) was Chillar and Bishop.

Cannot believe they didn't use Bishop at all last week. He is a playmaker imo. He may not be the most well rounded player but he is exceptional at blitzing and blowing up the run.

[Patler]

I was listening to WSSP and they had Bedard on. He said all of training camp the two linebackers who were blowing things up and wreaking havoc (for better or worse) was Chillar and Bishop.

Cannot believe they didn't use Bishop at all last week. He is a playmaker imo. He may not be the most well rounded player but he is exceptional at blitzing and blowing up the run.

This just proves what is often true in all pro sports - it is not necessarily how well you do at times, but how often you do wrong that matters most. They seem to not yet trust that Bishop will not make a mistake, or they would be playing him more for the positives you mention.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Between our LBs that actually play a lot (minus Matthews because I haven't seen enough of him), I'd rank them like this in each category

Run defense: Hawk, Barnett, Kampman, Poppinga, Chillar
Pass rushing: Kampman, Chillar, Barnett, Hawk, Poppinga
Coverage: Barnett, Chillar, Hawk, Poppinga, Kampman

Matthews appears to have the potential to excel in all three areas. I like the combinaton of LBs.

[Fritz]

McCarthy did say this week that he wants to get Bishop on the field with the defense this weekend.

I do think too that a stout defensive line is making the linebackers look better. Let's hope they stay healthy, all of them, and that Raji gets back to help, too.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Between our LBs that actually play a lot (minus Matthews because I haven't seen enough of him), I'd rank them like this in each category

Run defense: Hawk, Barnett, Kampman, Poppinga, Chillar
Pass rushing: Kampman, Chillar, Barnett, Hawk, Poppinga
Coverage: Barnett, Chillar, Hawk, Poppinga, Kampman

Matthews appears to have the potential to excel in all three areas. I like the combinaton of LBs.

I think Hawk is pretty damn good in coverage and I'd rank him at the top. There's a big dropoff though in pass coverage after the top 3 though.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I think Hawk is pretty damn good in coverage and I'd rank him at the top. There's a big dropoff though in pass coverage after the top 3 though.

It was also hard to decide on Barnett or Kampman in rush defense. Barnett will go sideline to sideline, but Kampman is stout at the point and he can shed blockers. I have to see how he does more out in space.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I am beginning to warm on Chillar .

that's not exactly eating crow, but probably best we're gonna get.

Where is Waldo?

[rbaloha1]

I was listening to WSSP and they had Bedard on. He said all of training camp the two linebackers who were blowing things up and wreaking havoc (for better or worse) was Chillar and Bishop.

Cannot believe they didn't use Bishop at all last week. He is a playmaker imo. He may not be the most well rounded player but he is exceptional at blitzing and blowing up the run.

MM plans to get Bishop on the field. Keep the rotation going as fresh players can make impact players at the end of the game.

[rbaloha1]

I am beginning to warm on Chillar .

that's not exactly eating grow, but probably best we're gonna get.

Where is Waldo?

Yes, it was comical to read that assessment when Chillar was continually praised by the staff as possibly the best lb in training camp. The scheme fits his abilities. Chilly is not a read and react lb just like Poop

[bobblehead]

Chillar is a good blitzer, is decent in coverage, he is really no better or worse than Barnett or Hawk.

He is athletic, probably our most athletic linebacker, but he is a liability in the run game. He is a perfect fit for this defense that relies on different personel to run it's scheme.

I am beginning to warm on Chillar because this defense brings out another face of his game, his ability to blitz something you never saw last year.

Guy led the team in tackles against the bears posting 7 solo and 1 assist. Sooner or later that myth that waldo started: "weak against the run" is going to get dispelled. With the rams he was primarily a first and second down LB who was considered good against the run, but soft against the pass.