Rodgers will benefit from Monday's grudge match

[Bossman641]

Brett has a history of getting overly juiced-up and blowing some big games. Maybe he's got one more blow job left in him.

I don't blame him for being a bit worn out. Look how many people on this site alone are all over his nuts.

....and look at how many people just can't get over him and let it go.

What does getting over him mean? Does that mean I have to wish him well and hope he leads the Vikings to a SB? Does that mean I should cheer for him?

I've come to terms he's on the Vikings, meaning I've come to terms with the fact that he is an opponent. I hate Cutler. I hated Culpepper. I hated Grossman....well actually I felt more sorry for him then anything. Seems to me I have gotten over Favre fine and hate him just like I do any of the other QB's. Only difference is I hate him more because I used to respect him and now don't.

I believe the ones who haven't gotten over Favre are those who still cheer him as if he were a PACKER and think he is owed something.

[GrnBay007]

Brett has a history of getting overly juiced-up and blowing some big games. Maybe he's got one more blow job left in him.

I don't blame him for being a bit worn out. Look how many people on this site alone are all over his nuts.

....and look at how many people just can't get over him and let it go.

What does getting over him mean? Does that mean I have to wish him well and hope he leads the Vikings to a SB? Does that mean I should cheer for him?

No. Doesn't mean cheering him on or hoping he goes to the SB. It is meant for those that are now trying to rewrite history and pretend he wasn't special while he played in GB. It's meant for those that wish injury upon him just because their feelings are hurt and they, for some reason, believe they should be able to dictate where he plays after GB decided to move on.

Just because some Packer fans don't hate him does not mean they are "all over his nuts".

[Bossman641]

Brett has a history of getting overly juiced-up and blowing some big games. Maybe he's got one more blow job left in him.

I don't blame him for being a bit worn out. Look how many people on this site alone are all over his nuts.

....and look at how many people just can't get over him and let it go.

What does getting over him mean? Does that mean I have to wish him well and hope he leads the Vikings to a SB? Does that mean I should cheer for him?

No. Doesn't mean cheering him on or hoping he goes to the SB. It is meant for those that are now trying to rewrite history and pretend he wasn't special while he played in GB. It's meant for those that wish injury upon him just because their feelings are hurt and they, for some reason, believe they should be able to dictate where he plays after GB decided to move on.

Just because some Packer fans don't hate him does not mean they are "all over his nuts".

You may have me confused with someone else. I haven't said anything to diminish his accomplishments when he was with the Packers. I am able to differentiate between who he was and who he is though. I don't believe he is owed any preferential treatment because he used to be the Packers QB.

And I don't hope he gets injured or anything, I just hope that the defense beats the shit out of him and he wakes up Tuesday morning in a ton of pain.

And you are right, not all Favre fans are on his nuts. You also can't disagree that there are some who are though. It makes me sick when I see posters (here or elsewhere) saying how they have switched allegiances based on Favre leaving, or hope the Packers struggle because they deserve it for letting Favre go.

[GrnBay007]

You may have me confused with someone else.

No, I said it was meant for those that.....
Just a general statement.

[pbmax]

I think we should just put Zool's Waaaaaaahmbulance graphic up instead of a picture of Lambeau. The internet is softening us up.

[gex]

Brett has a history of getting overly juiced-up and blowing some big games. Maybe he's got one more blow job left in him.

I don't blame him for being a bit worn out. Look how many people on this site alone are all over his nuts.

....and look at how many people just can't get over him and let it go.

What does getting over him mean? Does that mean I have to wish him well and hope he leads the Vikings to a SB? Does that mean I should cheer for him?

No. Doesn't mean cheering him on or hoping he goes to the SB. It is meant for those that are now trying to rewrite history and pretend he wasn't special while he played in GB. It's meant for those that wish injury upon him just because their feelings are hurt and they, for some reason, believe they should be able to dictate where he plays after GB decided to move on.

Just because some Packer fans don't hate him does not mean they are "all over his nuts".

You may have me confused with someone else. I haven't said anything to diminish his accomplishments when he was with the Packers. I am able to differentiate between who he was and who he is though. I don't believe he is owed any preferential treatment because he used to be the Packers QB.

And I don't hope he gets injured or anything, I just hope that the defense beats the shit out of him and he wakes up Tuesday morning in a ton of pain.

And you are right, not all Favre fans are on his nuts. You also can't disagree that there are some who are though. It makes me sick when I see posters (here or elsewhere) saying how they have switched allegiances based on Favre leaving, or hope the Packers struggle because they deserve it for letting Favre go.

Karma's a bitch, eh?

[th87]

Brett has a history of getting overly juiced-up and blowing some big games. Maybe he's got one more blow job left in him.

I don't blame him for being a bit worn out. Look how many people on this site alone are all over his nuts.

....and look at how many people just can't get over him and let it go.

