OFFICIAL Game Day Thread: Bengals @ Packers

[KYPack]

{ilr]3]Wow, the Packers loose to one of the worst teams in the league and the Bears win against one of the best.

The Bengals aren't one of the worst teams in the league. They are on par with GB. But for a freak play, they'd be 2-0 right now.

[falco]

{ilr]3]Wow, the Packers loose to one of the worst teams in the league and the Bears win against one of the best.

The Bengals aren't one of the worst teams in the league. They are on par with GB. But for a freak play, they'd be 2-0 right now.

KY, you are spot on. I don't want to sound like a homer, because believe me we sucked today, but I think we also played two very good teams in the last two days.

Up to MM to rally the troops and sort out this clusterfuck.

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CAPS...

I didn't blame Rodgers for the game. Please show me where I did. It was a bad pass, but that pass doesn't take away the entire lack of execution by the team. Perhaps you should read the posts, instead of taking away what you want from them. Etiehr a page or two pages ago I said the Packers were awful in all four key facets of the game and outplayed. Of course, you ignore that to try to cause drama, since you live for that.

One second on the clock, sure, but is one second enough?

Oh, for fuck's sake. One second you're labeling him horrible and claiming you could have made better decisions on the field and the next you're playing your "What? Me?" routine?

WHERE DID I LABEL HIM AS HORRIBLE. PLEASE PROVIDE A SOURCE OR DON'T MAKE UP FALSE ACCUSATIONS.

Yeah, the Packers got their ass kicked in every facet of the game today. We were discussing one play. What happened to your mystery WR streaking free down the sideline anyway? If you're going to make a statement, no matter how ill informed or stupid, then make it. Don't throw dumb shit out there then run away from it pretending no one saw you shit on your own shoe.

WATCH THE REPLAY. THERE IS CLEARLY A RECEIVER STREAKING DOWN THE SIDELINE FOR A SURE FIRE TD AS THEY HAVE 2-3 STEPS ON THE DB. I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE SO I CANNOT COME AND PRESENT IT TO YOU. I'M SURE WITH ALL THE FANCY PS3S AND XBOXS AND BALLYHOO YOU CAN SCROUNGE UP THE PLAY ON THE OLD TW BOX...

One second is better than none. Is it enough? Well, we'll never fucking know because Finely and maybe Jennings too haven't learned to line the fuck up and get set in that situation, but another chance is infinitely better than none and hopefully he'll learn from it. The team has a shitload to learn from a top to bottom ass whipping like this. I hope the coaches are up to teaching this week.

THAT ISN'T ADEQUATE TIME TO GET YOUR TEAM SET. THAT IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF THIS DISCUSSION. HOW CAN YOU BLAME THEM FOR NOT GETTING SET-UP PERFECTLY WHEN THERE WAS A FRACTION OF A SECOND TO DO IT.

HAD THEY GONE TO THE OUTSIDE, THEY WOULD HAVE HAD MUCH MORE TIME. THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHAT THE DISCUSSION BOILS DOWN TO. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN FUELING ANY FIRES, ETC, BUT TO IGNORE THE FACT THAT GOING OVER THE MIDDLE WITH THAT MUCH TIME IS NOT DUMB, AND THEN BLAMING ONE PLAYER FOR STEPPING OFF A MICRO-SECOND EARLY WHEN YOU'RE LITERALLY SPRINTING DOWN THE FIELD TO GET THE PLAYOFF IS A LITTLE RIDICULOUS IMO. HAD THEY MADE THE SMART PASS, THIS WOULD ALL BE IRRELEVANT AS THEY WOULD HAVE HAD AMPLE TIME TO TAKE 2 SHOTS AT THE END ZONE IN THE TWELVISH SECONDS...

[SkinBasket]

CAPS...

