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  • #31
    Originally posted by Fritz
    There's a big difference between having talent and being good.

    Jamon Meredith has talent. He has the build and the skills to develop into a left tackle in the NFL.

    But right now he's no good at all. You can look at seventh grade kids playing basketball and see some who are clearly going to be spectacular players. But that doesn't mean they can step onto a court with college kids. That's kind of how it is with Meredith and players like him.

    So the Packers tried to squeeze him through on the practice squad, hoping he would develop this year and perhaps be able to contribute next year as a backup, and go from there. But it didn't work. The Bills feel that they can hide him on the active roster - my guess is he'll be inactive quite a bit.

    I wish the Packers hadn't lost him, but he wasn't able to help this year.
    Agreed. Nice athlete position but raw in technique. It sure would have been nice to keep and attempt to develop.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Patler
      Originally posted by Waldo
      The RB doesn't have to follow the FB. The FB accounts for a man. When you account for all box defenders, and win each battle, you can run. As long as the FB takes out a man not accounted for by someone else, he has schematically sound use, whether or not the RB follows him.
      Maybe, but you don't necessarily have to account for every defender initially, just those immediately in the path of the ball carrier, and the FB picks up the first one he encounters along that path. Often that is the first one with a good chance of stopping the play, so the fullback goes a long way of minimizing negative yardage on a poorly executed play, and turning little gains into bigger ones.

      The Packer's coaches have said time and time again that they want the FB and RB to read the play the same, and the RB to follow the FB through the initial hole. McCarthy described the ideal fullback in his system one time as one who reads the lanes as well as the RB so that the RB doesn't have to and can just follow the fullback to the second level, from where his own running ability will take over.
      The packers rarely hand off or throw to the fb unlike Henderson or Rathman. FB personnel shall not indicate any thing.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Zool
        Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the stretch really rely more on a cutback lane actually opening up than it does a bruising lead blocker taking the first guy in the designed hole? Seems to me we've been running a ton of stretch again. If the FB can spot the cutback and hit that hole then yes he'd be a big help.
        Stretch plays are for one back schemes. The fb is for the I formation or in power plays.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by rbaloha
          Originally posted by falco
          Originally posted by Scott Campbell
          I guess its a good sign that other teams think our practice squad guys are worthy of their roster spots.
          In all honesty, I think TT has put together a very good team. It's the coach I'm starting to be concerned about.
          Agreed. The talent is available to make the schemes work. Its unacceptable that the offense is unfocused and lacks discipline.
          anyone besides me notice all the problems the packers have started right after MM married the gold digger and became daddy. Ty mocked me at the time, but i maintain guys with families make poor NFL coaches.
          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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          • #35
            Originally posted by bobblehead
            Originally posted by rbaloha
            Originally posted by falco
            Originally posted by Scott Campbell
            I guess its a good sign that other teams think our practice squad guys are worthy of their roster spots.
            In all honesty, I think TT has put together a very good team. It's the coach I'm starting to be concerned about.
            Agreed. The talent is available to make the schemes work. Its unacceptable that the offense is unfocused and lacks discipline.
            Good point. Imagine dealing with that bitch everyday.

            anyone besides me notice all the problems the packers have started right after MM married the gold digger and became daddy. Ty mocked me at the time, but i maintain guys with families make poor NFL coaches.

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            • #36
              Doesn't Bill Belichek have a family but is prone to fooling around? i don't remember exactly, but I think he did have an affair with a married woman.

              Maybe this is the answer to the Packers' problems. Either MM gets a divorce again, or he pulls a Belichek and takes on a mistress.

              They've got to right this ship.
              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

              KYPack

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Fritz
                Doesn't Bill Belichek have a family but is prone to fooling around? i don't remember exactly, but I think he did have an affair with a married woman.

                Maybe this is the answer to the Packers' problems. Either MM gets a divorce again, or he pulls a Belichek and takes on a mistress.

                They've got to right this ship.
                A hot young mistress can do wonders. Just do not consult Clinton.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by bobblehead
                  Originally posted by rbaloha
                  Originally posted by falco
                  Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                  I guess its a good sign that other teams think our practice squad guys are worthy of their roster spots.
                  In all honesty, I think TT has put together a very good team. It's the coach I'm starting to be concerned about.
                  Agreed. The talent is available to make the schemes work. Its unacceptable that the offense is unfocused and lacks discipline.
                  anyone besides me notice all the problems the packers have started right after MM married the gold digger and became daddy. Ty mocked me at the time, but i maintain guys with families make poor NFL coaches.
                  Mike Tomlin - married
                  Bill Belichek - married
                  Tony Dungy - married
                  Mike Holmgren - married
                  Bill Parcells - married (until 2002)
                  Bill cowher - married
                  Mike Shanahan - maried
                  Jeff fisher - married (divorce proceedings 2008)

                  Do i have to continue to embarrass you?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns

                    Mike Tomlin - married
                    Bill Belichek - married
                    Tony Dungy - married
                    Mike Holmgren - married
                    Bill Parcells - married (until 2002)
                    Bill cowher - married
                    Mike Shanahan - maried
                    Jeff fisher - married (divorce proceedings 2008)

                    Do i have to continue to embarrass you?
                    Parcells was previously divorced, the one during the Cowboy stint was #2 I believe.
                    Belicheck's issues have been mentioned and he is divorced.
                    Dungy lost a son.
                    Reid has two sons in the clink.