What does getting over him mean? Does that mean I have to wish him well and hope he leads the Vikings to a SB? Does that mean I should cheer for him?

No. Doesn't mean cheering him on or hoping he goes to the SB. It is meant for those that are now trying to rewrite history and pretend he wasn't special while he played in GB. It's meant for those that wish injury upon him just because their feelings are hurt and they, for some reason, believe they should be able to dictate where he plays after GB decided to move on.

Just because some Packer fans don't hate him does not mean they are "all over his nuts".

You may have me confused with someone else. I haven't said anything to diminish his accomplishments when he was with the Packers. I am able to differentiate between who he was and who he is though. I don't believe he is owed any preferential treatment because he used to be the Packers QB.

And I don't hope he gets injured or anything, I just hope that the defense beats the shit out of him and he wakes up Tuesday morning in a ton of pain.

And you are right, not all Favre fans are on his nuts. You also can't disagree that there are some who are though. It makes me sick when I see posters (here or elsewhere) saying how they have switched allegiances based on Favre leaving, or hope the Packers struggle because they deserve it for letting Favre go.

Karma's a bitch, eh?

Yes, because a poster's karma can somehow have any bearing on Rodgers' sack totals.

Though you do seem happy Rodgers got hit. I'm sorry you waste so much time on an opposing team's forum, such as this one.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I don't get the Karma comment at all Gex. Everything you bolded is what is suppose to happen in football.

If i found out a vikes fan was wishing that would happen to Rodgers or any other packer, i would say..."sounds like a good, clean, physical game".

Stated goal of most defenses is to get to the QB.

We are talking about football, right? Not baseball.

[swede]

You a Twins fan, Gex?

[Fritz]

I think all these experiences are helping A-rod. He will get better, I think.

The o-line is a disappointment. The biggest one in Thompson's five years, I think. This is, after all, his line, and while it's still a young line outside Clifton, Colledge and Spitz are fourth year guys, Sitton is a second year guy and Barbe is a third.

They're not grizzled vets, but they ain't rooks any more. And it's not a new system.

[swede]

I think all these experiences are helping A-rod. He will get better, I think.

The o-line is a disappointment. The biggest one in Thompson's five years, I think. This is, after all, his line, and while it's still a young line outside Clifton, Colledge and Spitz are fourth year guys, Sitton is a second year guy and Barbe is a third.

They're not grizzled vets, but they ain't rooks any more. And it's not a new system.

Succinctly so.

In the range of posters that are part of the Optimistic Realists club, I will admit to being among the most faithful supporters of TT. I like his lack of style and find it kind of goofily charming. I like the football framework he brought to Green Bay. That framework boils down to this: draft smart, manage the cap well, hang on to your best players, look for value in free agency, build a program committed to long-term success.

The whole fricking thing falls apart if the guys we've drafted are not performing on the field, and our guys--especially the offensive line--are not.

Now the question is whether or not our offensive line stinks on ice because they're just not that good or because our coaching sucks. Whatever the answer to that is TT will bear ultimate responsibility. Fix the drafting or fix the coaching.

And I hope that Murphy is beginning to read "How to Hire NFL GM's for Dummies" just in case he needs to go that way in a year or two.

P.S. IMO, in the event of a TT firing somewhere in the next 2-14 months, the only poster on this board I can think of who can honestly say, "I told you so" about TT is Bretsky. He has never been a hater, just a loud doubter about the team's direction under TT. The haters think that Wahle and Rivera should still be our tackles and that Brett didn't engineer his own way to Minnesota.

[Sparkey]

It is a great article, and I think it applies even more so, after Monday nights game. The fact Rodgers took the pounding (regardless of maybe holding the ball a bit too long) and kept getting up for more.

The parallels with the game Young played against Montana were earily similar. Especially the sacks he took and how jacked up the Chiefs D was that game. Very similar to how jacked up the Minny D (particularly Allen) was.

I honestly believe that as Rodgers gains more experience, he will start to see his secondary options better and also realize that every play does not have to be a game changer. As this happens, the Pack offense will really become a dominant force.

[Scott Campbell]

I think all these experiences are helping A-rod. He will get better, I think.

The o-line is a disappointment. The biggest one in Thompson's five years, I think. This is, after all, his line, and while it's still a young line outside Clifton, Colledge and Spitz are fourth year guys, Sitton is a second year guy and Barbe is a third.

They're not grizzled vets, but they ain't rooks any more. And it's not a new system.

Succinctly so.

In the range of posters that are part of the Optimistic Realists club, I will admit to being among the most faithful supporters of TT. I like his lack of style and find it kind of goofily charming. I like the football framework he brought to Green Bay. That framework boils down to this: draft smart, manage the cap well, hang on to your best players, look for value in free agency, build a program committed to long-term success.