I didn't blame Rodgers for the game. Please show me where I did. It was a bad pass, but that pass doesn't take away the entire lack of execution by the team. Perhaps you should read the posts, instead of taking away what you want from them. Etiehr a page or two pages ago I said the Packers were awful in all four key facets of the game and outplayed. Of course, you ignore that to try to cause drama, since you live for that.

One second on the clock, sure, but is one second enough?

Oh, for fuck's sake. One second you're labeling him horrible and claiming you could have made better decisions on the field and the next you're playing your "What? Me?" routine?

WHERE DID I LABEL HIM AS HORRIBLE. PLEASE PROVIDE A SOURCE OR DON'T MAKE UP FALSE ACCUSATIONS.

Yeah, the Packers got their ass kicked in every facet of the game today. We were discussing one play. What happened to your mystery WR streaking free down the sideline anyway? If you're going to make a statement, no matter how ill informed or stupid, then make it. Don't throw dumb shit out there then run away from it pretending no one saw you shit on your own shoe.

WATCH THE REPLAY. THERE IS CLEARLY A RECEIVER STREAKING DOWN THE SIDELINE FOR A SURE FIRE TD AS THEY HAVE 2-3 STEPS ON THE DB. I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE SO I CANNOT COME AND PRESENT IT TO YOU. I'M SURE WITH ALL THE FANCY PS3S AND XBOXS AND BALLYHOO YOU CAN SCROUNGE UP THE PLAY ON THE OLD TW BOX...

One second is better than none. Is it enough? Well, we'll never fucking know because Finely and maybe Jennings too haven't learned to line the fuck up and get set in that situation, but another chance is infinitely better than none and hopefully he'll learn from it. The team has a shitload to learn from a top to bottom ass whipping like this. I hope the coaches are up to teaching this week.

THAT ISN'T ADEQUATE TIME TO GET YOUR TEAM SET. THAT IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF THIS DISCUSSION. HOW CAN YOU BLAME THEM FOR NOT GETTING SET-UP PERFECTLY WHEN THERE WAS A FRACTION OF A SECOND TO DO IT.

HAD THEY GONE TO THE OUTSIDE, THEY WOULD HAVE HAD MUCH MORE TIME. THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHAT THE DISCUSSION BOILS DOWN TO. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN FUELING ANY FIRES, ETC, BUT TO IGNORE THE FACT THAT GOING OVER THE MIDDLE WITH THAT MUCH TIME IS NOT DUMB, AND THEN BLAMING ONE PLAYER FOR STEPPING OFF A MICRO-SECOND EARLY WHEN YOU'RE LITERALLY SPRINTING DOWN THE FIELD TO GET THE PLAYOFF IS A LITTLE RIDICULOUS IMO. HAD THEY MADE THE SMART PASS, THIS WOULD ALL BE IRRELEVANT AS THEY WOULD HAVE HAD AMPLE TIME TO TAKE 2 SHOTS AT THE END ZONE IN THE TWELVISH SECONDS...

Great use of caps.

Sigh...

What a dumb pass. Take the shot at the end zone or throw the ball away. Stupid play. Worst game as a Packer imo. He surely looked like a below average to horrible QB today.

Does that jump start your memory? Take your talk of false accusations and stick them up your ass. Again, make a point and stand by it. Stop playing retarded. As for your phantom WR, you seem to be the only one here - or on the field - who noticed that "sure fire TD." I'm sure you must be right though. You always are. I'll look tomorrow with great assuredness that you are correct.

As far as your "thoughts" about time to get set, you'll notice that our 300 pound linemen had ample opportunity to get to the LOS. Strange that a TE and a WR, both of whom would be further downfield than the linemen after the play, couldn't get set. Clearly there was time. Execution was another story - the story of the game.

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CAPS...

I didn't blame Rodgers for the game. Please show me where I did. It was a bad pass, but that pass doesn't take away the entire lack of execution by the team. Perhaps you should read the posts, instead of taking away what you want from them. Etiehr a page or two pages ago I said the Packers were awful in all four key facets of the game and outplayed. Of course, you ignore that to try to cause drama, since you live for that.