                    You can't just list marital status and imply all is well.
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                      Originally posted by bobblehead
                      Originally posted by rbaloha
                      Originally posted by falco
                      Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                      I guess its a good sign that other teams think our practice squad guys are worthy of their roster spots.
                      In all honesty, I think TT has put together a very good team. It's the coach I'm starting to be concerned about.
                      Agreed. The talent is available to make the schemes work. Its unacceptable that the offense is unfocused and lacks discipline.
                      anyone besides me notice all the problems the packers have started right after MM married the gold digger and became daddy. Ty mocked me at the time, but i maintain guys with families make poor NFL coaches.
                      Mike Tomlin - married
                      Bill Belichek - married
                      Tony Dungy - married
                      Mike Holmgren - married
                      Bill Parcells - married (until 2002)
                      Bill cowher - married
                      Mike Shanahan - maried
                      Jeff fisher - married (divorce proceedings 2008)

                      Do i have to continue to embarrass you?
                      Well, alrighty then: he needs a mistress.

                      Clearly we're putting our concerns - offensive linemen and safeties in the wrong basket.

                      Somebody hook up the coach already.

                      Snake? Snake?
                      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                      KYPack

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by pbmax
                        Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns

                        Mike Tomlin - married
                        Bill Belichek - married
                        Tony Dungy - married
                        Mike Holmgren - married
                        Bill Parcells - married (until 2002)
                        Bill cowher - married
                        Mike Shanahan - maried
                        Jeff fisher - married (divorce proceedings 2008)

                        Do i have to continue to embarrass you?
                        Parcells was previously divorced, the one during the Cowboy stint was #2 I believe.
                        Belicheck's issues have been mentioned and he is divorced.
                        Dungy lost a son.
                        Reid has two sons in the clink.

                        You can't just list marital status and imply all is well.
                        Of course you can't....just as you can't link MM's marriage and packer success.

                        Parcells: Nope. Married for 39 years to Judy. And, even if he was...he was married during his SB winning years.
                        Belichick: Separated in 04. Hasn't won a SB since. Marriage is the key. LOL
                        Dungy: What does losing a son have to do with anything? Bobble's assertion is married coaches do worse. Dungy was married and succesful.
                        Reid: Again, what his son's do isn't relevant. Is he married? Yes. Is he successful. Yes.

                        Joe Gibbs. married
                        Tom Landry.
                        Lombardi. married

                        The simple fact is that married coaches don't fare worse...and in fact are the most successful. Course, they just reflect most of society.

                        You would be hard pressed to find 5 coaches in the NFL who were successful that werent' married.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by sharpe1027
                          Having the Bills pick him up doesn't say much too me. Afterall, we cut a guy that started a bunch of games for them last year. Their O-line is nothing special.

                          Honestly, most teams would struggle after losing their LT. It is one of the most important positions. The ship defintely took on some water, but that doesn't mean it can't be patched. A week of practice did wonders for Barbre. So, I would expect some good improvements over what we saw last weekend.

                          I predicted 2-2 going into the bye week, with a 10-6 finish; our schedule is pretty favorable coming out of the bye week. If we can beat the Rams, we'll be right on track even if we were to lose to the Queens.


                          Hard to knock the Bills OL too much when you compare up the numbers of Fred Jackson to Ryan Grant this year
                          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Fritz
                            Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                            Originally posted by bobblehead
                            Originally posted by rbaloha
                            Originally posted by falco
                            Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                            I guess its a good sign that other teams think our practice squad guys are worthy of their roster spots.
                            In all honesty, I think TT has put together a very good team. It's the coach I'm starting to be concerned about.
                            Agreed. The talent is available to make the schemes work. Its unacceptable that the offense is unfocused and lacks discipline.
                            anyone besides me notice all the problems the packers have started right after MM married the gold digger and became daddy. Ty mocked me at the time, but i maintain guys with families make poor NFL coaches.
                            Mike Tomlin - married
                            Bill Belichek - married
                            Tony Dungy - married
                            Mike Holmgren - married
                            Bill Parcells - married (until 2002)
                            Bill cowher - married
                            Mike Shanahan - maried
                            Jeff fisher - married (divorce proceedings 2008)

                            Do i have to continue to embarrass you?
                            Well, alrighty then: he needs a mistress.

                            Clearly we're putting our concerns - offensive linemen and safeties in the wrong basket.

                            Somebody hook up the coach already.

                            Snake? Snake?
                            MM..."look, i love you but, since we got married, our record is shit. Look baby, i don't wanna cheat, but i have to...to save the packers."

                            Mrs. MM..."how about you just put bert back at qb, moron....or get that line fixed...or, stop running out Bigby..i told you he sucked. Now, get in the kitchen and make dinner, bitch."

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Bretsky
                              Hard to knock the Bills OL too much when you compare up the numbers of Fred Jackson to Ryan Grant this year
                              I never said the Packer's Oline was any good. :P

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                                The simple fact is that married coaches don't fare worse...and in fact are the most successful. Course, they just reflect most of society.
                                Are you suggesting that single, divorced middle age men are more likely to be losers?
                                After lunch the players lounged about the hotel patio watching the surf fling white plumes high against the darkening sky. Clouds were piling up in the west… Vince Lombardi frowned.

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