The whole fricking thing falls apart if the guys we've drafted are not performing on the field, and our guys--especially the offensive line--are not.

Now the question is whether or not our offensive line stinks on ice because they're just not that good or because our coaching sucks. Whatever the answer to that is TT will bear ultimate responsibility. Fix the drafting or fix the coaching.

And I hope that Murphy is beginning to read "How to Hire NFL GM's for Dummies" just in case he needs to go that way in a year or two.

P.S. IMO, in the event of a TT firing somewhere in the next 2-14 months, the only poster on this board I can think of who can honestly say, "I told you so" about TT is Bretsky. He has never been a hater, just a loud doubter about the team's direction under TT. The haters think that Wahle and Rivera should still be our tackles and that Brett didn't engineer his own way to Minnesota.

Really good post. I agree with you about TT's methods, and support them. But you still have to bet on the right players and coaching staff, and that's where even a solid plan can come apart. If the Packers have to part ways with Ted I don't think it will be because he was horrible like Sherman. It'll be because he's simply not good enough.

But at 2-2, we may be getting ahead of ourselves.

[Zool]

I think we should just put Zool's Waaaaaaahmbulance graphic up instead of a picture of Lambeau. The internet is softening us up.

Who am I to say no to a specific request. Looks like the waaaambulance has been updated to 80's style special effects.

[Deputy Nutz]

I think all these experiences are helping A-rod. He will get better, I think.

The o-line is a disappointment. The biggest one in Thompson's five years, I think. This is, after all, his line, and while it's still a young line outside Clifton, Colledge and Spitz are fourth year guys, Sitton is a second year guy and Barbe is a third.

They're not grizzled vets, but they ain't rooks any more. And it's not a new system.

Succinctly so.

In the range of posters that are part of the Optimistic Realists club, I will admit to being among the most faithful supporters of TT. I like his lack of style and find it kind of goofily charming. I like the football framework he brought to Green Bay. That framework boils down to this: draft smart, manage the cap well, hang on to your best players, look for value in free agency, build a program committed to long-term success.

The whole fricking thing falls apart if the guys we've drafted are not performing on the field, and our guys--especially the offensive line--are not.

Now the question is whether or not our offensive line stinks on ice because they're just not that good or because our coaching sucks. Whatever the answer to that is TT will bear ultimate responsibility. Fix the drafting or fix the coaching.

And I hope that Murphy is beginning to read "How to Hire NFL GM's for Dummies" just in case he needs to go that way in a year or two.

P.S. IMO, in the event of a TT firing somewhere in the next 2-14 months, the only poster on this board I can think of who can honestly say, "I told you so" about TT is Bretsky. He has never been a hater, just a loud doubter about the team's direction under TT. The haters think that Wahle and Rivera should still be our tackles and that Brett didn't engineer his own way to Minnesota.

Really good post. I agree with you about TT's methods, and support them. But you still have to bet on the right players and coaching staff, and that's where even a solid plan can come apart. If the Packers have to part ways with Ted I don't think it will be because he was horrible like Sherman. It'll be because he's simply not good enough.

But at 2-2, we may be getting ahead of ourselves.

Exactly, I couldn't sit here and spit fire and brimstone at Ted Tampon if his shit was working. According to some his organization and coaching staff squeezed the last bit of juice out of an aging QB and got to the NFC Championship by going 13-3 in his only appearance in the playoffs.

Now I understand the backlash of the Favre Scandle and it's effect on the team last year. If you give him a pass on that season that is his second free pass because his first year as GM when the team went 4-12 is not considered his fault either(by some). So out of the four years as GM he is totally responsible for the 8-8 season and the 13-3 season. As long as Tampon doesn't have to take credit for any of the lossing seasons his job should be safe.

Going back to his style in managing a roster and a team you have to like tat he relies on building through the draft with minimal free agents. Unfortunately he has to be right more times than he is wrong. So far the only real hits he has had in the draft have been Collins, Rodgers, and Jennings.

I like Hawk but he hasn't been the sure fire pro many have expected, he is solid, but he isn't a playmaker at this point, and probably never will be. Justin Harrell. Sad. Murphy? Sad in another way, but no benefit to the team. Brandon Jackson, all that potential is soon to be busting through. What about Colledge? He was begining to be a pretty good left guard along with Jason Spitz, but soon this organization is going to have to make up their mind about where these two are going to play full time. It has taken them almost 4 years to develop into decent starters. Now they are being messed with again with constant position switches.

Anyways, the coaching staff is also a big question mark 4 seasons in. Is McCarthy the man to lead this team back to the promised land? I can't answer that question without answering "no" right now, maybe some of you can shed some light on why he is the right man to get this team back to the playoffs, deep into the playoffs, and a super bowl appearance. I just don't see it as of yet, and most coaches 4 years in don't get a whole lot more chances.

We will see.