Wrong about Chillar

[SkinBasket]

The way that I see it is they're trying to keep the locker room at peace and quiet loud mouths like Barnett by having Chillar sit but still play a lot of snaps. IMO he probably should be starting, especially given the lack of time Barnett has played in camp.

You certainly have a lot of knowledge of the Packer locker room and personal relationships. Between this and the utter devastation on and off the field you reported following the Ruvell Martin episode, it's a wonder we can still field a team.


Or these could just be football decisions. Maybe.

[bobblehead]

Chillar is a guy who has a chance to really succeed in a defense where a smart DC will consistently put him in positions that capitalize on his strengths and minimize his weaknesses. He's quite good at what he does well, but he's quite bad at what he does poorly. Personally, he's not a guy I would feel comfortable about starting in base unless the other 6 of the front 7 are exceptional players against the run, but he should get a lot of snaps in every game this season (unless the other team is just determined not to pass).

I would defer much more to Capers and McCarthy than to anybody on any message board as to how much he should be playing, when, and in what positions. I certainly don't think he should be starting, but I'm glad he's on the team.

BULLSHIT for the 100th time. The man is NOT weak against the run. He played base all fucking game long. He led the team in tackles. While Hawk and Barnett were rotating Chillar was in the game. Barnett got the start as veterans respect, but chillar was the one in the game.

Not bull****. Chillar was not in base. We spent most of the game in nickel to counter the TEs.

But Chillar had a play in nickel (with Barnett I think) where a guard and one other blocker got on him and the other LBer and Chillar could not get off the block until the back was past.

Now everyone has bad plays, so I can't say this is par for the course, but when you see Chillar fill a gap, take on a block, disengage and make the tackle while the back is in front of him, then I will join you in asking for him to start in base. Until I see it, I trust what I saw last year. Somebody has go to stay home and plug the gap in base and I don't think that guy is Chillar.

Exactly, everyone has some bad plays. I see Hawk get washed by guards all the time...probably because he is in on base more often so it happens to him more often. Barnett virtually NEVER takes on a guard, he relies on sideline to sideline speed to make most of his tackles in the run game.

Look, I'm a barnett fan, I think Hawk is solid, I just think the COMPLETE skill set of chillar is superior to both, and the fact he was on the field more against a run first team featuring Matt Forte, I would say the coaching staff likes him plenty.

BTW, where did someone find the snaps played, I looked all over for it.

edit: my bad on the "he played base". I meant he played on first and 10 plenty, and in all downs and situations. In the TRUE 3-4 base that we played he was not in the lineup. We just happened to play LESS of that than the lineups he DID play in.

[SnakeLH2006]

Re: Wrong about Chillar

Last year, I couldn't stand Chillar. I thought he was soft, kept getting run all over.


Maybe it was the new environment, maybe it was the scheme. . .


Whatever the case, besides Aaron Kampman, Chillar is our best linebacker. He's fantastic in coverage and our best interior blitzer. He looks average against the run. In sub defense where coverage and QB pressure are at a premium, that combination of skills makes a DC's job easier and should lead to a lot of big plays.

Last year, Chillar wasn't asked to blitz. Our linebackers seemed to always be chasing TE's and RB's. This year, they're playing downhill. Chillar seems to be our best downhill LB.

Good topic, and Snake agrees. I've warmed to Chillar, too. He actually looks like he has football instincts this year. Must be the scheme, as it's making all the LB's look faster, and more explosive...well except for slimmed-down Kampy. What happened to that guy?

[HarveyWallbangers]

I thought Kampman was good in this game. Stopped the run, got a few obvious pressures, and wasn't exposed in coverage.

BTW, I like Kampman, Hawk, Chillar, Barnett, and Matthews (even Poppinga as a backup or situational player).

Great play by Chillar here:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/chicago-bears/09000d5d8129bb24/Packers-Defense-Highlight-WK-01-vs-Bears-2009

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The way that I see it is they're trying to keep the locker room at peace and quiet loud mouths like Barnett by having Chillar sit but still play a lot of snaps. IMO he probably should be starting, especially given the lack of time Barnett has played in camp.

You certainly have a lot of knowledge of the Packer locker room and personal relationships. Between this and the utter devastation on and off the field you reported following the Ruvell Martin episode, it's a wonder we can still field a team.


Or these could just be football decisions. Maybe.

Well, he was player of the game week 1 after getting a game ball.

He was player of training camp at LB according to the coaches.

He was the best linebacker on the team last year according to coaches.

