Bert's interview

[Deputy Nutz]

I can't believe Tyrone started another "Favre Topic". Wasn't it just last week that he scolded someone else for doing the same thing?

WOW what a double standard.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Rewrite history...LOL, wow is that weak.


The team fires it's superbowl winning coach, hires a dude with zero background then cuts half it's defense. People saw a mile away they were gonna go down hard. My coworker is a Bucs fan and he admitted this summer it was gonna be a long year.

Rewrite history.....that's some pretty funny stuff.

Except we aren't talking this year....what is weak is your ability to stay on topic. Nobody was talking about rewriting in that context.

Rewriting: yeah, the jet's scenario is just the way he paints it. You have now officially crossed over to the tin foil hat club.

Ok, we are indeed talking about different things. I am specifically talking about the Jets and this spring.

LAST year I'm sure he would have wanted to play for his buddies Bevel and Chilly first and foremost but Tampa would have been a good second choice. In addition, if coming off a 13-3 year where he felt he played some of his best football and was essentially told "the train has left the station without you", then obviously "I'll show you" would enter his mind. The best way to do that would be playing for Minnesota or even Tampa. It's simple human nature and many players do it.....even guys that are drafted later than they thought. "The Jaguars said they'd take me 10th and they didn't...now I go 15th. We play this year, I have that date on my calender...I'll show them what they passed up"

Happens all the time, it's not a big event. As for why it all went down the the retirement thing, I'm not saying Green Bay was even wrong in what they did. They felt it was time to move on this provided the perfect vehicle to do so.

Had he just showed up to OTA's, could they have dumped him? I don't think so. Then Teddy would have been dragged out of the building by a mob...(Not MOBB).

13-3: Agreed. I haven no problem with bert's human nature to stick it to the team. My issue with him is the prima dona act yearly retirement saga, the actual retirement, and then expecting to get his job back when he had retired. It is his right to play and unretire, it is our right to see thru the bs and that he wanted things all his way...no OTAs, no personal trainer, etc.

OTAs: Agreed again. Whether you believe it or not, i was called out many times on the jsonline (specifically on the marq board) for being a bert apologist. For me to pull a 180 degree turn is surprising to me.

When Bert decided to retire, i knew that it was a mistake. I knew that he would want to come back. Whether MM and TT went down as written and he declined, etc...isn't to me the point anymore. The packer management laid out what was necessary for him to be the QB. He chose to be petulant/insubordinate/whatever term you like.

I actually hoped that within 2 weeks to a month he would recant and get onboard. I knew he was emotionally spent...now, i'm not so sure how much of it was being spent as it was a desire to not be a team player.

And, the Jets thing. Retiring...and pretending that the Jets made a decision....yeah, they did..because he told them he was finished. they acted in good faith..and he fucked them. They got nothing for him. The only person i hold lower is goodell for allowing this blatant manipulating of loopholes. Bert and Goodell could teach wall st. a few tricks.

Bert has a right to play. No doubt. Packer fans have the right to note what a big fake he is. The interview just confirmed it.

And, i hope on the field of glory we beat the shit out of him. I hope he is carted off with an injury...nothing that will hurt him for life...but a separated shoulder, broken hand, maybe even a concussion....one that lingers for a year or so, but allows him to live the rest of his life enjoying his family, but knowing that he tried to stick it to us, but we stuck it to him.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I can't believe Tyrone started another "Favre Topic". Wasn't it just last week that he scolded someone else for doing the same thing?

WOW what a double standard.

And, i was scolded and told not to be a thread nazi. Since i didn't get your valuable support, i figured let's join them.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Rewrite history...LOL, wow is that weak.


The team fires it's superbowl winning coach, hires a dude with zero background then cuts half it's defense. People saw a mile away they were gonna go down hard. My coworker is a Bucs fan and he admitted this summer it was gonna be a long year.

Rewrite history.....that's some pretty funny stuff.

I always saw that SB team as Dungy's. Gruden just rode what was already there and has been going downhill since.

