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Williams gets picked on nearly as much if not more than Al Harris. This is a tough league to play corner in, most corners will get picked on or get the yellow thrown at him. That is just the business they are in.Originally posted by bobbleheadOK, so it was sarcasm...I thought you were sharper than that, but I never can tell for sure when reading instead of seeing someone say Al sucks.Originally posted by Deputy NutzThis was a really fun game, tomorrow I will pick another player to start a totally BS debate on.
Al Harris is one of the last players that the Packers need to worry about during the bye week.
Although it seems that when ever Al gets beat deep he is throwing his hands in the air wondering what happened to his deep zone coverage. Either the safeties have been just that stupid over the years or Al fucks up his zone responsibilities when receivers run deep on him.
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Oh, I've seen every player fuck up on D at times...Harris' play in that dallas game 2 years back was abysmal, and that isn't even considering his play against TO. On one play in that game he stood at the LOS while the reciever sat wide open 10 yards behind him...MM later confirmed that the LOS wasn't a zone we usually cover.Originally posted by Deputy NutzWilliams gets picked on nearly as much if not more than Al Harris. This is a tough league to play corner in, most corners will get picked on or get the yellow thrown at him. That is just the business they are in.Originally posted by bobbleheadOK, so it was sarcasm...I thought you were sharper than that, but I never can tell for sure when reading instead of seeing someone say Al sucks.Originally posted by Deputy NutzThis was a really fun game, tomorrow I will pick another player to start a totally BS debate on.
Al Harris is one of the last players that the Packers need to worry about during the bye week.
Although it seems that when ever Al gets beat deep he is throwing his hands in the air wondering what happened to his deep zone coverage. Either the safeties have been just that stupid over the years or Al fucks up his zone responsibilities when receivers run deep on him.
That being said, I would say if you combing PI penalties and completions that Woodson has been more "picked on" than Harris this season. He gets more picks to offset it, but again, its the big play vs. consistency argument. Both are studs, both fuck up at times, and TWill isn't quite in their category yet....hoping he gets there though.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Hey I think he's still got it, but for how much longer? We don't owe him anything and if we could get a good return for a diminishing talent, TT should pull the trigger and stock up on some more draft picks and maybe a player.Originally posted by Bossman641You're delusionalOriginally posted by gexI would have to agree, he is well into his 30's and his value is still high. We could probably get a 2nd and maybe a lineman for him.Originally posted by Deputy NutzYep, get what you can for him a 6th or hopefully a 5th.Originally posted by MJZiggyYou want to ship off one of the best corners in the league while he's still performing at a high level and while the rest of the pass defense is struggling. There's an idea.Baah
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You missed the point. There is a 0 % chance you get a 2nd round pick and lineman for Harris. I doubt you could get much more than a 4th rounder.Originally posted by gexHey I think he's still got it, but for how much longer? We don't owe him anything and if we could get a good return for a diminishing talent, TT should pull the trigger and stock up on some more draft picks and maybe a player.Originally posted by Bossman641You're delusionalOriginally posted by gexI would have to agree, he is well into his 30's and his value is still high. We could probably get a 2nd and maybe a lineman for him.Originally posted by Deputy NutzYep, get what you can for him a 6th or hopefully a 5th.Originally posted by MJZiggyYou want to ship off one of the best corners in the league while he's still performing at a high level and while the rest of the pass defense is struggling. There's an idea.Go PACK
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Don't know that I agree with that, he looks basically done to me. I don't think he'll be back next year.Originally posted by Bossman641I dunno. I won't pretend to know what Harris would be worth, just know it's not a second. Whatever you would get for him is worth way less than what he means to the team.Originally posted by PartialI highly doubt you're getting more than a 7th for Al. Isn't he 35?
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You only think that because he's 34. You don't go from one of the best in the business to done in one game.Originally posted by PartialDon't know that I agree with that, he looks basically done to me. I don't think he'll be back next year.Originally posted by Bossman641I dunno. I won't pretend to know what Harris would be worth, just know it's not a second. Whatever you would get for him is worth way less than what he means to the team.Originally posted by PartialI highly doubt you're getting more than a 7th for Al. Isn't he 35?"Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings
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Al IMO looks much worse because he actually understands the defense and the morons behind him playing him at safety do not up to this point. I think he's still doing a decent job out there. Put Martin behind anybody and the CB will look like junk right now.....A. Smith anyone ?TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Bretsky remove your quote. It is now defunctOriginally posted by BretskyAl IMO looks much worse because he actually understands the defense and the morons behind him playing him at safety do not up to this point. I think he's still doing a decent job out there. Put Martin behind anybody and the CB will look like junk right now.....A. Smith anyone ?
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