So you tell me. Where is the coaches decision? For whats its worth, he is a starter. He gets announced with the starting linebackers and plays as many snaps. That's a starter.

[vince]

Chalk him up as yet another great free agent signing by TT!

[RashanGary]

Most of the staunch Thompson haters also happen to be staunch Sherman apologists (retailguy).

Statements such as: "If he's not going to use all of his tools - this" or "If he's only going to use the draft - that" have been made several times over by the usual suspects.

Well,

Joe Johnson vs Ryan Pickett
Hardy Nickerson (washed up) vs Brandon Chillar
nobody vs CHARLES fucking WOODSON

It seems like Thompson is using all of his tools and using all of them well. He's drafting guys. He's resigning guys (Kampman, Jennings, Rodgers, etc). He's digging up undrafted players (Tramon, Donald Lee). He's trading for players (Ryan Grant, Derrick Martin). He's signing UFA's from other teams (Woodson, Pickett, Chillar). He's doing it all and having success at all of it.

The reason, AND THE ONLY FUCKING REASON, that bottom 20% of the human population can't see what is happening is because he inherited such an atrocious mess. Anything outside the scope of their narrow blinders is just that, blinded.

This team is on track to win a championship (if not many). Sit back, enjoy the ride and have a little extra special warm feeling when all of the the big mouths are proven wrong by Ted time and time again.

[Freak Out]

Most of the staunch Thompson haters also happen to be staunch Sherman apologists (retailguy).

Statements such as: "If he's not going to use all of his tools - this" or "If he's only going to use the draft - that" have been made several times over by the usual suspects.

Well,

Joe Johnson vs Ryan Pickett
Hardy Nickerson (washed up) vs Brandon Chillar
nobody vs CHARLES fucking WOODSON

It seems like Thompson is using all of his tools and using all of them well. He's drafting guys. He's resigning guys (Kampman, Jennings, Rodgers, etc). He's digging up undrafted players (Tramon, Donald Lee). He's trading for players (Ryan Grant, Derrick Martin). He's signing UFA's from other teams (Woodson, Pickett, Chillar). He's doing it all and having success at all of it.

The reason, AND THE ONLY FUCKING REASON, that bottom 20% of the human population can't see what is happening is because he inherited such an atrocious mess. Anything outside the scope of their narrow blinders is just that, blinded.

This team is on track to win a championship (if not many). Sit back, enjoy the ride and have a little extra special warm feeling when all of the the big mouths are proven wrong by Ted time and time again.

I like your positive outlook and enthusiasm JH.

[RashanGary]

Deputy Nutz is numero uno moron on this site.

Kampman can't do this. Harris can't do that. Rodgers won't be this. The Packers are in trouble that.

Don't let this guy back on the train. When the day comes, when his shitty Vikings lose, don't let him hop on and enjoy our ride.

[retailguy]

Deputy Nutz is numero uno moron on this site.

Kampman can't do this. Harris can't do that. Rodgers won't be this. The Packers are in trouble that.

Don't let this guy back on the train. When the day comes, when his shitty Vikings lose, don't let him hop on and enjoy our ride.

In a choice between your football knowledge and Nutz' football knowledge, I'll pick Nutz every time. I wouldn't even have to know which side was which. I'd pick it blind.

[Lurker64]

Deputy Nutz is numero uno moron on this site.
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This is a hotly contested category, I wouldn't go throwing out statements like this.

[pbmax]

nobody vs CHARLES fucking WOODSON

Far be it from me to speak on behalf of Nutz or RG, but how about...

Al Harris vs Charles Woodson?

Not a FA, but similar no?

[Administrator]

Most of the staunch Thompson haters also happen to be staunch Sherman apologists (retailguy).

This kind of crap got you in trouble last time. It won't end any better this time. Stop calling people out. Make your point without making it personal.

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Most of the staunch Thompson haters also happen to be staunch Sherman apologists (retailguy).

This kind of crap got you in trouble last time. It won't end any better this time. Stop calling people out. Make your point without making it personal.

Why don't you tell this to the 10+ morons who pull this stuff every single day yet get away with it. What say you? This place used to be fun.

[th87]

Most of the staunch Thompson haters also happen to be staunch Sherman apologists (retailguy).

This kind of crap got you in trouble last time. It won't end any better this time. Stop calling people out. Make your point without making it personal.

Why don't you tell this to the 10+ morons who pull this stuff every single day yet get away with it. What say you? This place used to be fun.

Yeah! Like the DFC quoting guy.