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  • #16
    Boss, a couple of issues. Sullivan the center has gotten bull rushed a couple of times and Loadholt has been beat with the speed rush as you alluded to. In addition, the backs haven't done a stellar job of picking things up.


    That having been said, they've made teams pay a few times and they've finished strong every game. I think having that huge offensive line (minus Sullivan) do wear teams out somewhat. That wasn't nearly as evident yesterday though.

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    • #17
      Strategy: Make Favre Beat you. Sure, he still can, but Minn domiantes if you leave AP alone.

      8 man, 9 man fronts, do whatever you have too, because we can't stop the run for shit. Force Favre to throw it. Leave our CB's and safties on a island one on one.

      Take that chance, because AP will destroy us otherwise.

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      • #18
        Refer to the Patriot Game Plan; lot of high percentage routes and mix in the run here and there. The Vikings will probably own our OL against the run.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Bretsky
          Refer to the Patriot Game Plan; lot of high percentage routes and mix in the run here and there. The Vikings will probably own our OL against the run.

          Aaron Rodgers has to bring this win home

          They (Patriots) essentially went 5 wide and just killed the Vikings (if you are referring to the game a couple years ago). Pass defense isn't nearly as bad as it was then for Minnesota.

          Couple reasons, pressure on the QB and better corner play.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Bretsky
            Refer to the Patriot Game Plan; lot of high percentage routes and mix in the run here and there. The Vikings will probably own our OL against the run.

            Aaron Rodgers has to bring this win home
            I don't think McCarthy is listening; he's gone ole Raider ball with A-Rod.
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            • #21
              Re: Strategy for GB vs MN

              Originally posted by CaptainKickass
              Let's please be a bit more descriptive/creative than the 'ol "gotta stop the run" and "get the running game going".
              Score more points then they do.

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              • #22
                Re: Strategy for GB vs MN

                Originally posted by Little Whiskey
                Originally posted by CaptainKickass
                Let's please be a bit more descriptive/creative than the 'ol "gotta stop the run" and "get the running game going".
                Score more points then they do.
                If they score 2 (very probable); we score 3!

                If they score 7; we score 8 (Crosby can't be trusted anyway).

                So there, Captain!
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                • #23
                  The Packers must have more swagger.

                  Remember, many of the short routes and TE stuff in the middle of the field have been circumscribed by protection issues. McGinn pointed this out again that with some of the protections, Rodgers was throwing to two and three man routes.

                  So its partially Raider ball, but its also inability to flood a zone with a three man route.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Rastak
                    Yea Michael, he had some REALLY nice throws. Perfect strike to Rice, Berrian dropped a perfect throw, but he also had more than a couple really poor throws. There were 3 or 4 throw I just couldn't see Jackson or Rosenfels making including the last TD. Never would have come to that if the Vikes hadn't whiffed on a block on the halftime FG attempt and then have the ball bounce right into a 9er's hands for a 10 point swing.
                    Looked like San Fran should have gotten an int return for TD before that. Not sure why it wasn't reviewed. The ball appeared to go off the receiver's arm and not the ground. Of course, if San Fran doesn't give up the punt return for a TD, they might win going away. You never know.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                      Originally posted by Rastak
                      Yea Michael, he had some REALLY nice throws. Perfect strike to Rice, Berrian dropped a perfect throw, but he also had more than a couple really poor throws. There were 3 or 4 throw I just couldn't see Jackson or Rosenfels making including the last TD. Never would have come to that if the Vikes hadn't whiffed on a block on the halftime FG attempt and then have the ball bounce right into a 9er's hands for a 10 point swing.
                      Looked like San Fran should have gotten an int return for TD before that. Not sure why it wasn't reviewed. The ball appeared to go off the receiver's arm and not the ground. Of course, if San Fran doesn't give up the punt return for a TD, they might win going away. You never know.

                      True enough on the possible pick six. I was there so didn't see the replays on the other play. Running a kickoff back for a TD in the fashion that it was done doesn't seem as flukey as a blocked kick AND a perfect bounce into someones hands resulting in a 10 point swing. I do see your point but it was the bounce of the ball that was the deciding factor on the last play of the half....that and a whiff block....(the real issue).

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Rastak
                        Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                        Originally posted by Rastak
                        Yea Michael, he had some REALLY nice throws. Perfect strike to Rice, Berrian dropped a perfect throw, but he also had more than a couple really poor throws. There were 3 or 4 throw I just couldn't see Jackson or Rosenfels making including the last TD. Never would have come to that if the Vikes hadn't whiffed on a block on the halftime FG attempt and then have the ball bounce right into a 9er's hands for a 10 point swing.
                        Looked like San Fran should have gotten an int return for TD before that. Not sure why it wasn't reviewed. The ball appeared to go off the receiver's arm and not the ground. Of course, if San Fran doesn't give up the punt return for a TD, they might win going away. You never know.

                        True enough on the possible pick six. I was there so didn't see the replays on the other play. Running a kickoff back for a TD in the fashion that it was done doesn't seem as flukey as a blocked kick AND a perfect bounce into someones hands resulting in a 10 point swing. I do see your point but it was the bounce of the ball that was the deciding factor on the last play of the half....that and a whiff block....(the real issue).
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                        • #27
                          Anyways, could McCarthy be baking up a sneaky offensive gameplan for Vikings? A la Belicheat? I think not but I hope!
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                          • #28
                            Re: Strategy for GB vs MN

                            Offense
                            1) Mix it up, don't run the ball exclusively on first down.
                            2) Use a few delayed handoffs to slow the pass rush.
                            3) Work the underneath routes with Finley/Lee.
                            4) For the first time in awhile, the backside cut-back was open last week, make sure Grant looks for it.

                            Defense
                            1) Contain, contain, contain...keep things up the gut.
                            2) Don't worry about Favre running and simply do whatever possible to get a push up the middle so he can't step up in the pocket. I am thinking Jenkins and with any luck Raji here). Getting someone up the middle is more important to rattling Favre than hitting him hard from the end. He often get's fired up from a hit, but he doesn't handle pressure up the middle as well.
                            3) Do whatever is necessary to take away the dump off to AP in the passing game.
                            4) Catch the 2-3 balls that are going to be there for INTs.

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                            • #29
                              Defense:

                              1. Blitz, Blitz Blitz. off the edges.
                              2. Ragdoll their interior line and bull rush their OTs
                              3. Mix up the secondary by playing some man coverage like last season
                              4. Contain AP as we've been able to do in the past
                              5. Play with the same fire in the belly as we saw in pre-season.
                              6. Achieve a ton of 3 and outs and stay off the field as long as possible
                              7. Rotate the big fellas to keep 'em fresh

                              STs

                              1. Stay in your lanes and make the tackles
                              2. Punt and kick better than the first 3 weeks
                              3. Play with passion, like you are the difference between winning and losing

                              Offense

                              1. Come out dinking and dunking.
                              2. Get the screen pass wworking again instead of focussing on the run game too heavily
                              3. Give Aaron the ball and let him make plays.
                              4. Make the correct adjustments at the line and fulfill your assignments.
                              5. Use 2 TE sets and 5 WR sets more often and give them the opportunity to win matchups

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                              • #30
                                Run the ball, short passes, stop run. If they can do these three things, they will win.

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