One second on the clock, sure, but is one second enough?

Oh, for fuck's sake. One second you're labeling him horrible and claiming you could have made better decisions on the field and the next you're playing your "What? Me?" routine?

WHERE DID I LABEL HIM AS HORRIBLE. PLEASE PROVIDE A SOURCE OR DON'T MAKE UP FALSE ACCUSATIONS.

Yeah, the Packers got their ass kicked in every facet of the game today. We were discussing one play. What happened to your mystery WR streaking free down the sideline anyway? If you're going to make a statement, no matter how ill informed or stupid, then make it. Don't throw dumb shit out there then run away from it pretending no one saw you shit on your own shoe.

WATCH THE REPLAY. THERE IS CLEARLY A RECEIVER STREAKING DOWN THE SIDELINE FOR A SURE FIRE TD AS THEY HAVE 2-3 STEPS ON THE DB. I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE SO I CANNOT COME AND PRESENT IT TO YOU. I'M SURE WITH ALL THE FANCY PS3S AND XBOXS AND BALLYHOO YOU CAN SCROUNGE UP THE PLAY ON THE OLD TW BOX...

One second is better than none. Is it enough? Well, we'll never fucking know because Finely and maybe Jennings too haven't learned to line the fuck up and get set in that situation, but another chance is infinitely better than none and hopefully he'll learn from it. The team has a shitload to learn from a top to bottom ass whipping like this. I hope the coaches are up to teaching this week.

THAT ISN'T ADEQUATE TIME TO GET YOUR TEAM SET. THAT IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF THIS DISCUSSION. HOW CAN YOU BLAME THEM FOR NOT GETTING SET-UP PERFECTLY WHEN THERE WAS A FRACTION OF A SECOND TO DO IT.

HAD THEY GONE TO THE OUTSIDE, THEY WOULD HAVE HAD MUCH MORE TIME. THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHAT THE DISCUSSION BOILS DOWN TO. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN FUELING ANY FIRES, ETC, BUT TO IGNORE THE FACT THAT GOING OVER THE MIDDLE WITH THAT MUCH TIME IS NOT DUMB, AND THEN BLAMING ONE PLAYER FOR STEPPING OFF A MICRO-SECOND EARLY WHEN YOU'RE LITERALLY SPRINTING DOWN THE FIELD TO GET THE PLAYOFF IS A LITTLE RIDICULOUS IMO. HAD THEY MADE THE SMART PASS, THIS WOULD ALL BE IRRELEVANT AS THEY WOULD HAVE HAD AMPLE TIME TO TAKE 2 SHOTS AT THE END ZONE IN THE TWELVISH SECONDS...

Great use of caps.

Sigh...

What a dumb pass. Take the shot at the end zone or throw the ball away. Stupid play. Worst game as a Packer imo. He surely looked like a below average to horrible QB today.

Does that jump start your memory? Take your talk of false accusations and stick them up your ass. Again, make a point and stand by it. Stop playing retarded. As for your phantom WR, you seem to be the only one here - or on the field - who noticed that "sure fire TD." I'm sure you must be right though. You always are. I'll look tomorrow with great assuredness that you are correct.

As far as your "thoughts" about time to get set, you'll notice that our 300 pound linemen had ample opportunity to get to the LOS. Strange that a TE and a WR, both of whom would be further downfield than the linemen after the play, couldn't get set. Clearly there was time. Execution was another story - the story of the game.

Saying someone is having a horrible day is quite different from calling them a horrible player. Like I said many times, he's around 10ish in the league with Cutler (which you evidently conveniently ignore to continue your little bash fest).

Has anyone watched a replay of the final play? If so, how did you not notice the streaking receiver? I do not have the capabilities to post a video, but I'm sure someone here can.

