Updated: Colledge OK at LT. Only Gave up 2 sacks in Bye Week

[imscott72]

Thank God we play the Rams; this week will be like plaing a JV team in the NFL. We'll be fine

Man B, why you gotta say stuff like that?

[rbaloha1]

[quote="Freak Out"]Little is licking his chops.[/quote

It is scary. Look for more draws, screens and dump offs.

[Gunakor]

Little is licking his chops.

Little vs Barbre could be interesting.

[SkinBasket]

Little is licking his chops.

It is scary. Look for more draws, screens and dump offs.

Which will go for -1, 4, and 3 yards respectfully. Better start chilling the ice packs for the punter's leg now.

[bobblehead]

He hadn't taken any reps at LT heading into that game. At least wait and see how he performs after actually having taken reps at the position during practice in the lead up to this weekends game. Besides, while Odom is no legend, he is a pretty good pass rusher. He got 2 sacks in week 1 against a LT that didn't give up a single one a season ago. And, to be fair, Odom only got three sacks on Colledge, the other two were on Cliffy. No telling whether he'd have wound up with 3 or 4 or 5 even if Cliffy hadn't gotten injured. He's no NFL legend, but he's scary good nonetheless.

I dunno, Gun, I give Colledge no leeway on this, cuz he knows he's a LT if need be. Maybe, I say fuck it, cuz look at the game (tape) and he got SO raped it's sad. He really looked poor ass poor on so many snaps. Colledge is pathetic at LT. Really, really sad. I'm only looking at the game from last week. He really looked whooped OVER and FUCKING OVER.

The whole point was Cliffy (who I thought/we all did thought was done) and Colledge was gonna step up.....NOPE. F5 Hurricane. DISASTER. Embarrasing shit. Colledge is no answer at ALL. Thus the point of this topic.

Let's resign him for $7-9 million yearly when we have a chance no? Waldo? No?? God thank god no...

As a former Cliffy fan I would like to say he was bitch slapped in the first half by the same guy...and cliffy had all preseason to practice at LT (and more than 3 running plays to keep the cat honest). I can't say if he was any good week one vs. the Bears because Babre's guy was hammering ARod before cliffys guy...not exactly an endorsement.

Cliffy is slipping badly. I wanted TT to draft an LT this year at our first pick, but we got fat boy instead. I like college, he has developed into a really good guard. He played great RT albeit against the Lions last year. I think with a week of practice and more than 3 running plays in his half of playing LT he will be adequate...not great, but not the weak point of the line either.

[Fritz]

Next year, Bobblehead. Next year.

[Waldo]

Colledge is the kinda guy that can play LT, but agaisnt some player types, the long armed leverage guys (like Odom), he needs flawless technique to keep from getting beat.

He's unusually athletic though and smart, kinda like Jordan Gross an Matt Light, both are a little small, but smart and athletic.

I wouldn't expect him to step right in and excel. He's not a Clady. Leave him at LT for a year though and he'll be a solid player. Probably never be more than a 4-8 sack/yr guy, he's just not the kinda guy that can have those 0-1 sack seasons.

He brings run blocking ability to the table, something that many of the elite pass pro guys (like Clifton) just aren't great at.

You can win with DC at LT, given time to master the position he would surely not be a liability, but I doubt that he ever goes to Hawaii as a LT.

[Fritz]

It's an area of need. I would have liked for Meredith to be able to stay with the Pack this year.

But, as (I think) PB or Vince pointed out, there will be Jamon Meredith next year, too.

It's just that they need someone to develop a little faster than three years.

[Waldo]

DC is not the kinda guy at LT that will prevent you from spending big draft capital on an elite prospect.

But I'm not sure that you'd go after the Ugoh-Staley caliber prospects with Colledge at LT.

[Waldo]

Re: Packers Without Clifton for Next 2 Games. Are We Done?

Colledge is an OK guard, and that is it. I really like you Waldo (well sometimes...where's J. Thompson....and where's my man Bishop..but whatever..I'll let that go), but saying Colledge needs a new big contract...he's this and that...I shut up and let you say it. I'll kill myself if the Pack resigns Colledge to big deal.

Do you know what the going rate is for a solid LG that can fill in as a swing tackle, 2nd contract?

Right now about 5M/yr

DC has a lot of money on the line this week. Even with the bad week last week, in his career he's shown enough at LT and RT that the market will view him as a solid LG/swing T. These next two games are probably the biggest 2 games of his career. He shows starting LT ability in the next 2 weeks, and he's bumped up to a low end LT money, about 7M/yr.

He has no contract next year. You don't want him to have a new deal, he walks. His current market value is surely no less than 5M/yr. Our line is in deep shit if Colledge gets away.

[Fritz]

I was wondering about this same thing, Wal.

How does this shift to left tackle affect his contract status?

Better sign him up, right away. He plays well at LT, the price goes up and up.

And I do want him to play well.

So extend that mofo!

[Harlan Huckleby]

It's just that they need someone to develop a little faster than three years.

The NFL needs to consider some sort of system whereby teams are allowed to bid for the services of veteran players whose contracts have expired. A "free agency" to coin a phrase.

[bobblehead]

Next year, Bobblehead. Next year.

But this year was the year that had 4 LT's that could be top 5 picks in most drafts. Even if we reached we would have gotten a good one. All 4 were equal or better prospects to the dude the Jets got at 4 when we got hawk. LT's don't come from nowhere in round 4, most of them are high first round picks...especially the great ones.

[Waldo]

Next year, Bobblehead. Next year.

But this year was the year that had 4 LT's that could be top 5 picks in most drafts. Even if we reached we would have gotten a good one. All 4 were equal or better prospects to the dude the Jets got at 4 when we got hawk. LT's don't come from nowhere in round 4, most of them are high first round picks...especially the great ones.

Who, Oher?

Jason Smith was/is hella raw; Andre had/has weight problems, Monroe had/has a bum knee, and Oher is an idiot.

There was no Joe Thomas in this draft. In a draft with a Joe Thomas caliber prospect, I'm not sure any of these guys would have been taken in the top 10.

[Partial]

Next year, Bobblehead. Next year.

But this year was the year that had 4 LT's that could be top 5 picks in most drafts. Even if we reached we would have gotten a good one. All 4 were equal or better prospects to the dude the Jets got at 4 when we got hawk. LT's don't come from nowhere in round 4, most of them are high first round picks...especially the great ones.

I completely disagree. I don't think any of the top 3 guys this year ( Monroe, Smith or Smith) touches Long, Thomas or Ferguson in terms of prospect-itude. Thomas was elite and the best of the bunch imo, but I know a lot of draftniks seemed to think that Fergie was still the better prospect (probably because he was black, but so damn skinny for an LT).