We deserve it.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

LOL!! And some of you guys wonder why more people don't post here. It's just flamewar after flamewar. Shit gets old ya know?? Especially over the most mundane and retarded bullshit.

Could you point us to a packer board that isn't a raging inferno after a loss..or one that doesn't have combatants regarding Bert, TT, etc.

This is a sincere question.

packerchatters and footballsfuture

Well, i looked at PC...and there are barely any discussions about anything. The longest thread was the game day thread.

Maybe everyone was chatting.

[GrnBay007]

LOL!! And some of you guys wonder why more people don't post here. It's just flamewar after flamewar. Shit gets old ya know?? Especially over the most mundane and retarded bullshit.

Could you point us to a packer board that isn't a raging inferno after a loss..or one that doesn't have combatants regarding Bert, TT, etc.

This is a sincere question.

packerchatters and footballsfuture

Do you still come by FF?

Some think that you are 007.

Most are convinced that you are still posting there, but nobody can figure out who. If you are still around, you've definitely done a great job flying under the radar.

Waldo, how is my name being brought into this?

[Waldo]

LOL!! And some of you guys wonder why more people don't post here. It's just flamewar after flamewar. Shit gets old ya know?? Especially over the most mundane and retarded bullshit.

Could you point us to a packer board that isn't a raging inferno after a loss..or one that doesn't have combatants regarding Bert, TT, etc.

This is a sincere question.

packerchatters and footballsfuture

Do you still come by FF?

Some think that you are 007.

Most are convinced that you are still posting there, but nobody can figure out who. If you are still around, you've definitely done a great job flying under the radar.

Waldo, how is my name being brought into this?

You're 007 over there?

Whenever people chat away from FF, mafia, other things that use a chatzy, live drafts, in person, etc, there is occasionally talk of old well known members that were banned.

Most are firmly convinced that Barentt56/Bishop is back, as well as Chevelle. Most also think that 007 is not a first time poster there, that he is somebody that has been previously banned, but nobody knows who, including webby and VD obviously, as he has been warned more than anybody I've ever seen, if he was using the same IP as a previously banned poster he would get a perma ban, and his IP has obviously been checked.

[Sactopackfan]

LOL!! And some of you guys wonder why more people don't post here. It's just flamewar after flamewar. Shit gets old ya know?? Especially over the most mundane and retarded bullshit.

Could you point us to a packer board that isn't a raging inferno after a loss..or one that doesn't have combatants regarding Bert, TT, etc.

This is a sincere question.

I'm not dismissing anything that you've said Ty, it's all very true. But this place in particular, since the trading of Mr. Favre to the Jets has been...well, I just can't come up with a quality adjective at the moment. I've lurked here for quite some time, enjoying many posters insights and analysis. But many threads seem to disintegrate into a one-up manship battle, regardless of the topic. This is just an observation of one insignificant outsider. Why can't people just agree to disagree without resorting to personal insults and stupidity?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

LOL!! And some of you guys wonder why more people don't post here. It's just flamewar after flamewar. Shit gets old ya know?? Especially over the most mundane and retarded bullshit.

Could you point us to a packer board that isn't a raging inferno after a loss..or one that doesn't have combatants regarding Bert, TT, etc.

This is a sincere question.

I'm not dismissing anything that you've said Ty, it's all very true. But this place in particular, since the trading of Mr. Favre to the Jets has been...well, I just can't come up with a quality adjective at the moment. I've lurked here for quite some time, enjoying many posters insights and analysis. But many threads seem to disintegrate into a one-up manship battle, regardless of the topic. This is just an observation of one insignificant outsider. Why can't people just agree to disagree without resorting to personal insults and stupidity?

Sacto,

I don't know. I only go to this board and Jsonline...and it is just about as bad there. I checked out packerchatters...and you are right, i didn't see favre stuff....no OT: Favre thread..maybe that is one reason. Also i didn't see much of anything going on in the forums.

Top reasons according to Ty:

1. Irrational hatred of TT. For some reason, certain fans didn't like him from the beginning. As if it was his fault Sherman got canned from that role.
2. Fired Sherman. Ty thought it was the right thing to do, but hey, it's only an opinion. For some, unforgivable. Years later and they still want to talk about it.
3. Favre. TT was the man in charge when it all went down.
4. Suspect fans. Ty believes in the Green Bay Packers...others seem to have this misguided notion of loyalty to Brett over the pack.
5. Arod. Since TT picked Arod, then went with him after Brett's waffling.....they don't like Arod. They take veiled potshots at him.
6. Winning. Was it chaos last week? Nope. Cause we won. That, to me, proves the point of the above 5. The TT haters, Bert lovers, had to be quiet or risk being outed. But, the minute we lose a game...they can attack under the rubric of a loss.