I lived there...and that was my opinion as well. But, i also can't take away the fact that Gruden did win it. Plenty of other coaches woulda blown what dungy put together.

You gotta give some credit to the jockey of a stud racehorse.

[MichiganPackerFan]

Rewrite history...LOL, wow is that weak.


The team fires it's superbowl winning coach, hires a dude with zero background then cuts half it's defense. People saw a mile away they were gonna go down hard. My coworker is a Bucs fan and he admitted this summer it was gonna be a long year.

Rewrite history.....that's some pretty funny stuff.

I always saw that SB team as Dungy's. Gruden just rode what was already there and has been going downhill since.

Completely agree.

[Zool]

We ought to at least be able to agree on this:

1. Favre told Peter King during an interview that a part of his motivation to come back was revenge.

2. On the conference call this week - the very first part - he tells Green Bay reporters that revenge never was a factor for him.

Those - both of those - are on record.

Yup. Can we not also agree that its 100% hilarious to watch Viking fans defend Favre and his antics now?

[mission]

I can't believe Tyrone started another "Favre Topic". Wasn't it just last week that he scolded someone else for doing the same thing?

WOW what a double standard.

"WOW!"








It's game week. Bit different methinks.

[sharpe1027]

I would believe it for sure that he asked for his release twice. He didn't want to go to the AFC, he was traded there and played there because he had to. He was due 12 mil and they were up against the cap. If I were him, I'd want my options to be open....actually all players want that, it's just some have leverage and some do not. There is no way with a new staff they want a 39yo QB making 12 mil back. I know Tannenbaum says differently but do you believe everything a GM says? Probably not.

You really think it was an AFC vs. NFC thing? Is that because of the designated hitter difference between the leagues?

Maybe the new staff didn't want Favre back, but they asked him to come back. De-Nile is not just a river in Egypt.

I figure you can approach this one of two ways, you can make up hypothetical situations to defend your new QB...or you can face the facts.

[Spaulding]

Rewrite history...LOL, wow is that weak.


The team fires it's superbowl winning coach, hires a dude with zero background then cuts half it's defense. People saw a mile away they were gonna go down hard. My coworker is a Bucs fan and he admitted this summer it was gonna be a long year.

Rewrite history.....that's some pretty funny stuff.

Except we aren't talking this year....what is weak is your ability to stay on topic. Nobody was talking about rewriting in that context.

Rewriting: yeah, the jet's scenario is just the way he paints it. You have now officially crossed over to the tin foil hat club.

Ok, we are indeed talking about different things. I am specifically talking about the Jets and this spring.

LAST year I'm sure he would have wanted to play for his buddies Bevel and Chilly first and foremost but Tampa would have been a good second choice. In addition, if coming off a 13-3 year where he felt he played some of his best football and was essentially told "the train has left the station without you", then obviously "I'll show you" would enter his mind. The best way to do that would be playing for Minnesota or even Tampa. It's simple human nature and many players do it.....even guys that are drafted later than they thought. "The Jaguars said they'd take me 10th and they didn't...now I go 15th. We play this year, I have that date on my calender...I'll show them what they passed up"

Happens all the time, it's not a big event. As for why it all went down the the retirement thing, I'm not saying Green Bay was even wrong in what they did. They felt it was time to move on this provided the perfect vehicle to do so.

Had he just showed up to OTA's, could they have dumped him? I don't think so. Then Teddy would have been dragged out of the building by a mob...(Not MOBB).

13-3: Agreed. I haven no problem with bert's human nature to stick it to the team. My issue with him is the prima dona act yearly retirement saga, the actual retirement, and then expecting to get his job back when he had retired. It is his right to play and unretire, it is our right to see thru the bs and that he wanted things all his way...no OTAs, no personal trainer, etc.

OTAs: Agreed again. Whether you believe it or not, i was called out many times on the jsonline (specifically on the marq board) for being a bert apologist. For me to pull a 180 degree turn is surprising to me.

