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  • #31
    Originally posted by MOBB DEEP
    Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
    Originally posted by Scott Campbell
    Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
    I'd rather he held the ball than throw ints.

    Man, some fans have no memory. It is a learning process..for Arod, just as it was for Bert.

    I'd like to see the guy throw it away on occasion. Those sacks are nearly as bad as turnovers.
    Learning process.

    Sacks aren't even close to being as bad as a turnover.
    And YOUR favorite cat favre HAS learned; NO ints and PLENTY sacks this year...he gets better w/age
    We'll see when he faces some real teams.

    leopards don't change their spots.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
      Originally posted by MOBB DEEP
      Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
      Originally posted by Scott Campbell
      Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
      I'd rather he held the ball than throw ints.

      Man, some fans have no memory. It is a learning process..for Arod, just as it was for Bert.

      I'd like to see the guy throw it away on occasion. Those sacks are nearly as bad as turnovers.
      Learning process.

      Sacks aren't even close to being as bad as a turnover.
      And YOUR favorite cat favre HAS learned; NO ints and PLENTY sacks this year...he gets better w/age
      We'll see when he faces some real teams.

      leopards don't change their spots.
      Steelers and Ravens come to mind

      B/W u and me, im tryna get to that Favre at Pit game....
      They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

      Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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      • #33
        Noodle brings up some good points about why Rodgers may not have
        been able to throw the ball away without being called for intentional grounding.
        The rules now allow a qb to get rid of the ball if outside the tackles and the ball travels to the line of scrimmage. It wasn't like that in Starr's day.
        There had to be a receiver in the vicinity to "get away' with it.

        We can blame the play calling or the execution of the plays for the problem but it does need to be fixed and fast.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by TravisWilliams23
          Well, Jerry being the good teammate, defended Bart for not taking a chance and turning the ball over with an interception. But he then said in the interview, "all the lineman thought Bart held the ball too damned long!"
          I think he may have been joking. That is a complaint EVERY offensive lineman has made about their quarterback. How long do you think they want to pass block for?
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by TravisWilliams23
            Noodle brings up some good points about why Rodgers may not have
            been able to throw the ball away without being called for intentional grounding.
            The rules now allow a qb to get rid of the ball if outside the tackles and the ball travels to the line of scrimmage. It wasn't like that in Starr's day.
            There had to be a receiver in the vicinity to "get away' with it.

            We can blame the play calling or the execution of the plays for the problem but it does need to be fixed and fast.

            A clever QB can get it close enough to a receiver without putting it up for grabs. Or just overthrow somebody on a sideline route.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Rastak
              Majority of time, yes. Blanket statement, no.



              Sometimes a pick is as good as a punt.......depends. Think about it.
              Only on third down. And only if the net gain is near forty. What percentage of INTs occur on third down and with that field position difference?

              Most long INTs get returned because there are usually 1 or 2 offensive players that deep on the field, and usually only one close by.
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                I'd rather he held the ball than throw ints.

                Man, some fans have no memory. It is a learning process..for Arod, just as it was for Bert.

                I'd like to see the guy throw it away on occasion. Those sacks are nearly as bad as turnovers.
                Learning process.

                Sacks aren't even close to being as bad as a turnover.

                Except that some sacks are turnovers plus a loss of 2 points.


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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Scott Campbell

                  A clever QB can get it close enough to a receiver without putting it up for grabs. Or just overthrow somebody on a sideline route.
                  You may be right, but I just don't think you can say this without knowing what's going on down field. According to the story, the Pack has been keeping 7-8 in pass pro, meaning only 3 guys at most are running routes.

                  There are lots of 3-man route packages that don't have any receiver near a sideline. And if the D is playing with safties on top, just heaving down the field can get you picked clean.

                  It'd be interesting to hear from someone who has seen tape whether Rodgers is F-ing up or if he was just F-ed.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                    Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                    Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                    Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                    I'd rather he held the ball than throw ints.

                    Man, some fans have no memory. It is a learning process..for Arod, just as it was for Bert.

                    I'd like to see the guy throw it away on occasion. Those sacks are nearly as bad as turnovers.
                    Learning process.

                    Sacks aren't even close to being as bad as a turnover.

                    Except that some sacks are turnovers plus a loss of 2 points.


                    http://video.google.com/videosearch?...en&emb=0&aq=f#
                    Of course. But, you said sack.

                    Some sacks result in fumbles that are picked up by the offensive team and ground is gained or a td is scored.

                    A sack is a sack. A sack and a fumble is just that.

                    But, since your example is for 2 points...it is half the 4 points ints average...which isn't close. We all know that most sacks don't result in 2 points and a net loss of 40 yards. We have to look at the big picture, not the individual plays.

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