Getting to the line and getting in rhthym and ready to go are two entirely different things. After the snap, did you notice the disarray. No one knew what on earth was going on. Clearly there was not adequate time to run a play. Perhaps there may have been time to snap a ball and pray that you win the powerball. In professional sports, why would you play the powerball and take those one in a billion odds when you could take two 65/100 gambles and go down the sideline?

Anyway you slice it, it was a bad decision.

I really hope you do watch the replay. There is definitely a man open. I don't know why you are accusing me of lying or whatever you're implying. It's beyond stupid. I've watched the play 5-6 times now.

[SkinBasket]

CAPS...

I didn't blame Rodgers for the game. Please show me where I did. It was a bad pass, but that pass doesn't take away the entire lack of execution by the team. Perhaps you should read the posts, instead of taking away what you want from them. Etiehr a page or two pages ago I said the Packers were awful in all four key facets of the game and outplayed. Of course, you ignore that to try to cause drama, since you live for that.

One second on the clock, sure, but is one second enough?

Oh, for fuck's sake. One second you're labeling him horrible and claiming you could have made better decisions on the field and the next you're playing your "What? Me?" routine?

WHERE DID I LABEL HIM AS HORRIBLE. PLEASE PROVIDE A SOURCE OR DON'T MAKE UP FALSE ACCUSATIONS.

Yeah, the Packers got their ass kicked in every facet of the game today. We were discussing one play. What happened to your mystery WR streaking free down the sideline anyway? If you're going to make a statement, no matter how ill informed or stupid, then make it. Don't throw dumb shit out there then run away from it pretending no one saw you shit on your own shoe.

WATCH THE REPLAY. THERE IS CLEARLY A RECEIVER STREAKING DOWN THE SIDELINE FOR A SURE FIRE TD AS THEY HAVE 2-3 STEPS ON THE DB. I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE SO I CANNOT COME AND PRESENT IT TO YOU. I'M SURE WITH ALL THE FANCY PS3S AND XBOXS AND BALLYHOO YOU CAN SCROUNGE UP THE PLAY ON THE OLD TW BOX...

One second is better than none. Is it enough? Well, we'll never fucking know because Finely and maybe Jennings too haven't learned to line the fuck up and get set in that situation, but another chance is infinitely better than none and hopefully he'll learn from it. The team has a shitload to learn from a top to bottom ass whipping like this. I hope the coaches are up to teaching this week.

THAT ISN'T ADEQUATE TIME TO GET YOUR TEAM SET. THAT IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF THIS DISCUSSION. HOW CAN YOU BLAME THEM FOR NOT GETTING SET-UP PERFECTLY WHEN THERE WAS A FRACTION OF A SECOND TO DO IT.

HAD THEY GONE TO THE OUTSIDE, THEY WOULD HAVE HAD MUCH MORE TIME. THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHAT THE DISCUSSION BOILS DOWN TO. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN FUELING ANY FIRES, ETC, BUT TO IGNORE THE FACT THAT GOING OVER THE MIDDLE WITH THAT MUCH TIME IS NOT DUMB, AND THEN BLAMING ONE PLAYER FOR STEPPING OFF A MICRO-SECOND EARLY WHEN YOU'RE LITERALLY SPRINTING DOWN THE FIELD TO GET THE PLAYOFF IS A LITTLE RIDICULOUS IMO. HAD THEY MADE THE SMART PASS, THIS WOULD ALL BE IRRELEVANT AS THEY WOULD HAVE HAD AMPLE TIME TO TAKE 2 SHOTS AT THE END ZONE IN THE TWELVISH SECONDS...

Great use of caps.

Sigh...

What a dumb pass. Take the shot at the end zone or throw the ball away. Stupid play. Worst game as a Packer imo. He surely looked like a below average to horrible QB today.

Does that jump start your memory? Take your talk of false accusations and stick them up your ass. Again, make a point and stand by it. Stop playing retarded. As for your phantom WR, you seem to be the only one here - or on the field - who noticed that "sure fire TD." I'm sure you must be right though. You always are. I'll look tomorrow with great assuredness that you are correct.

