Sharper Shake

[MOBB DEEP]

thanks

failing health?

[Bretsky]

He's really not that good.

always been very solid

[Lurker64]

thanks

failing health?

Yeah, I think he's got bad hips, bad knees, dementia, and he only gets like a grand a month from the NFL pension plan. He's one of those guys who has gotten royally screwed over by the NFLPA not supporting the old time vets.

[packerbacker1234]

thanks

failing health?

Yeah, I think he's got bad hips, bad knees, dementia, and he only gets like a grand a month from the NFL pension plan. He's one of those guys who has gotten royally screwed over by the NFLPA not supporting the old time vets.

Yeah, the old time vets do really need some better support. Unlike the players of today who make millions and can put stuff away for later in life, back then it wasn't the case, and the NFL should be doing what it can to support the folks that made this game what it is today.

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Mooch and the guys were talkn today about how NUTS minny was for lettn DS go

Their secondary is biggest weakness

Ive seen all of their games and they have ONLY winfield who makes plays

[Zool]

He's really not that good.

always been very solid

He's always been a bit of a cherry picker but a good deep cover man.

If he wasn't due $6mil he wouldnt have been cut.

[BallHawk]

He's really not that good.

always been very solid

Solid isn't one of the words that immediately comes to mind when I think of Sharper. Sharper gets pub for one reason and one reason only: he makes interceptions. And he's damn good at that. But a large part of that success comes at the cost of giving up big passes. I have many memories of Darren chilling in the middle of the field trying to jump a pass for an INT, only to get burned deep for 6. Of course, the media doesn't pick up on that. It's too boring.

I'd take Nick Collins over Darren Sharper anyday of the week.

[Bretsky]

He's really not that good.

always been very solid

Solid isn't one of the words that immediately comes to mind when I think of Sharper. Sharper gets pub for one reason and one reason only: he makes interceptions. And he's damn good at that. But a large part of that success comes at the cost of giving up big passes. I have many memories of Darren chilling in the middle of the field trying to jump a pass for an INT, only to get burned deep for 6. Of course, the media doesn't pick up on that. It's too boring.

I'd take Nick Collins over Darren Sharper anyday of the week.

I would proably take Collins too but it's close. I can't remember the last time when I thought we had two really good safeties back there.

[MOBB DEEP]

He's really not that good.

always been very solid

Solid isn't one of the words that immediately comes to mind when I think of Sharper. Sharper gets pub for one reason and one reason only: he makes interceptions. And he's damn good at that. But a large part of that success comes at the cost of giving up big passes. I have many memories of Darren chilling in the middle of the field trying to jump a pass for an INT, only to get burned deep for 6. Of course, the media doesn't pick up on that. It's too boring.

I'd take Nick Collins over Darren Sharper anyday of the week.

I would proably take Collins too but it's close. I can't remember the last time when I thought we had two really good safeties back there.

werent eugene and butler together 1 year?

[Bretsky]

He's really not that good.

always been very solid

Solid isn't one of the words that immediately comes to mind when I think of Sharper. Sharper gets pub for one reason and one reason only: he makes interceptions. And he's damn good at that. But a large part of that success comes at the cost of giving up big passes. I have many memories of Darren chilling in the middle of the field trying to jump a pass for an INT, only to get burned deep for 6. Of course, the media doesn't pick up on that. It's too boring.

I'd take Nick Collins over Darren Sharper anyday of the week.

I would proably take Collins too but it's close. I can't remember the last time when I thought we had two really good safeties back there.

werent eugene and butler together 1 year?

yup; that was the last time I can remember being happy with both; maybe I'm forgetting a combo. that was around thirteen years ago..and Eugene was nearing the end

[esoxx]

Butler and Robinson played the '96 & '97 seasons together and then Sharper took E.R's spot in '98.
Sharper has had his moments, what safety hasn't? One thing I will say is Sharper was never on a team that gave up 45 offensive points in a playoff game. Where was Collins then? He was like the invisible man out there.

[MOBB DEEP]

He's really not that good.

always been very solid

Solid isn't one of the words that immediately comes to mind when I think of Sharper. Sharper gets pub for one reason and one reason only: he makes interceptions. And he's damn good at that. But a large part of that success comes at the cost of giving up big passes. I have many memories of Darren chilling in the middle of the field trying to jump a pass for an INT, only to get burned deep for 6. Of course, the media doesn't pick up on that. It's too boring.

I'd take Nick Collins over Darren Sharper anyday of the week.

I would proably take Collins too but it's close. I can't remember the last time when I thought we had two really good safeties back there.

werent eugene and butler together 1 year?

yup; that was the last time I can remember being happy with both; maybe I'm forgetting a combo. that was around thirteen years ago..and Eugene was nearing the end

and then wasnt erob one of the main guys that took broncs lightly and went partying before SB?

[pbmax]

Just a quick note that future Hall of Fame candidate Darren Sharper took another step in a long line of questionable angles by failing to catch up to Tim Hightower on the Cardinals player's long touchdown run.

Maybe he will qualify first for the Interception Hall of Fame.

[Joemailman]

Butler and Robinson played the '96 & '97 seasons together and then Sharper took E.R's spot in '98.
Sharper has had his moments, what safety hasn't? One thing I will say is Sharper was never on a team that gave up 45 offensive points in a playoff game. Where was Collins then? He was like the invisible man out there.

The Cardinals were attacking the middle of the Packers defense. Didn't seem Collins was in position to help out there much. I think the problem may have been more the defensive scheme than Collins' play.

[pbmax]

Butler and Robinson played the '96 & '97 seasons together and then Sharper took E.R's spot in '98.
Sharper has had his moments, what safety hasn't? One thing I will say is Sharper was never on a team that gave up 45 offensive points in a playoff game. Where was Collins then? He was like the invisible man out there.

The Cardinals were attacking the middle of the Packers defense. Didn't seem Collins was in position to help out there much. I think the problem may have been more the defensive scheme than Collins' play.

The Chargers were attacking with crosses and seam routes by Breaston. The crosses are too shallow for Collins or Bigby in Cover 2, but both need to play well to cover the seam Breaston was running. I did not see them make a play there until after the ball arrived. But in the Cover 2, to protect the deep middle (like the seam for the slot WR or TE) you need help from your LB and they were behind all day.