When Bert decided to retire, i knew that it was a mistake. I knew that he would want to come back. Whether MM and TT went down as written and he declined, etc...isn't to me the point anymore. The packer management laid out what was necessary for him to be the QB. He chose to be petulant/insubordinate/whatever term you like.

I actually hoped that within 2 weeks to a month he would recant and get onboard. I knew he was emotionally spent...now, i'm not so sure how much of it was being spent as it was a desire to not be a team player.

And, the Jets thing. Retiring...and pretending that the Jets made a decision....yeah, they did..because he told them he was finished. they acted in good faith..and he fucked them. They got nothing for him. The only person i hold lower is goodell for allowing this blatant manipulating of loopholes. Bert and Goodell could teach wall st. a few tricks.

Bert has a right to play. No doubt. Packer fans have the right to note what a big fake he is. The interview just confirmed it.

And, i hope on the field of glory we beat the shit out of him. I hope he is carted off with an injury...nothing that will hurt him for life...but a separated shoulder, broken hand, maybe even a concussion....one that lingers for a year or so, but allows him to live the rest of his life enjoying his family, but knowing that he tried to stick it to us, but we stuck it to him.

Well said, key theme in all of the words out of Brett's mouth "shady as an elm tree"

[Pugger]

I don't pay much attention to what Favre says. I watch and see what he does. I truly believe Favre is playing where he has always wanted to since Sherman was fired (didn't he once say he'd retire if Sherman was canned?). Favre had it pretty cushy after Holmgren left for Seattle and when McCarthy came on board things changed. With MM's guidance Favre has his best season in eons and the team was at the doorstep of the Super Bowl. Why would he even contemplate retiring? Because he wasn't happy in GB. So he "retired." After that PC and some postering Favre was traded to NY. You can see his silly expression at the NY PC after the trade. He looked bemused by it all. After that season he still had one more year on his contract. He then tried the same stunt he tried to pull here and "retired". After the draft when NY picked a QB Favre asked for his release knowing full well NY would give it to him. NY has a habit of cutting QBs who still have value. Now the coast is clear and Favre is on a team with a HC like Sherman who will treat him like royalty and give him a pass on OTAs, mini camps, etc. I hope we make him rue the day he started all this nonsense and whip the Heidi Hairs once and for all!

[MadtownPacker]

We ought to at least be able to agree on this:

1. Favre told Peter King during an interview that a part of his motivation to come back was revenge.

2. On the conference call this week - the very first part - he tells Green Bay reporters that revenge never was a factor for him.

Those - both of those - are on record.

Yup. Can we not also agree that its 100% hilarious to watch Viking fans defend Favre and his antics now?

Just as hilarious as seeing those he once gave his all for tear down everything he ever did in G&G apart like it wasnt shit.

[MadtownPacker]

I always saw that SB team as Dungy's. Gruden just rode what was already there and has been going downhill since.

Agreed. Chuckys ass lucked out in a major way meeting his old offense with his borrowed killer defense in the Superbowl.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I always saw that SB team as Dungy's. Gruden just rode what was already there and has been going downhill since.

Agreed. Chuckys ass lucked out in a major way meeting his old offense with his borrowed killer defense in the Superbowl.

Or maybe he woulda taken his team, the raiders to the SB, instead of a lame coach like Callahan.

[MadtownPacker]

Or maybe he woulda taken his team, the raiders to the SB, instead of a lame coach like Callahan.

I think along those same lines. That is why so many raider fans where devasted by how it went down and played out.

[mngolf19]

We ought to at least be able to agree on this:

1. Favre told Peter King during an interview that a part of his motivation to come back was revenge.

2. On the conference call this week - the very first part - he tells Green Bay reporters that revenge never was a factor for him.

Those - both of those - are on record.

Yup. Can we not also agree that its 100% hilarious to watch Viking fans defend Favre and his antics now?

I'm not defending him. I'm just supporting:
A. My team's current starting QB who also seems to be helping them win.
B. A player that brings so much to the NFL due to his passion and style and skill. I'd support that on any team by the way. Hated seeing Montana retire.