As far as your "thoughts" about time to get set, you'll notice that our 300 pound linemen had ample opportunity to get to the LOS. Strange that a TE and a WR, both of whom would be further downfield than the linemen after the play, couldn't get set. Clearly there was time. Execution was another story - the story of the game.

Saying someone is having a horrible day is quite different from calling them a horrible player. Like I said many times, he's around 10ish in the league with Cutler (which you evidently conveniently ignore to continue your little bash fest).

Has anyone watched a replay of the final play? If so, how did you not notice the streaking receiver? I do not have the capabilities to post a video, but I'm sure someone here can.

Getting to the line and getting in rhthym and ready to go are two entirely different things. After the snap, did you notice the disarray. No one knew what on earth was going on. Clearly there was not adequate time to run a play. Perhaps there may have been time to snap a ball and pray that you win the powerball. In professional sports, why would you play the powerball and take those one in a billion odds when you could take two 65/100 gambles and go down the sideline?

Anyway you slice it, it was a bad decision.

I really hope you do watch the replay. There is definitely a man open. I don't know why you are accusing me of lying or whatever you're implying. It's beyond stupid. I've watched the play 5-6 times now.

What?! Rhythm? They're trying to win a football game, not make love to a reluctant teenager. You're being intentionally ridiculous and you make me laugh.

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Okay. So, they snap the ball with 1 second and pandemonium ensues where no one has any idea what to do. Do you honestly think they're going to score when no one surges ahead on the snap because they are afraid of the false start and are apprehensive to begin with because they aren't on the same page, don't have a play, and didn't have a planned course of attack.

What happens then? Well, my guess is Rodgers is rushed out of the pocket and throws it out of the end zone as the receivers have no idea what is going on....

The point ultimately boils down to that was not setting them up for success. Your football IQ is shining through that you would argue throwing the ball down the middle of the field 10 yards short of the end zone with but a few seconds remaining and zero timeouts is a good idea. It was a dumb play. Why can you not admit it when it obviously was?

I know you're too proud to admit it, but even I know you think this was a stupid play because no one is that unbelievably stupid. Especially when you look at the alternatives of:

A) an incomplete pass (plenty of time left)
B) a ball thrown to the sideline to the wide open receiver who gets out of bounds with 6-7 seconds left at the 5 yard line
C) touchdown by the sideline receiver tying the game

All three of those would have been better options.

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The guy streaking down the sideline was Jordy. They had a discussion about it this morning while worshipping Rodgers. Those guys are dumb sometimes.

[SkinBasket]

All three of those would have been better options.

In your fantasy world, yes, they would have been. In the real world, opposing teams play defense designed to prevent exactly those three things. Well, two anyway. I'm sure they don't mind an incompletion. You know what the sideline is beside a pretty white line? It's another defender. If you love broken up passes and interceptions, then I suppose your three glorious examples of football IQ are great options. I suppose when you see a player run off your television screen, you imagine them running free in a field full of unicorns with nary a defender in sight.

But I guess you're smarter than all the Packer coaches and Rodgers rolled together, so I digress. I am obviously outwitted here and should mind my place quietly in the shadow of your vast football knowledge.

Oh, I took a look at your mystery receiver. Jordy Nelson (yeah, the same Nelson who's dropped twice as many passes as he's caught this season) was pinched between the sideline and the defender when the ball was thrown. You saw him "running free" after the ball was almost in Driver's hands and the defender had broken off his coverage. The safety was also playing deep on that side, facing the play.

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All three of those would have been better options.

In your fantasy world, yes, they would have been. In the real world, opposing teams play defense designed to prevent exactly those three things. Well, two anyway. I'm sure they don't mind an incompletion. You know what the sideline is beside a pretty white line? It's another defender. If you love broken up passes and interceptions, then I suppose your three glorious examples of football IQ are great options. I suppose when you see a player run off your television screen, you imagine them running free in a field full of unicorns with nary a defender in sight.