This whole divided packer nation blows Ty's mind. You have "fans" that hope Bert wins a championship, "fans" wearing other teams colors, etc. We had one poster who claims to be a fan, but whose avatar was a jets hat. Sorry, but Ty doesn't role with any of that.

And, if you want to...and it is your right...Why the fuck would you be on a site called packerrats? The name says what it is about. This ain't footballrats or favrerats...or nflrats.

Ty suffered, after moving to Wisco in 71 for 20 years to taste the sweetness of victory. Ty thinks to many of the younger fans (and some johnny or johnnette come lately) have no appreciation. The don't know what it is like to suffer. They don't know what it takes to be a real fan.

You know, sacto, ty use to believe packer fans were different...maybe even better, but nowadays...i'm starting to think we are fast approaching front runner status or cubbie fans.

And, it is really starting to make Ty sick.

[MJZiggy]

LOL!! And some of you guys wonder why more people don't post here. It's just flamewar after flamewar. Shit gets old ya know?? Especially over the most mundane and retarded bullshit.

Could you point us to a packer board that isn't a raging inferno after a loss..or one that doesn't have combatants regarding Bert, TT, etc.

This is a sincere question.

I'm not dismissing anything that you've said Ty, it's all very true. But this place in particular, since the trading of Mr. Favre to the Jets has been...well, I just can't come up with a quality adjective at the moment. I've lurked here for quite some time, enjoying many posters insights and analysis. But many threads seem to disintegrate into a one-up manship battle, regardless of the topic. This is just an observation of one insignificant outsider. Why can't people just agree to disagree without resorting to personal insults and stupidity?

Adjectives, hostile, touchy, sucky?
This place has some of the best football knowledge anywhere. A lot of the folks here make me laugh regularly. Some of the people I've met at the posters games have been wonderful people that I've maintained relationships with away from this board. There are others here I'd just love to meet in person. But there are some here who just have to be right. They must post and battle and flame until they prove that they are top dog around here. They fight their battles until they get censured or banned and then can't figure out why it happened then beg to be reinstated only to start the same crap over again. I can't figure that out...to have been deactivated and then act like you're being picked on for being called on the very same behavior that got you deactivated before. Maybe it's their history that's being picked on. That's a really, REALLY long way of saying QFT.

[Fritz]

Hear hear to Zig.

[GrnBay007]

You're 007 over there?

No, this is the only site I visit

[MOBB DEEP]

A woman calling you cats out on your machismo....

Man, over at sportsbubbler.com its been whacky since the loss

They have a pick of Chad's lambeau leap complete with pack fans smilling and patting chad on his back..INSANE! Armegeddon's in effect


Or, I guess some ppl just enjoy the ENTIRE sport of pro fballl, not just cats that the Packers draft or pick up? hmmmm....

Some smart person here should post that pic, its hilarious if not sickening at the same time

[Scott Campbell]

You're 007 over there?

No, this is the only site I visit

Is it because you've been banned everywhere else?

[MOBB DEEP]

You're 007 over there?

No, this is the only site I visit

Go visit JSO double 0...its SO different now....

I had to visit it after Ty brought it up; havnt been there in 2 years

[MOBB DEEP]

cpk is over at JSO on the "most pathetic fans thread"...he he...ppl are defending the fans for smiling and patting Chad

[Bossman641]

This whole divided packer nation blows Ty's mind. You have "fans" that hope Bert wins a championship, "fans" wearing other teams colors, etc. We had one poster who claims to be a fan, but whose avatar was a jets hat. Sorry, but Ty doesn't role with any of that.

And, if you want to...and it is your right...Why the fuck would you be on a site called packerrats? The name says what it is about. This ain't footballrats or favrerats...or nflrats.

Agreed

There seem to be more than a few here who take more joy in the Packers losing then winning. I don't think I need to name names regarding those who only show up when the Pack are down.

It should be quite clear that there are a lot of Packer "fans" who thought they were Packer fans when they were actually only Favre fans. There's nothing wrong with that. I just don't understand why they continue to think of themselves as Packer fans though.

And before they start in with the "so you think you're a better fan than me" crap, if you want other teams to win instead of the Packers or hope the Packers struggle because they "deserve" it, then YES I am a better fan than you.

[Scott Campbell]

The OP (Mazzin) is not among those you cite IMO. She doesn't appear to be taking any joy in this loss.

[Bossman641]

The OP (Mazzin) is not among those you cite IMO. She doesn't appear to be taking any joy in this loss.

Definitely

She was not one of the ones I was referring to.