Rouse released

[SkinBasket]

Hopefully Bigby and Collins get healthy. We need those guys healthy back there.

Hopefully Collins gets healthy and Bigby dies of his injuries so we can use his roster spot for someone who can play football.

[Waldo]

Rouse looked too tentative at safety. Maybe should bulk-up and play as a dime lb.

The concept of a dime linebacker is that he has to be able to cover, and be good enough to sniff out a draw or QB sneak and chase it down.

Maybe we should play Chillar at SS? Tampa has a linebacker that jumped back to play SS.

[pbmax]

Collins needs to get back ASAP, why the fk didn't they keep Smith?

Normally I would get on here and yell at you for not telling me who you would cut to keep him.

But since they just released one safety to sign another, its a great question. Why was Rouse on the roster ahead of Smith?

The only explanation would be that with all the injuries, they cannot afford a Safety who can only play near the LOS. They have to be able to do both. Or perhaps Collins is going to be gone longer than first anticipated and Special Teams considerations are out the door.

In answer to KYPack, I agree Rouse offerred something beyond what Waldo gives him credit for. He could play the run and hit somebody. But he was very awkward in the open field. Not exactly the guy you want as the last line of defense (run or pass) to make an open field tackle.

[pbmax]

So we have zero healthy bodies that played safety during camp... Scary!

Bush played S all camp.

I'm pretty sure that Underwood took S snaps as well, splitting between CB and S.

Underwood was always pretty good against the run.

Except that after every hard, awkward hit, he came out for a play or two. I wonder if he has gained any weight from 185 during the last three weeks?

[pbmax]

Collins needs to get back ASAP, why the fk didn't they keep Smith?

Because they acquired Derrick Martin at the end of camp. People keep forgetting him. Smith out, Martin in; just like Rouse out, Giordano in.

That doesn't cover the order of the moves. If the Martin/Smith move was straightforward a better player, then why was Rouse kept ahead of Smith?

The new guy has been available (on waivers or from PS) since roster cutdown. Something changed in the calculus of Rouse.

[Waldo]

Rouse was injured most of preseason and really didn't have a good chance to prove himself to Dom on the field.

Once he was finally healthy and had his chance to show what he could do....

They cut him.

[mraynrand]

I don't have the video of the game with me, but I'm pretty sure Rouse was involved in one of the special team fuck ups as well as the 3rd and 34 fuck up. Defensive coordinators have been fired for giving up 26 yards on a critical down, so why not a backup safety on 34? Giordano not only helps teams and safety, but he can bring in the best stuffed pizza there is.

[FritzDontBlitz]

I am not understanding the logic of claiming you're short handed at a position, then signing one player at the position while releasing another. Giordano better be damn good, because there's no backup plan if he falters...

[pbmax]

I don't have the video of the game with me, but I'm pretty sure Rouse was involved in one of the special team fuck ups as well as the 3rd and 34 fuck up. Defensive coordinators have been fired for giving up 26 yards on a critical down, so why not a backup safety on 34? Giordano not only helps teams and safety, but he can bring in the best stuffed pizza there is.

Yes, and in Packer history that kind of swift decision making on coordinators (Donatell) brought us Bob Slowik, who was dumb enough to give Sherman the defense he was asking for.

Hopefully, this works out better.

[FritzDontBlitz]

I don't have the video of the game with me, but I'm pretty sure Rouse was involved in one of the special team fuck ups as well as the 3rd and 34 fuck up. Defensive coordinators have been fired for giving up 26 yards on a critical down, so why not a backup safety on 34? Giordano not only helps teams and safety, but he can bring in the best stuffed pizza there is.

Yes, and in Packer history that kind of swift decision making on coordinators (Donatell) brought us Bob Slowik, who was dumb enough to give Sherman the defense he was asking for.

Hopefully, this works out better.

Ouch.

[Waldo]

I don't have the video of the game with me, but I'm pretty sure Rouse was involved in one of the special team fuck ups as well as the 3rd and 34 fuck up. Defensive coordinators have been fired for giving up 26 yards on a critical down, so why not a backup safety on 34? Giordano not only helps teams and safety, but he can bring in the best stuffed pizza there is.

He was also the one that gave up Coles TD, and was supposed to be the deep safety on the fleaflicker.

I get a sense from a lot of people that dug in to the tape of the game (I don't have a copy of this one), that Rouse had a worse game than Carroll had against Philly, that a good % of Cincy's offense was generated by targeting Rouse in a variety of ways.

They way they targeted our LB's in their run fits with offensive lineman (which they did exceptionally well, including using the U-71 for extra oomph), tackling the runner becomes the responsibility of the SS. He is the extra hat.

[mraynrand]

I don't have the video of the game with me, but I'm pretty sure Rouse was involved in one of the special team fuck ups as well as the 3rd and 34 fuck up. Defensive coordinators have been fired for giving up 26 yards on a critical down, so why not a backup safety on 34? Giordano not only helps teams and safety, but he can bring in the best stuffed pizza there is.

Yes, and in Packer history that kind of swift decision making on coordinators (Donatell) brought us Bob Slowik, who was dumb enough to give Sherman the defense he was asking for.

Hopefully, this works out better.

I share your hope. Right now, the Packers would be a lot better off with a Mike Prior type who is assignment sure and knows how to tackle - in the defensive backfield and on special teams.

[Fritz]

There may also be - may - reasons we're not privy to that don't include talent or disciplkine or work ethic. What we might call "off the field" issues.

For example, maybe he brought crappy pizza to team meetings, while Giordano clearly has access to better 'za.

[Waldo]

Like I said, bring up Donatell for Slowick, however Carroll for Dendy is much more appropriate. This administration, same general area of the team (secondary), a player not a coach, and similar means of fixing the hole.

I think that most people agree that the team improved by cutting Carroll.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Hopefully Bigby and Collins get healthy. We need those guys healthy back there.

Hopefully Collins gets healthy and Bigby dies of his injuries so we can use his roster spot for someone who can play football.

OK, I lol'd here at work on that one.