But I guess you're smarter than all the Packer coaches and Rodgers rolled together, so I digress. I am obviously outwitted here and should mind my place quietly in the shadow of your vast football knowledge.

Oh, I took a look at your mystery receiver. Jordy Nelson (yeah, the same Nelson who's dropped twice as many passes as he's caught this season) was pinched between the sideline and the defender when the ball was thrown. You saw him "running free" after the ball was almost in Driver's hands and the defender had broken off his coverage. The safety was also playing deep on that side, facing the play.

Right... You sound like Ty. Just can't admit that you're wrong. Wide open. Tough pass to complete, sure, I will give you that, but he was wide open. Certainly a better option than Driver.

[SkinBasket]

All three of those would have been better options.

In your fantasy world, yes, they would have been. In the real world, opposing teams play defense designed to prevent exactly those three things. Well, two anyway. I'm sure they don't mind an incompletion. You know what the sideline is beside a pretty white line? It's another defender. If you love broken up passes and interceptions, then I suppose your three glorious examples of football IQ are great options. I suppose when you see a player run off your television screen, you imagine them running free in a field full of unicorns with nary a defender in sight.

But I guess you're smarter than all the Packer coaches and Rodgers rolled together, so I digress. I am obviously outwitted here and should mind my place quietly in the shadow of your vast football knowledge.

Oh, I took a look at your mystery receiver. Jordy Nelson (yeah, the same Nelson who's dropped twice as many passes as he's caught this season) was pinched between the sideline and the defender when the ball was thrown. You saw him "running free" after the ball was almost in Driver's hands and the defender had broken off his coverage. The safety was also playing deep on that side, facing the play.

Right... You sound like Ty. Just can't admit that you're wrong. Wide open. Tough pass to complete, sure, I will give you that, but he was wide open. Certainly a better option than Driver.

When Rodgers checks Nelson, he isn't even level with his defender yet. His next read is Driver and he pulls the trigger. At which point Nelson is still between the sideline and the defender. If you want to call that "wide open," then I can't stop you from being intentionally stupid about this.

You saw Nelson "wide open" when the camera panned to Driver catching the ball, after the defender had broken off his coverage and the safety had broken in on Driver. Watch the tape Partial. Then get a fucking clue. I'm done.

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That still doesn't change that fact that any completion over the middle to Driver is a game ender. An incompletion is better than a completion over the middle at that point.

I love how no one is chiming in. They would have to admit that I'm right and the beloved SkinBasket is clearly wrong.

[Tarlam!]

I'll chime in. I only saw the highlight reel and saw Rodgers had time to spike the ball, but didn't.

There, I chimed in.

[Scott Campbell]

That still doesn't change that fact that any completion over the middle to Driver is a game ender. An incompletion is better than a completion over the middle at that point.

I love how no one is chiming in. They would have to admit that I'm right and the beloved SkinBasket is clearly wrong.

You are both beloved. I just don't want any part of another of your sword fights.

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That still doesn't change that fact that any completion over the middle to Driver is a game ender. An incompletion is better than a completion over the middle at that point.

I love how no one is chiming in. They would have to admit that I'm right and the beloved SkinBasket is clearly wrong.

No, actually Skin is exactly right. I tried to reply earlier but it did the whole "log out" thing again and I got frustrated. Nelson was not even close to open and I don't think an incompletion would have been better at that point. There WAS enough time to get another play off, or stop the clock or whatever... it seemed like the offense was a little surprised to be in that position and no one was really sure what to do. There seemed to be all sorts of reluctance going on at that point.

Anyway, Nelson was covered... that was obvious in the first replay they showed. No need to go back on DVR ... could he have jumped up and made a play and got out of bounds over a defender? Sure, I guess... but he's shown me nothing to make me think that's a play he can make. Since, you know, we've never seen him do that or anything close to that.